Definition of gimmick (from dictionary.com): an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal. Sounds like the brick manufacturing process to me.
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Apple October 2008 Notebook Media Event Coverage
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Definition of gimmick (from dictionary.com): an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal. Sounds like the brick manufacturing process to me.
indeed they do. As much as I would like to get an MBP, I dont need to get one so badly I want to pay the huge difference this time. Ill probably get an Thinkpad W500, which has all sorts of nice features(such as 8gb of ram if you so choose) that Apple didnt bother including.
Oh and 15.4" WUXGA monitor. You hear Apple? Some people are even willing to pay a decent premium for such screens. the $300 I spent to get my T60p upgraded to the UXGA S-IPS was a fantastic investment. 1440x900 is just unusable for me.
Sorry I am late to the party I was at school all day. So let me see if I got this right
Same old macbook with same old cracking issues but now for $100 less
Macbook Air only 1.5lb lighter then macbook but $500 more
No big diff between MB and MBP except more ports and graphic card
FAIL
Same old macbook with same old cracking issues but now for $100 less
Macbook Air only 1.5lb lighter then macbook but $500 more
No big diff between MB and MBP except more ports and graphic card
FAIL
thanks again MR for the SMS updates while i was at work!
My SMS updates didn't work..
You just do not get it! When a PC with the same specs save for the LED display sells for $450 at Walmart you exclude a HUGE portion of the market and no matter how you parse it that is a way to limit your market share. I am an Apple fan - I have all Apple computers and I own iPhones and iPods but so what? When an entry-level MacBook (redesigned) sells for $1300? Get real as you just excluded 90% of the computer population hence Apple with less than 10% market share. Yes, they are growing but they WILL hit a brick-wall in price versus demand especially at $1300 to get 'into' a new MacBook. They dropped the specs, increased the price and pulled what is for many a VERY important port in FireWire.
You may think you are smarter than most, and you may be - but when I was in college and took Macro and Micro economics I learned a thing or two. What did Mr. Jobs major in, again? He is calling the shots and in turn I think he is shooting the Apple brand in the foot. When you give less for more you have a loosing campaign.
Why does everyone feel the need to defend Apple and every bone-headed move they make? The 24" $900 display with specification a 2-year old LCD can match? Oh, right, it is LED. WHO CARES when the response time is 14ms and it is glossy. The LED does NOTHING - NOTHING but reduce energy consumption and more often than not COLOR the image as there is no TRUE white LED available currently. They are close - but not as close as a well engineer CFL.
This is silly to argue with people over this as Apple has become a religion to most on this forum and when that happens all sense of perspective is lost - more often than not. Apple is FALLIBLE and this is a GIANT mistake in my opinion and that is, after all, what this forum is about - OPINION. I think Apple has allowed its GREED and ARROGANCE to lead them on this silly price versus form versus function debacle they displayed today.
I just want a well engineered computer design and a solid OS that works when I turn it on. 10.4.8 and above did that - but not 10.5.x yet Apple expects the customers to plunk down MORE for less? I argue the new MB is LESS although it has some newer technology but no FW, no 2.2GHz CPU as a base system, no BlueRay, no Express Slot - seriously? There are available on a laptop I saw at Aldi's for $399! It was a no-brand AMD Athlon 64X2, 3GB RAM, 250GB HD, 8X DL-DVD and WiFi with A/B/G/N-pre-draft and a 15.4" display with TWO YEARS TECHNICAL SUPPORT! It has Windows Vista Home Premium so that is a non-starter for most but you see what $400 gets you with a PC notebook but you get less with a $1300 MacBook.
Ugh!
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AppliedMicro
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Real life!
Jobs majored in running a real-life billion dollar enterprise.
Apple's market share is continously climbing.
And they are a great amount on every dollar.
So what's the problem about it?
They can't get from 3% to 30% overnight anyway, they don't have the resources. And market share doesn't equal great margins / earning. You sure have learned this in your economics class.
Sure. But the point is: They haven't hit that wall yet. They are growing. And that with relatively high prices. So they must be doing something right, not? They can always lower prices later in the game.
