Yes and no, respectively. Also same two-week return privileges.... nothing to lose really.Do refurbished MacBooks have the same warranty as the regular ones? If I buy one do I have to worry about it not working as good as a brand new MacBook?
Yes and no, respectively. Also same two-week return privileges.... nothing to lose really.Do refurbished MacBooks have the same warranty as the regular ones? If I buy one do I have to worry about it not working as good as a brand new MacBook?
model with Touch Bar also has more other than Touch Bar
such as a faster processor, more RAM(?), more USB-C ports
Yes, but hopefully they'll be better enough to justify a price increase.Sure, but i don't think the price will be any different.
Wouldn't Kaby Lake at current prices still be over priced?
I decided to turn on the Touch Bar in Xcode today and can't say it's something I would use very often. A lot of the shortcuts and things for more complex apps like Photoshop are faster using keyboard shortcuts. It's just a glorified toolbar that's too narrow and out of the way to be super useful in most situations. The only neat thing I see is Touch ID but my Apple Watch can unlock the newer Macs and I don't give a crap about Apple Pay on my Mac.Just purchased a new Non-Touch bar version and like it a lot . I think the Touch Bar has a lot of potential, but I couldn't justify the price point for something I likely wouldn't use.
That's why I returned my nearly-maxed tb 13" 16gb 1tb 3.2.There're probably a lot of returns because of the relatively poor battery life (compared to the previous model).
[doublepost=1492794523][/doublepost]Just purchased a new Non-Touch bar version and like it a lot . I think the Touch Bar has a lot of potential, but I couldn't justify the price point for something I likely wouldn't use.
Not only in the price. There are so many errors in this MBP.Shows how much of a error in price Apple has made with those laptops
Add two from meI'm guessing they got a good amount of returns on those touch bar gimmick MacBooks
It's has a lot of potential... What are you trying to convince yourself? It's useless since release and will stay ever
Note the absence of the 2015 version as refurb- which still sells as new, but not returned. Superior in all aspects- keyboard, and battery life. Still get 4-8 hours more on the 2015 than the 2016 I tried for a month.Just purchased a new Non-Touch bar version and like it a lot . I think the Touch Bar has a lot of potential, but I couldn't justify the price point for something I likely wouldn't use.
See also:Fair and reasonable MacBook pricing died with Steve Jobs.
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Just simple oversight, I wrote the sentence and revised and didn't remove some other thingsI don't understand what you're saying in the bolded portion of your post?
8 GIGS of ram is a slap in the face. 16 gigs should be base now enough already apple.
They did have issues with battery design, remember? Next gen should be killer.Interesting...though I'm more interested in when Apple upgrades the MacBook Pros to the next chipset. They have some things to iron out with this product line, not the least of which is price.
Not necessarily. Those who either don't have 200+ GB of local files would prefer to save money. If cloud storage wasn't used, Apple would stop selling it...Agreed, and 512GB should be the base storage too.