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Finally got round to opening mine... how on Earth are you meant to use the keyboard and the trackpad together? The keyboard is way, way too wide.
 
Finally got round to opening mine... how on Earth are you meant to use the keyboard and the trackpad together? The keyboard is way, way too wide.

This. Right. Here. The combination is just under 23 inches wide... and then add a mouse/mouse mat...

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Works for me. It's a beautiful keyboard.

But I rather would've had a keyboard actually without the numeric keypad.
But definitely the Space Gray. I'm pleased. And I don't think there's a problem to get used to it.
Had with numeric keypad earlier too. It's a habit.
 
Never had a problem here.....even when using the Magic Keyboard with Numbers Pad (White) and Magic Mouse 2 (White) and Magic Trackpad (White)..... Now with my new setup I don't have the Space Grey Trackpad (yet). Anyway, the mouse sits at the right side just adjacent to the keyboard and the trackpad at the right side just above the mouse and mousepad for easy reach..... Since everything is wireless, easy enough to shift something to one side, up, down or to a different position as needed.
 
Ordered the keyboard right away, and i like it. Just ordered mouse. Expensive, but Apple Store App and Apple Pay with their fast shipping makes it easy. Current use Logitech MX Master on Pro, so i hope i can adjust to a magic mouse and not just appreciate the aesthetics.

Sure glad Apple decided not to be mean and provide these separately. First nice thing they have done for customers in their product portfolio in a while.

Still waiting for AirPods in black.

I have to say that Apple Pay is what Paypal could have been; "Fast and Easy". I really hope more sites start using Apple Pay. Too many sites still force you to login, or enter your shipping information even when using PayPal. PayPal should say no... and force sites to accept all information from paypal when using paypal checkout. They can provide an optional address overidde after the fact, assuming all responsibility fir the shipment.
 
I had yet another look at this keyboard in the Apple Store yesterday. It would match my new MBP.

It looks ok but it feels hideously bad to type on, just like the one on the MBP.

I'm typing this on my Corsair Strafe RGB (which is currently available at Amazon for £101). It is really solid, has great feeling Cherry mechanical keys, is fully RGB lit and is fantastic to type on.

Ignoring the excessive Apple pricing, it is hard to imagine how people can easily move from a keyboard like this to the Apple one and be an efficient typist.
 
Muscle memory is indeed a b**ch! But after a few days I'm over that hump and enjoying having full sized arrow keys back, not to mention the page up and down and a full sized numerical keypad.
 
Thank you, Kazmac!! To answer your question about whether or not you still need a wired keyboard when updating; I never have, and I have been using wireless keyboards and mice for quite some time now through various versions of the OS and various machines......

Here are a couple more photos, this time showing the 2017 12" MacBook with the mouse, and the black cable plugged into the mouse; see how the underside quite nicely matches the space grey of the machine? :) Of course, I had to use my USB-C - to Lightning cable (white) in order to actually install and pair the mouse, rather than the cable provided! LOL!


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whoever designed the apple mouse to be plugged in like that has no sense of design whatsoever. thats just idiotic.
 
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I don't worry much about it; I periodically check the battery status and when it seems to be getting low, after I shut the computer down for the night I plug the mouse into a wall charger and let it do its thing overnight. In the morning, when I'm ready to use the computer again, the mouse is ready at 100% battery again, too. No big deal, really.....
 
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I don't worry much about it; I periodically check the battery status and when it seems to be getting low, after I shut the computer down for the night I plug the mouse into a wall charger and let it do its thing overnight. In the morning, when I'm ready to use the computer again, the mouse is ready at 100% battery again, too. No big deal, really.....

What is this "shut the computer down for the night" thing of which you speak? :D

Likewise, I do check the battery status of the mouse/keyboard/trackpad and charge them over night, as needed... but without the "shut it down" step.
 
Hi guys,

So I had the Logitech craft and really didn't like it. I returned it and bought the Apple keyboard instead. I've been using a MX master 2 but my wrist hurts at time so picked up a trackpad too so I can change the way I use my wrist every now and then.

I couldn't really find photos of the trackpad and keyboard in front of a MBP, so figured I'd share mine now that I bought them:

https://imgur.com/gallery/P3luL

Let me know if you want close-ups or anything!
 
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Hi guys,

I couldn't really find photos of the trackpad and keyboard in front of a MBP, so figured I'd share mine now that I bought them:

https://imgur.com/gallery/P3luL

Let me know if you want close-ups or anything!
Looks like quite a good colour match there, especially when compared to this picture: https://twitter.com/matthiasrump/status/984760797292359680?s=21

Then again, the variance of space grey on the MacBooks is significant:
But first, a look at the good things: the colour is correct this time! Look how dark the previous one was by comparison (yes, believe it or not, these are both space grey machines!)...

