You're certainly in the minority. You probably could've figured it out in the time it took to type that question though.
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Apple Now Selling Refurbished Apple TV 4K Models at $30 Discount [Updated]
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I ordered a 64 gb refurbished today around 5pm. A couple of hours later I got a shipping notice that it will be at my house tomorrow. That’s some fast free shipping as I wasn’t expecting it until next week.
Battery condition wouldn't have to be of concern to you as any product Apple 'refurbs' that contains a battery, receives amongst other things, a new battery before being shipped out.
Just did this 3 weeks ago! I received mine in 8 calendar days from signing up. Sadly, for my area (socal) I will not be staying with them. Their 24/7 tech support is imo a joke.
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I'll have to disagree. Had my aTV4 hooked up to my 50' 2017 Samsung series 6, and when I switched over to the 4K version virtually of the pixels are indistinguishable @ 10.5 feet viewing distance. I have 20/20 vision. The HDR is very noticeable. Of course, it helps to time time to setup your TV, but its sometimes a pain and time consuming...YMMV
100" would be very very nice!
Unlikely to see new ATV before the fall. This one has only been out about 4 months. Frankly it’s surprising to see it offered as a refurbished this soon. Either there was a lot of holiday returns or high defect rate at ramp up.
The price though doesn’t seem to enticing - at least in the U.S. New 32GB ones have been on sale for that price and DTV Now is still offering it essentially for $140 including 4 months of TV (no contract).
Likewise, had them all, some x2 and never purchased AC and never had any problems.
Yes, imagine the potential if they allocated a team and gave it the focus equivalent to what relatively tiny companies like Roku does with a fraction of the money in the bank. I'd love to see Apple do an "all in" onTV for a while. There is still so much potential in this little box.
I agree with you. Apple is really lacking in developing any products besides the iPhone. This thing could be a casual gaming giant. But right now the App Store still lists games as “iOS” and you would have to scroll down to see its compatibility with ATV.
They do need a team dedicated just to development and content..... sigh.
I don't think not understanding the ATV is in the minority. Maybe on this forum, but in the real world, hardly anyone know what an ATV actually is.
First, most people think I am referring to a television. They get confused when I say I hook it up to a TV. Then, I say "like a fire stick", and then they go "oohhhhh, I know what you mean".
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I am a long time ATV user, I have the original, a 2, and three 3s, and now an ATV4.
The ATV4 has been the buggiest Apple device I have ever used. It has gotten better, but it is always like two steps forward for one update, then one step back for the next.
My wife constantly complains about it, always saying that the last ATV didn't have problems.
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HobeSoundDarryl
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It does a LOT of nice things. Pick any one. For example, I get a TON of use out of it as a "just works" way to play my iTunes music, playlists, etc on the best speakers in my home. It's far superior to the classic CD jukeboxes from Sony.
I've digitized all the fam home movies, so they are on-demand available any time anyone wants to watch any of them.
All the photos shot on the mobile devices are immediately displayable on the biggest screens in the house.
Paired with the terrific HDHomeRun boxes + the Channels App, it's a whole house antenna + cable TV with full-featured DVR and no tangible compromises (like Dolby 5.1 sound) or fully-functional DVR.
Movie rental box.
Ripped movie collection box.
Airplay anything to it.
Play games on it.
Video podcasts on the big screen.
Youtube on the big screen.
Netflix/Amazon Prime/etc- all kinds of video apps available.
And on and on.
Yes, great option if DirectTVNow is an option for someone, got my first ATV4K this way.
Not so great for a second or third ATV4K for other rooms or a vacation house.
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I've never had an Apple Refurb that wasn't indistinguishable from new (other than the box it came in). Laptops, mini, ipads, etc. All flawless.
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Sorry, not fully up to speed on these.
I'm curious. What circumstances would make me want to have a higher capacity ATV? I don't buy videos on itunes, just stream stuff.
I’m not sure about the other streaming services like Amazon and Hulu, but you can download select 4K Netflix programs to the
TV
I know several people who did the deal with the previous model. One person, who had cut the cord years ago, kept the subscription. So there strategy does work.
Personally I really don’t want TV at all, but I’d do the Direct TV deal just to have it for a few months.
I'm wondering if I should take the plunge for this despite not having a 4K TV now? Seems there could still be benefits from having the fastest processor and better future proofing.
HobeSoundDarryl
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Right. People do this all the time (buying tech with a bit more power than they can use right now). Your phone likely has the ability to connect to other carriers (bands) right now.
