Apple Now Selling Refurbished 13-Inch MacBook Pro With M2

[Apples Apples Everywhere]

Employers aren't offering Macs. haha. You'll get offered an HP with an i5 processor. It'll be heavy, have short battery life, and be loaded with malware (like Antivirus). You'll get an "upgrade" every 6 years. Enjoy!

Haha. Exactly. Employees be damned. However employers DO offer Macs. But when they do, some of them give you the crappiest piece of crap that says Pro. Apple fans here (I am a fan, btw) misinterpret that to mean the M2 Pro 13 is crap. I'm not saying the M2 Pro 13 is crap. Its the business mentality that I speak of.

Myself I would never get an M2 Pro 13 though, no offense to those who would.

 

[Scoob Redux]

Haha. Exactly. Employees be damned. However employers DO offer Macs. But when they do, some of them give you the crappiest piece of crap that says Pro. Apple fans here (I am a fan, btw) misinterpret that to mean the M2 Pro 13 is crap. I'm not saying the M2 Pro 13 is crap. Its the business mentality that I speak of.

Myself I would never get an M2 Pro 13 though, no offense to those who would.

Yes, it was a bit of hyperbole to say that NO employers offer Macs, some do (in fact, Apple has seen some gains in their enterprise market penetration from 17% pre-pandemic to above 20% last year. So, yes, some employers do offer them. I agree that the 13" MacBook Pro is not something I would be interested in at all.

 

[johanhb]

I just bought the MBP 13" M2 16 Ram today, simply because the tasks I need it to do was too much for the new MBA without a fan/cooler to handle it. Yet after reading your comments, I can't let go the feeling of having bought something which reminds me way too much of a previously outdated MBP at.

How certain are you that Apple will have a new release in October which could put this release of MBP off the shelves?
I'm not a fan of the touch bar which they've kept and also want the magsafe charger instead, so if I only have to wait for a month for an updated MBP 13" with M2 and new design, I will return my MBP tmrrow.

Do you have any recommendations in regards to this issue? Ty in advance.

 

[Marathonianbull]

People can do far worse than an M2 MacBook Pro, they are fine machines.

Just bought one of these little M2 Macbook Pro 13”, all specced out, in spite of my M1 Pro 16" and instead of the new M2 Air : simply amazing beast, a crisp and vivid LCD, a sturdy design; without the frankly useless MagSafe, but with the smart and useful Touch Bar (a simple-cable-for-careless-people vs a cool, handy technology LOL!) Couldn’t be happier!!!

 

[Edgecrusherr]

Once the 14” Pros came out the 13” Pro use case became much less compelling. While the fanless Airs clearly throttle under extended loads, those who push the Macs to the limit are more inclined to get the 14” with the better screen and more powerful processors. Apple seems to recognized as much, pricing the 13” Pro the same as the Air similarly equipped. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see the 13” Pro discontinued or replaced next year.

Yeah, the 13" is pretty much a dead end. I can't see it being around much longer. Apple has done this in the past a few time, introduced a new major redesign, but kept at least one of the older designs around for a year or 2—for cheaper. but overall a lesser value.

It still has the Touch Bar as well, which Apple went out of their to back peddle on. As much as I personally love the Touch Bar for customizing system controls, it's a major point of failure on a lot of these machines, and the majority of people seem to hate it.

 

[Marathonianbull]

Everything from Apple ends up in the refurbished bin (or in the huge eBay/Kijiji garbage basket) sooner or later, like the first two flawed 16” M1 Pro MBPs which I had bought and quickly returned last December. My new 13” M2 MBP, on the other hand, isn’t going anywhere soon: it is a speed demon, and its TB is truly useful especially if boosted with the versatile BetterTouchTool app. No dead end here!

 

[ArkSingularity]

Yeah, the 13" is pretty much a dead end. I can't see it being around much longer. Apple has done this in the past a few time, introduced a new major redesign, but kept at least one of the older designs around for a year or 2—for cheaper. but overall a lesser value.

It still has the Touch Bar as well, which Apple went out of their to back peddle on. As much as I personally love the Touch Bar for customizing system controls, it's a major point of failure on a lot of these machines, and the majority of people seem to hate it.

You know, I agree with you completely. And you're absolutely right, I think it is a dead end for them and it likely won't be in their lineup for too much longer. But as much as that's the case (and as much as the 14" machines are just better "pro" machines all around), I'm going to miss the 13". It's pretty much the perfect laptop for me.

It's basically just a Macbook Air with a fan at this point, but that's pretty much exactly what I need. The M1 SOC is fast enough for me and I love the battery life (and the size) of the 13", but I sometimes run sustained workloads and want predictable performance out of it. The 13" Pro fits my use case better than anything else in their lineup.

 

[Queen6]

I see many M1's deployed in a mission critical environment. The only specced out MacBook Pro, is an M1 Max with 64 GBs of RAM, 2 TB of storage for the art department. I have Viola Davis moment when I saw the order.

Simple answer is the 13" MBP is well tried & proven, has enormous battery life and has a high level of portability. Companies are generally very conservative and the current 14" & 16" MBP's are a Gen 1 product.

While some decry the 13" MBP shouldn't exist it remains to be a very capable Mac in a small form factor. I own one myself, I don't care for the port solution or the TouchBar. That said as a package; performance - battery longevity - portability the 13" MBP is a very difficult machine to beat out.

If battery life is a prime factor the 13" MBP is the best option as it has the longest runtime. The 14" has a lot to offer but it's likely to have around only half the runtime of the 13" in use.