Again: What's the problem? Most people do like the other LED backlit screens from Apple.
But what sort of a campaign do you have when you can actually sell less for more?
That's what Apple currently does.
HkyGrL2
macrumors member
sooooo
I was looking at this video
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pro-requires-logout-to-switch-graphics-modes/
and it was talking about how to switch from the NVIDIA 9400M to 9600M GT...
supposedly it helps with battery life?
But what else is the point in switching between them.
I don't know much about computers and don't own a MP (but will soon 😛)
Can anyone tell me why you would switch between those two besides just battery life? Does the screen look different? Performance?
I was looking at this video
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pro-requires-logout-to-switch-graphics-modes/
and it was talking about how to switch from the NVIDIA 9400M to 9600M GT...
supposedly it helps with battery life?
But what else is the point in switching between them.
I don't know much about computers and don't own a MP (but will soon 😛)
Can anyone tell me why you would switch between those two besides just battery life? Does the screen look different? Performance?
Umbongo
macrumors 601
You get more performance from the 9600M GT with certain applications at the expense of battery life. That's it.
OS X Dude
macrumors 65816
Thank God, someone talking sense at last! 100% agree. Although I don't get the Vista bashing, it works fine for me.
You win - I give-up. It is like talking to a 5-year old who will not go to bed and complains all the time. I know - I have one.
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AppliedMicro
macrumors 68040
Hey, I might take this personally. 😉
Really, I don't like Apple's current pricing shenanigans. For instance, I planned on getting a MacBook Air but now I feel rather like getting ripped off by Apple selling $2 adapters for $29 so that I can have my DVI and VGA. Nor do I like the loss of the FireWire port on the MacBook, not even as a stock owner to-be. But in all earnesty, I am not sure whether Apple have "priced themselves out of the market". Yesterday's hints at Vista and Blu-ray were quite obvious. The same goes for the glossy displays. It remains to be seen if the new models are a bad move, let alone "epic failure" on Apple's part. Maybe they can get away with it, cause they have OS X. That's the point I was trying to get across.
In any case, I sincerely hope Microsoft get their act together to come up with a great (or solid, at least) next Windows release. I really do. Although I believe Microsoft losing market share has been a good thing for us Mac users over the last few years. More retailers, hardware vendors and IT departments (in universities for instance) support the Mac platform nowadays.
However, Apple seems to be getting overconfident and plain unhealthily arrogant again. So I really for some serious competition from the PC side. Not in terms of market share but in terms of inventions and price/value ratios. Other PC manufacturers have done their homework. Now it's up to Microsoft (if anybody) to make a great operating system to go against OS X.
Ah, we agree 100% on that! Apple is arrogant and feels that the Apple 'tax' (and I do not like that statement - but it fits the bill) works out to be about $600 just for the OS is justifiable! That is not a good business model. I will continue to pay for MOST Apple products but I will wait until they make a REAL update with aggressive price cuts to match the market. The only thing Apple has in its advantage is OS X and while that is a HUGE whole-card - it is NOT the be-all end-all, period.
I will sit this update out. When the MB gets Express Slot and FW I will be in.
D - and no offense intended, well - kind of - but only in light of the discourse.
This may drive a few people back over to vista (shudder) just because they can have the better hardware..Just saying even if the elephant is in the room doesn't mean we should ignore it and say it will go away. They need to offer display choices and some real hardware updates. OSX is strong but that alone is not enough to fight against all the other variables. Just saying...Love Mac just not sure who made the decisions for this or even if they are sane...lol
I am sure mac will fix it all but it maybe Q2 or 3 of 09 before they do probably. The refresh though certainly was not keynote worthy. Basically this is to off set the developmental cost of the new track pad and nvidia chips I think. But what do I know.
I am sure mac will fix it all but it maybe Q2 or 3 of 09 before they do probably. The refresh though certainly was not keynote worthy. Basically this is to off set the developmental cost of the new track pad and nvidia chips I think. But what do I know.
TheSlush
macrumors 6502a
Today, is the day... I will buy my first Mac...a Macbook!
I'm so happy! 😀
Congrats!