If any of the existing one's conk soon, I'll replace them with 4K version even though some are connected to 1080p TVs and probably will be for at least a few more years. A 4KTV works just fine with a lessor-capable TV. It may seem like overkill connected to some 1080p TVs but there's simpler faster hardware inside, much like buying the latest & greatest Mac though still using it to run the same old software than ran on the old Mac. If you need a little more muscle (for some app), you'll have it.
If any of the existing one's conk soon, I'll replace them with 4K version even though some are connected to 1080p TVs and probably will be for at least a few more years. A 4K
TV works just fine with a lessor-capable TV. It may seem like overkill connected to some 1080p TVs but there's simpler faster hardware inside, much like buying the latest & greatest Mac though still using it to run the same old software than ran on the old Mac. If you need a little more muscle (for some app), you'll have it.
This is up to google, they are limiting it on many devices on purpose I believe.
Damn it, I wonder if it comes with that crappy Apple remote.
Why wouldn't someone get roku, makes no sense to get an Apple Tv.
Why wouldn't someone get roku, makes no sense to get an Apple Tv.
Thank you for the smart comment that does nothing.
If it is that simple, I would not have asked the question, which your comment simply implied that you feel you are smarter than I am and I doubt that...
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Thank you for explaining in more fine details in what it does than certain folks up there...
Guess I have no use for it with my current usage.
Man, I cannot wait until 4K projector prices come down a little and I can afford to jump up from 1080p...
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This is intriguing me. I would love to watch 24p video if I can. Are the streaming services (iTunes, Netflix, Amazon, etc) providing 24p frame rates in their titles or is it the kind of thing you have to use Blu-ray or something to get? I also need to double-check that my projector (Epson 2040) has 24p support...
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if your 1080p plasma is capable of displaying 24Hz natively (at 72 or 96 Hz), like eg. the Pioneer Kuro, then you must consider to Apple TV 4K with its auto frame rate matching (at 1080p) instead of the old Apple TV 4
This is intriguing me. I would love to watch 24p video if I can. Are the streaming services (iTunes, Netflix, Amazon, etc) providing 24p frame rates in their titles or is it the kind of thing you have to use Blu-ray or something to get? I also need to double-check that my projector (Epson 2040) has 24p support...
Seen the 64GB version is £139 here but really not sure I have the need to upgrade my Apple TV from last year. Don't think I watch enough 4K content for it to be worth it.
Never said you were dumb (Though a wise man once said "A huge part of being an idiot is calling people out for thinking they're better than you."). I implied that you were being lazy and/or lacked any form of self sufficiency. You asked the question "Am I the only one still don't understand what it does?" - I answered it, the answer was "you're in the minority". It's an Apple product that's been around for over a decade and you're on an Apple forum.
This tells you exactly what it does https://www.apple.com/tv/
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You believe wrong. YouTube 4K isn't supported on many Apple devices because of lack of royalty free VP9 hardware and software decoders that ~$60 devices like Chromecast Ultra, Amazon Fire TV 4K, etc. have.
Indeed, Apple is all in on HEVC - Safari doesn't even support VP9
This one is Apple's fault.
You did not say that I was dumb, but you simply implied that. The receiving end of the communication always perceives differently.
Back at the original post I made: Am I the only one still don't understand what it does?
You simply supported my point being NOT the only one by stating that I am the minority.
But, you provided absolutely no data to support your claim, which in turn becomes nothing more than your mere opinion. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion whether it is right or wrong.
The next point you made, "You probably could've figured it out in the time it took to type that question though."
Well, I took less than 3 seconds to type that question. For someone like yourself who knows what it does, it still took you more than 3 seconds to find ANY answers to my question, so your argument is totally invalid.
You then implied that I am being lazy, well, guess that applies to you too. That is because you did not even bother trying to say what it does in the first reply that should have taken less time to figure out by the time you typed out the response. Additionally, the second reply simply pointed out to a link that does a poor job of explaining what the product does. So more laziness...
You implied that I lacked any form of self sufficiency, yet there is no proof for the claim since you have absolutely no idea how much I have researched before asking the question, so it is again more opinion of yours.
The reason why the question is being asked in an Apple rumor forum is to expect some help of explanation of what it does and not smart comments.
It is even listed in the forum rules:
"posting overused memes, or making posts with images or videos that contain no relevant, constructive text or commentary. If you aren't interested in a thread, skip the thread; don't post to tell us you aren't interested."
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