 

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I 2nd the backlit keyboard wish, any color.

Matias makes 'em. Here is their wireless, space grey, illuminated, slim aluminum keyboard:

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Costs less than the Apple keyboard and does way more:

They include a whopping big battery (1,600 mAh) good for a year's use on a charge.

The illumination is powered by a separate battery, so they keyboard won't stop working due to illumination use draining the main battery.

It can pair to 4 devices.

They also have many other versions. Wired, gold, rose gold, silver with white keys, silver with black keys, RGB adjustable illumination, non-illuminated, Windows layout, foreign layouts, cheaper plastic version, etc.

Review:
https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/02/matias-wireless-aluminum-keyboard-review-mac-ipad-video/
 
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Matias makes 'em. Here is their wireless, space grey, illuminated, slim aluminum keyboard:

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They include a whopping big battery (1,600 mAh) good for a year's use on a charge.

The illumination is powered by a separate battery, so they keyboard won't stop working due to illumination use draining the main battery.

It can pair to 4 devices.

They also have many other versions. Wired, gold, rose gold, silver with white keys, silver with black keys, RGB adjustable illumination, PC layout, foreign layouts.

Also costs less than the Apple keyboard.

Review:
https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/02/matias-wireless-aluminum-keyboard-review-mac-ipad-video/
This is the keyboard Apple should be making. Their current ones are sh!te in comparison allowing just ONE device at a time, and completely overpriced given that.

The Matias costs significantly less, yet does everything you want properly and better than Apple's one.

It's just so pathetic how Apple don't want people to use Apple physical keyboards to type on our iOS devices, out of some delusional marketing telling users that either the on screen keyboards are perfectly brilliant you'd never need a physical keyboard, &/or you need to buy a separate 'special' iOS keyboard for the job (at further expense, of course, especially if buying the Apple version)!

They really think we're all stupid enough to suck their BS up.

They know this full well, of course. It doesn't take a genius to realise that users are using more than one device on their desk at the same time (eg. MacBook Pro, desktop Mac, iPhone, iPad), and that desk space is limited.

What's more, it's easy to implement several Bluetooth device access these days into one input device, yet they still market to us the same BS concepts they expect users to believe and put up with.

...Like the lack of a Mac Mini for only 3.5 years(!); it's getting embarrassing now buying into the Apple scrooge ecosystem.
 
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Touch bar sucks. It was a gimmick that flopped pretty hard; like 3D Touch.

I agree. I know one person with a Mac with the touch bar and they never use it.

I'm desperate for a new MacBook. I've replaced my Mac every 1-2 years since my first PowerBook in 2002. My current MacBook Pro is a 2013 because nothing since has been any better but, arguably, a bit worse.
 
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This is the keyboard Apple should be making. Their current ones are sh!te in comparison allowing just ONE device at a time, and completely overpriced given that.

The Matias costs significantly less, yet does everything you want properly and better than Apple's one.
I'd be very careful making such a statement. If you follow the Amazon link in the 9to5mac article, there are way too many negative or mixed reviews about the keyboard for my taste. A lot of buyers there point out that, while visually resembling an Apple keyboard, the build quality is nowhere near Apple's Magic Keyboard, with keys feeling cheaper, more mushy and less tactile to type on than on a Magic Keyboard.

For me that's a big red flag. Yes the connectivity to four devices and the backlit are both great (and features that I'd love to see Apple implement in their own keyboards), but when it comes down to it, what I'm looking for the most in a good keyboard is a great typing experience, it should feel comfortable and tactile to type on. If that's not the case with the Matias keyboard, if Matias strongly neglects the typing experience and the build quality in favor of other show-off features, then it's not better than a Magic Keyboard in my eyes.

There are also lots of reviews criticizing the reliability of the Matias and complaining about connectivity issues and key failures which is another big no-go in my book. Anyone who's even remotely hesistant to buy one of the ≥2016 MBPs or ≥2015 MBs because of their unusually high keyboard failure rate should definitely think twice about the Matias when there's the far more reliable Magic Keyboard for only $20 or so more.
 
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Yes, the space gray keyboard is indeed a beautiful piece of hardware.
I didn't replace my old trackpad as that is still flawless in functionality.
But this keyboard will eventually deserve a space gray trackpad companion.

Now was the time.
Just ordered the space grey Trackpad 2.
Finally got tired of replacing rechargeable battery all the time, of the old trackpad. Probably 3-4 times during 1 chargingcycle of the keyboard.
Will be nice now :)
 
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