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Apple Now Selling Refurbished 2017 MacBooks With Kaby Lake Processors
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How hard did you look? The Razor Blade line of laptops easily match the current gen macbook pros in finish and build quality. There are plenty of others as well. You just can't go around comparing $300 15" Dells and Lenovos to $3000 15" Macs and then claim the mac has better build quality than all non-mac devices.
If your goal is to have an extremely lightweight durable device, the Razor Blade kills the MBP, the Razor Blade Stealth kills the MB and MBA, and the Razor Blade Pro makes Timmy cry himself to sleep at night.
Why do so any Tim Cook fans have that attitude? If you're a long term mac fan who's disappointed with the current trash coming out of Apple, rather than voice your opinion on relevant forum, you should go buy a piece of bottom end crap from a competing company?
Then end of that line of reasoning for any company is bankruptcy. Where does a society go when everyone feels they have the right never to hear any opinions they don't like?
Neither?
There are plenty of users out there who'd likely never fill that space even halfway, and who would rarely plug anything into the rMB other than the power adapter.
Apple has a whole line of computers for those who need lots of storage, lots of power, and lots of ports. The rMB isn't aimed at the folks who need those.
1) The Chromebook was the OP's suggested solution, I was just pointing out the irony.
2) If you think what's coming out of Apple is trash, the OP is perfectly free to voice that opinion. You just did; who's trying to stop you?
3) Not sure quite what you're referring to when you say: "everyone feels they have the right never to hear any opinions they don't like."
I doubt anyone disappointed in the MB will enjoy a chromebook, OPs hyperbole aside. I was commenting on your suggestion that if you don't love the current revision of a product you've been using for a long time, just switch to a competitor. You seem to be trying to support Apple with the comment, but if that were Apple's opinion they really would be doomed. They don't want to drive away customers any more than any other company.
I currently have/use a 2011 and 2017 MBP. The 2017 has a nicer screen, nicer sounds quality, and is overall a sleek machine, it takes good advantage of newer tech. But -- the 2011 feels like a higher quality build; nicer curves and edges, more premium feel (the keyboard, light up logo, breathing LED, chime, etc). And of course ports are better than dongles, upgradable internals mean longer service life, etc.
I currently have/use a 2011 and 2017 MBP. The 2017 has a nicer screen, nicer sounds quality, and is overall a sleek machine, it takes good advantage of newer tech. But -- the 2011 feels like a higher quality build; nicer curves and edges, more premium feel (the keyboard, light up logo, breathing LED, chime, etc). And of course ports are better than dongles, upgradable internals mean longer service life, etc.
For your main machine, 256GB would be difficult unless your needs are modest, but if you have a desktop Mac or MBP to do heavy lifting with, and this is your secondary machine it'd likely be fine, especially if you use iCloud.
On my 2009 MBP, I've managed to fit both my software dev tools and my music production tools in 256GB, with room to spare.
Agreed that one port is silly, it should have at least 2 USB-C ports, one on each side, but it's manageable.
I accept your valid point about RazEr, but that is the "only" alternative, otherwise you would have mentioned a few more. The reason I did not consider the Razer is because I would have a tough time rocking it into a business meeting with my clients/colleagues but I have heard many who dont really care.
My Tibook GPU melted down.
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All the rMBP will cook their GPU. It appears you'd agree, too thin with low TDP equals toasted computer (or persistently throttled toy). Apple, Microsoft, nobody defies thermodynamics.
Got myself one of those not long before they discontinued them. I also ordered just the basic, but with upgraded processor (2.9 / i7) and put in a 1TB Sammy Evo Pro myself as well as 16GB of Mushkin Ram.Still rocking my 2012 MacBook Pro with 8 gb of ram and an upgraded 1tb SSD, it has every port you need.
Oh, not to mention a superdrive
Works flawlessly in spite of Apple saying it can only handle up to 8GB of memory. For everyday usage it seems every bit as fast as the maxed out 27" 2013 iMac we have.
But a bench test would probably debunk that, especially in the graphics dept. Great little machine to tinker with though, specially for installing questionable Betas. I appreciate the fact is has both ThunderBolt and USB3, in addition to all the legacy stuff.
LOL!... I would have loved to be a fly on the wall at the meet.
"Should we put a dedicated Radeon 7500 with the nuclear reactor that is the PowerPC 7451 G4?... sure, why not"
The sensors didn't shut it down before overheating? Wow. I guess I should avoid skype on mine.
Ya an "overpriced toy" I use 8+ hours a day and make thousands of dollars a month with. Whatever you say bitterina.
My ire was more directed at the phone, and why we need a processor that powerful in an emoji machine that can take nice pictures as well.
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Exactly.
Refurbished Kaby Lakes already? I hope refurbs can simply be returns or that doesn't seem good at all.
Refurbs becoming available about months post release seems to be fairly typical.
Yes, returns are often part of where these come from. They shouldn't be resold as new, and Apple doesn't really have an "openbox" program, so guess where they go...
FYI - refurb 2017 imacs are showing up now too
Yes, returns are often part of where these come from. They shouldn't be resold as new, and Apple doesn't really have an "openbox" program, so guess where they go...
FYI - refurb 2017 imacs are showing up now too
Well, I guess it depends. If one's imagination is limited to "emoji machines" with respect to the Ax tech breakthroughs and problem solving advanced and superior processing performance can address, you may be right.
I don't think that's true with most people though.
"Most people" (by a HUGE margin) use it for a phone, taking pictures, texting and some web browsing. What imaginary world do you live in where the majority of people are doing hard scientific computations with their cell phone?
Being an engineer who has designed high-speed full-custom signal processing ASICs, I live in a world that understands the computational requirements and load needed for Apple's latest technology. What is your background?
What world do you live in thinking that high-performance processing is the domain of ordinary users doing "hard scientific calculations" on their phone. That's a hoot.
Again, this goes back to my original post. It takes just a tiny bit of imagination to understand how Apple uses the tech in their latest A-series processors is required for under-the-hood tasks that the ordinary user take for granted in the everyday use of their phones. Their latest A11 processor is a great example. Perhaps you can do a little reading about it to better understand how it's being used.
Astonished that you think its all about emoji. That really says a lot.
I've been buying Apple Certified Refurbs for a while now and they're undistinguishable from brand new units. They're not your typical corner electronics store refurbished stuff. They smell and feel brand new and can sometimes be better than the ones sold as brand new.
Saving $200 dollars on them is still a $200 savings however you twist it. To some, this is a lot of savings.