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Apple October 2008 Notebook Media Event Coverage

johnsy said:
Now I am watching keynote. I understand that imac became a laptop (or should I say that it always was) and that is why new macbooks looks like that.
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They look darn sexy. Wish it was ALL silver, though.

Gonna miss that Blackbook. 🙁 Even though fingerprints would show up everywhere. 😀
 
Chupa Chupa said:
I suspect all the "I'm keeping what I have" folk never were going to buy this round unless Apple came out with a mainframe in a 2lb package, BD-R, 15 USB 2.0 ports, 8 FW400 ports, 4 FW800 ports, 12 eSATA ports, S-Video, VGA, DVI, and HDMI ports, 56K modem, & mini monitor inside trackpad for $899 before $500 rebate.
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That's BS. I would've seriously considered selling this 2 and a half month old MBP for a new one if they hadn't raped the current sleek design. NVIDIA and better battery life just is not enough for me to have to stare at that ugly black bezel and atrocious black keyboard plus glossy screen...sorry.
I don't complain about the price, I'm willing to pay extra cash for an Apple.:apple:
 
SinfonianShrek said:
I will get told to go buy a Dell, I'm sure, but I will say this anyway: Worst. Update. Ever.

No matter what marketing lingo Apple throws out there this was still a primarily cosmetic update. The only backside update to this is the graphics, and the FSB (with the switch to DDR3 accompanying it predictably).

What makes it even more ridiculous is that this still leaves them at the rear of the pack where consumer laptops are concerned spec-wise. I can get a dual core system with a faster clockspeed, more RAM, better graphics (discreet, not integrated), and more storage options for far less. I can do less than half of the cost of a MacBook if I use my company's buying discounts for employees. Tack on the extra $200 Apple is charging for an aluminum case and glass track pad and I can get a portable workstation for the same cost.

Don't even get me started on the MBP.

Oh, and if you want to connect your shiny new laptop to an external monitor BESIDES the new 24" they introduced, well hell, you'll have to shell out for the corresponding adapter as well! They could have been decent enough to at least include the Mini DisplayPort to DVI adapter with the machines.

Apple has been slowly sliding into what I can only describe as the Microsoft Trap. They're starting to believe their own hype and it's getting dangerous. They actually had the guts to unveil these machines with a massive price hike right in the middle of financial chaos.

So all I have to say is that until Apple has regained their common sense and the sense of function AND aesthetic that made their hardware so desirable I will be relying on my Dell that so many of you scorn, especially now that I'm successfully running Leopard on it.

Apple needs to pull their collective head out of their collective @$$.
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Agree except I'm leaning toward a Sony Vaio now (CS series). 😱

I like some of the new MB design (really like the case design) but not sure about the glossy screens (pics so far show a lot of mirror-like images).

Very disappointed that there isn't even a Blu-ray option. I can understand it not being standard, but at least make it an option. They just eliminated everyone that wants BR.

Bottom line, you can get a Vaio CS series laptop with Blu-ray and similiar specs to the MB for less than $1100 (and choose from several colors 😎 ). Not sure how this is "aggressive pricing" like they had announced. 😕

I'm just very disappointed because I really prefer :apple: products. Not sure what to do though. 😕
 
Gasu E. said:
So what's your point? Fact: The Federal government is empowered under the Consitution to regulate interstate commerce. In any case, whatever you are trying to say, apparently this can be extended to pretty much anything:

"U.S. Federal statutory excises are (or have been) imposed under Subtitle D ("miscellaneous excise taxes") of the Internal Revenue Code, 26 U.S.C. § 4001 through 26 U.S.C. § 5000, relating to such things as luxury passenger automobiles, heavy trucks and trailers, gas guzzler vehicles, tires, petroleum products, coal, vaccines, recreational equipment, firearms (see National Firearms Act), communications services (see Telephone federal excise tax), air transportation, policies issued by foreign insurance companies, wagering, water transportation, removal of hard mineral resources from deep seabeds, chemicals, certain imported substances, non-deductible contributions to certain employer plans, and many other subjects."
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Unless the buyer and seller are located in different states, its intrastate commerce. Intrastate commerce is the jurisdiction of the state. They could tax the wholesale transaction between Apple and the retailer, they could also probably tax you if you buy goods in a state other than the one you are a resident is, what they cannot do is tax say an Iowa resident buying from an Iowa merchant.
 
Blu-Ray said:
Agree except I'm leaning toward a Sony Vaio now (CS series). 😱

I like some of the new MB design (really like the case design) but not sure about the glossy screens (pics so far show a lot of mirror-like images).

Very disappointed that there isn't even a Blu-ray option. I can understand it not being standard, but at least make it an option. They just eliminated everyone that wants BR.

Bottom line, you can get a Vaio CS series laptop with Blu-ray and similiar specs to the MB for less than $1100 (and choose from several colors 😎 ). Not sure how this is "aggressive pricing" like they had announced. 😕

I'm just very disappointed because I really prefer :apple: products. Not sure what to do though. 😕
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VAIO CS series are good laptops. I wouldn't feel disappointed if I bought one, quite the opposite. Check some reviews from Engadget/Cnet if you're unsure.
 
ddTaylor said:
Not
now
as
they
priced
themselves
OUT
of
the
MARKET!
JUST
WATCH!
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Really? Are you sure? Thing is there is a long list of people that have been well and truly wrong that have said such things.

