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Still no space grey? Man, us SG users are getting screwed with the Apple Watch.
That's kinda true. No anodized gold, or rose gold; no aluminum period. There's also no space black. AND these are the polished stainless finish only, so they won't even match the silver aluminum case.

What's weird is the stainless link band is brushed stainless, not polished like the case. I didn't realize this until I tried it on an realized the link band looked better with the silver Sport than it did with the stainless because of that. Really odd. It also appears that Apple doesn't intend to offer any aluminum lugs, only bands with built-in lugs like the Leather Loop and rubber Sport bands -- so much for dressing it up a bit. I suppose that the polished lugs could be brushed to match the silver Sport, but not much a person could do about the color.
 
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Anything to shift that stagnant Apple Watch stock, eh. I have never see the "point" of wearables (and I hear the distant rumbling that is the stampede of annoyed Apple apologists rushing towards this comment, determined to shout me down and "prove" otherwise). My clothes are wearable, that's all that's careable.

Not at all sorry when I say that I think this is a very much flopped product category. It's a solution looking for a problem, whereas the iPhone was very much an answer to LOTS of problems needing iPhone to solve them, which it then did, and continues to do so.
 
That's kinda true. No anodized gold, or rose gold; no aluminum period. There's also no space black. AND these are the polished stainless finish only, so they won't even match the silver aluminum case.

What's weird is the stainless link band is brushed stainless, not polished like the case. I didn't realize this until I tried it on an realized the link band looked better with the silver Sport than it did with the stainless because of that. Really odd. It also appears that Apple doesn't intend to offer any aluminum lugs, only bands with built-in lugs like the Leather Loop and rubber Sport bands -- so much for dressing it up a bit. I suppose that the polished lugs could be brushed to match the silver Sport, but not much a person could do about the color.

Apple doesn't care about black watches.
 
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It pretty much is, torx is the 'proper' spec for that, pentalobe is basically apples way of making it harder for people to poke whilst still keeping the advantages of torx.

Torx is certainly the industry standard, but when you are dealing with screw heads under a millimeter in diameter, the sharper angles of the Torx design, i would imagine, cause a much greater instance of shearing than the rounded corners of a pentalobe. This, coupled with a 5 pointed shape versus the 6 of a Torx, indicate that there was at least a little bit of thought put into its design in relation to strength. I'm not saying that Apple didn't also have in mind the prevention of consumers from opening up their devices, but as I said before, the pentalobe screwdriver, like any other "security" fasteners', is available to anyone that needs one.
 
If you look at the pictures of the lugs being sold by the Click team in the thread about them you'll immediately stop feeling bad, the adapters they are shipping are truly awful.

Having seen the final product, I can say you are completely incorrect. The last post on MacRumors was made months before the product was finalized, and the adapters they are shipping are very high quality.
 
Come on apple, you have a couple of black models, lugs for those would be nice.

For the DIY band market? It really seems like people are missing the boat on this article. This isn't for the regular customer... Or are we missing something?

It's just an accessory. You buy the band from anywhere you want and attach it to the lug. A regular customer should be able to change bands in my opinion

Imagine how much apple could sell an apple branded Pentalobe1.1 screwdriver :)
 
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sell to the consumer at ~$20 each. These are actually pretty decent prices.
Mmmh - I don't consider $20 a "decent price" for something that probably costs less than $1 in production. Even with Apple's usual margin standards in mind this is far from being "decent" imo.
 
It's just an accessory. You buy the band from anywhere you want and attach it to the lug. A regular customer should be able to change bands in my opinion

Imagine how much apple could sell an apple branded Pentalobe1.1 screwdriver :)

Somewhere in the definition of nickel and dimeing is asking people to buy a watch, a watch band, and a way to attach the watch band to the watch.
 
Cool. Any pics?

I'm getting some more colors in and some more lugs (from eBay).
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That's super cool, hahaha, I always think about getting one of those paracord bracelets, but I know I'd unravel it and _never_ get it back together :D

They're actually not that hard to make. Watch some youtube videos and you're good to go.
 
Somewhere in the definition of nickel and dimeing is asking people to buy a watch, a watch band, and a way to attach the watch band to the watch.

I guess I have owned watched as a hobby too long, the average punter would not do this
 
Anything to shift that stagnant Apple Watch stock, eh. I have never see the "point" of wearables (and I hear the distant rumbling that is the stampede of annoyed Apple apologists rushing towards this comment, determined to shout me down and "prove" otherwise). My clothes are wearable, that's all that's careable.

Not at all sorry when I say that I think this is a very much flopped product category. It's a solution looking for a problem, whereas the iPhone was very much an answer to LOTS of problems needing iPhone to solve them, which it then did, and continues to do so.