13" M1 MBP detailed review


14" M1 MBP detailed review

The numbers speak for themselves, these guys go into a lot of detail with no bias. I easily see these numbers and more on my M1 13" MBP likely as I don't push the brightness more than I need.

I like the 14" MBP a lot as it ticks a lot of boxes and then some, however I don't want to compromise on battery life. If the 14" MBP could make it to 15+ hours, I'd likely pull the trigger. I'll wait and see what M3 delivers...

Q-6

 

[Queen6]

some of us actually like the Touch Bar too! I got my M1 MBP on purpose just so I could keep using the Touch Bar. It's great and I don't understand all the hate.

I don't hate the TouchBar, however I'm interferent towards it. I think if you touch type, it can become a distraction. Personally, I rarely if ever use the TouchBar as my focus is on the display so I set my MBP up accordingly.

Apple's failure was to remove the physical "F" keys, had the TouchBar been more of an addition to the top row of keys I think it would have been far more widely accepted.

Q-6

 

[ArkSingularity]

Simple answer is the 13" MBP is well tried & proven, has enormous battery life and has a high level of portability. Companies are generally very conservative and the current 14" & 16" MBP's are a Gen 1 product.

While some decry the 13" MBP shouldn't exist it remains to be a very capable Mac in a small form factor. I own one myself, I don't care for the port solution or the TouchBar. That said as a package; performance - battery longevity - portability the 13" MBP is a very difficult machine to beat.

If battery life is a prime factor the 13" MBP is the best option as it has the longest runtime. The 14" has a lot to offer but it's likely to have around only half the runtime of the 13" in use.

13" M1 MBP detailed review


14" M1 MBP detailed review

The numbers speak for themselves, these guys go into a lot of detail with no bias. I easily see these numbers and more on my M1 13" MBP likely as I don't push the brightness more than I need.

I like the 14" MBP a lot as it ticks a lot of boxes and then some, however I don't want to compromise on battery life. If the 14" MBP could make it to 15+ hours, I'd likely pull the trigger. I'll wait and see what M3 delivers...

Q-6

Very well said!

This right here was one of the biggest reasons I didn't feel like the 14" Pro was right for me. I travel a lot, and the insanely good battery life on the 13" Pro (and the ability to use pretty much any random tiny USB-C charger that I throw in the bag) is very convenient.

 

[Queen6]

Very well said!

This right here was one of the biggest reasons I didn't feel like the 14" Pro was right for me. I travel a lot, and the insanely good battery life on the 13" Pro (and the ability to use pretty much any random tiny USB-C charger that I throw in the bag) is very convenient.

Should be able to charge the 14"/16" MBP over USB C. 13" MBP is a business travellers dream come true, if careful can get two days out of a single charge.

14" MBP have to take a significant hit in battery life, 16" is too big for the majority of hotel room safes. I've always been very much against the 2016 MBP redesign, but the moment I tried the 13" M1 MBP I knew I would get one as the performance is spectacular for the class as is battery life. I'd like a 14" but...

Q-6

 

[ArkSingularity]

Should be able to charge the 14"/16" MBP over USB C. 13" MBP is a business travellers dream come true, if careful can get two days out of a single charge.

14" MBP have to take a significant hit in battery life, 16" is too big for the majority of hotel room safes. I've always been very much against the 2016 MBP redesign, but the moment I tried the 13" M1 MBP I knew I would get one as the performance is spectacular for the class as is battery life. I'd like a 14" but...

Q-6

Yea I like to carry around those little Anker Nano 30W chargers when I travel. They're literally the size of those 5W power bricks Apple used to include with the iPhone and they're good enough to charge pretty much all of my devices when I travel. I just toss a couple of them in the bag and use them for everything.

I'm sure I could do that with the 14" too, but I'm not sure it would be quite as practical.

 

[Queen6]

Yea I like to carry around those little Anker Nano 30W chargers when I travel. They're literally the size of those 5W power bricks Apple used to include with the iPhone and they're good enough to charge pretty much all of my devices when I travel. I just toss a couple of them in the bag and use them for everything.

I'm sure I could do that with the 14" too, but I'm not sure it would be quite as practical.

Is what it is, need runtime off the mains the 13" MBP is the weapon of choice...

Q-6

 

[Mr. Dee]

Simple answer is the 13" MBP is well tried & proven, has enormous battery life and has a high level of portability. Companies are generally very conservative and the current 14" & 16" MBP's are a Gen 1 product.

While some decry the 13" MBP shouldn't exist it remains to be a very capable Mac in a small form factor. I own one myself, I don't care for the port solution or the TouchBar. That said as a package; performance - battery longevity - portability the 13" MBP is a very difficult machine to beat out.

If battery life is a prime factor the 13" MBP is the best option as it has the longest runtime. The 14" has a lot to offer but it's likely to have around only half the runtime of the 13" in use.

13" M1 MBP detailed review


14" M1 MBP detailed review

The numbers speak for themselves, these guys go into a lot of detail with no bias. I easily see these numbers and more on my M1 13" MBP likely as I don't push the brightness more than I need.

I like the 14" MBP a lot as it ticks a lot of boxes and then some, however I don't want to compromise on battery life. If the 14" MBP could make it to 15+ hours, I'd likely pull the trigger. I'll wait and see what M3 delivers...

Q-6

I have the 2020 M1 MBP and I don't know what more I could want out of a laptop. It does everything I need I am not in need of any more ports than it already has. I think Apple could keep the form factor around as a middle ground and push the display to 14 inch, but it would probably make sense to just do that for the Air at that point.