Are you suggesting that Apple has a surplus of watches and/or bands and is stripping the lugs from them in order to feed the demand for accessory/replacement bands for watches that you believe nobody has purchased?

Perhaps you're suggesting Apple is attempting to resurrect a flopped product by providing greater variety in bands... That may be, but it's no surprise, because Apple's been selling the fashion/variety angle from Day One. One may assert Apple's doing this out of desperation, another could assert Apple's doing this in response to success and consumer demand. I'm not sure either assertion can be proved at this date and time.

But if people actually do buy additional/replacement bands, it's possible (I'd say very possible) that they do find their watches useful, fashionable, or both. Otherwise, they'd leave them in their dresser drawers (or peddle them on Craig's List) in favor of fashion-only items, traditional timepieces, or nothing at all.

Of course, there's the Emperor's New Clothes Proposition. Which is to say, there's one wise boy who sees the truth, the rest of the kingdom is delusional, and the tailors are charlatans. That would mean all who buy these lugs will either succeed thanks to that mass delusion, or will be left holding the bag when the public finally sees the light. I guess only time will tell.

Your overall argument is that the watch fails because it's not a practical solution to a problem. The bands, however, do not address that aspect of the product. History has taught us that fashion is often anything but practical, so is there a point to inserting practicality into this particular thread? Software can ultimately address practicality - the not-yet-invented killer app, perhaps.

In the absence of hard data, anyone can spin this whatever way they wish. If you wish, you can consider someone who owns and enjoys their watch (and has found it useful) to be an "annoyed Apple apologist." Annoyed Apple apologists might mumble, "troll." But such is the polarized nature of Internet discourse.
 
Are you suggesting that Apple has a surplus of watches and/or bands and is stripping the lugs from them in order to feed the demand for accessory/replacement bands for watches that you believe nobody has purchased?

Perhaps you're suggesting Apple is attempting to resurrect a flopped product by providing greater variety in bands... That may be, but it's no surprise, because Apple's been selling the fashion/variety angle from Day One. One may assert Apple's doing this out of desperation, another could assert Apple's doing this in response to success and consumer demand. I'm not sure either assertion can be proved at this date and time.

But if people actually do buy additional/replacement bands, it's possible (I'd say very possible) that they do find their watches useful, fashionable, or both. Otherwise, they'd leave them in their dresser drawers (or peddle them on Craig's List) in favor of fashion-only items, traditional timepieces, or nothing at all.

Of course, there's the Emperor's New Clothes Proposition. Which is to say, there's one wise boy who sees the truth, the rest of the kingdom is delusional, and the tailors are charlatans. That would mean all who buy these lugs will either succeed thanks to that mass delusion, or will be left holding the bag when the public finally sees the light. I guess only time will tell.

Your overall argument is that the watch fails because it's not a practical solution to a problem. The bands, however, do not address that aspect of the product. History has taught us that fashion is often anything but practical, so is there a point to inserting practicality into this particular thread? Software can ultimately address practicality - the not-yet-invented killer app, perhaps.

In the absence of hard data, anyone can spin this whatever way they wish. If you wish, you can consider someone who owns and enjoys their watch (and has found it useful) to be an "annoyed Apple apologist." Annoyed Apple apologists might mumble, "troll." But such is the polarized nature of Internet discourse.

Erm, you're over-analysing it - I'm saying Apple watch is pointless and crap. Simple as.
 
They've been available since October.

Thanks for your reply. I only wanted to purchase one pair.

Could you provide a link to where you can buy just one please

Any idea if you can get a space grey colour yet? Unless someone knows of a really good alternative (black lug).

thanks
 
Thanks for your reply. I only wanted to purchase one pair.

Could you provide a link to where you can buy just one please

Any idea if you can get a space grey colour yet? Unless someone knows of a really good alternative (black lug).

thanks

You can't buy one. They come in 25 or 200. These are intended for companies making third party bands, not for sale directly to consumers.
 
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You can't buy one. They come in 25 or 200. These are intended for companies making third party bands, not for sale directly to consumers.

Okay I see.
I would have thought some enterprising entrepreneur would have bought say 25 and put a mark up and sold them on ebay by now.

Then with a good profit bought 200.

cheers
 
Okay I see.
I would have thought some enterprising entrepreneur would have bought say 25 and put a mark up and sold them on ebay by now.

Then with a good profit bought 200.

cheers

They would need to sell the original 25 for $86 each to generate enough profit to pay for a batch of 200. :D
 
They would need to sell the original 25 for $86 each to generate enough profit to pay for a batch of 200. :D

thanks for your reply.

Yes perhaps keep it to the 25 level for a while then!
 

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For the DIY band market? It really seems like people are missing the boat on this article. This isn't for the regular customer... Or are we missing something?

Nah you're right it's for the DIY band retail market i.e. Etsy sorts. Which is very cool.
 
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