I bet they sell like hot cookies, boring update or not.
 
Adjei said:
Why do you care? I'm sick and tired of these whiners. 🙄
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Because you're coming across as a complete tool with your snarky remarks on other people's opinions. Do you address people like this in real life too? Peace, my friend, peace 😱

Enough said, I'm done posting here for today. From the pictures I've seen so far, the screen on the MacBook does look nice, but I'm still bummed about the missing FireWire port though. 😎 One thing I liked about Apple was that they always had 6-pin FireWire on all their machines (insted of that 4-pin crap that a lot of PC vendors shift)... I guess that time has passed.

Shameless advertising ahead: to those of you who have decided on not getting a Mac after all, why not try a PC with Ubuntu and support the Open Source movement? 😀
 
Blu-Ray said:
Bottom line, you can get a Vaio CS series laptop with Blu-ray and similiar specs to the MB for less than $1100 (and choose from several colors 😎 ). Not sure how this is "aggressive pricing" like they had announced. 😕
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That's probably because sony make the BR drives, so can absorb the cost.
 
BenRoethig said:
Who says it will be dead soon? The digital/HD conversion is just starting to begin. Of course Apple could have a major role in this, but Jobs's own biases leave apple short sighted. Blu-Ray as it stands now has a much more promising immediate future than iTunes/AppleTV
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Jobs is ON THE BLURAY BOARD, he knows how its doing.

Where were you when another member of that board stated it will be dead in 5 years.
 
Rassybat said:
Clever fanboy is clever. 🙄

...or not.

But...whatever. I've been eyeballing that little Dell Inspiron Mini 9. Not bad for $350. I'm still keeping my sexy iMac, but something like the Inspiron might be just what I need for mobile emailing and IM chatting.

*watches apple stock nosedive*
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So not agreeing with you makes him a fanboy?
 
NT1440 said:
If you cant recognize the improvement of aluminum over plastic, or one piece aluminum over many parts aluminum, im suprised you know what a gimmick even is. Did you even follow the keynote? this aluminum casing is much stronger against things like dents.

Improving productivity/lowering manufacturing costs is NEVER a gimmick for a company.
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No the response was not direct at you or anyone specifically (well maybe one guy) but if you read my earlier responses I understand 100% why most people would be fine with this update. The specs are great, size weight etc but for me who gets major headaches with glossy/glass covered screens and for pro work (my opinion) I now have no option. And being blasted for it is quite annoying.
 
Adjei said:
Well I'm sick of your lame self, you aren't complaining about any issues with the laptops since you haven't used them, just complaining because Apple didn't release your $200 netbook. 🙄
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What are you TALKING about? I've never even mentioned a crappy "$200 netbook" I feel like I'm debating with a 5 year old.
 
johnsy said:
How much? And what do you get? I pay in USA $126 a month for like 30-40% coverage of my total bills and no dental. Should I add that I am young male and non smoker and with age and children amount skyrockets...
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Try £104 billion cost split between 30 million taxpayers - i.e. £3500 a year for every taxpayer. Free it isn't, unless you don't contribute much to society of course, in which case it costs you nothing.
 
AppliedMicro said:
I though VAT was 17.5% in the UK?!
Different taxes = different prices.

Well... you still have it!
If you can afford $5000++ cams, you can afford the relatively small additional price for the Pro MacBook, not? And that's exactly what Apple wants you to do.


That's what the MBP is for.
(I don't know what "munchkins" are, though. Will have to look it up...)
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Exactly, that's what apple want you to do. Pile of *****.
I can afford a high quality camera for my work, and I work from my mac pro (as is best for HQ editing) but if I want to do some low level on-the-road work, I should be able to choose the computer I want, not the only one I'm told I should have because I spent a lot of money ONCE.

What a stupid attitude to have.
 
Do something USEFUL!

People,

I'm new, long time mac user, but have been reading for awhile. If you really want to see your complaints go to good use, and want do see change, then go here (someone else already suggested, but nothing really was done):

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbook.html

Make an official complaint, and I can promise you that if enough of us do it, apple will listen - and HOPEFULLY change prices and problems!

Please please please do it! Complain about whatever you want - just make sure you include the crappy prices!

Thanks!
 
I have mixed feelings about today's announcements regarding the new MBPs. I'd been in the market for a new 15" laptop with gaming power better than the (old) MBP as well as Blu-Ray capability and had been researching for weeks. First had my eye on the Gateway FX (pretty much can't beat the price/performance on this) but it was too big and clunky when I saw it at the store. When Apple didn't announce anything last Tuesday I pulled the trigger on an Asus G50V-A2 instead. For $1800 base price this had pretty much everything I wanted (9700M GT graphics, 4GB RAM, 500GB hard drive space/7200rpm, blu-ray drive, 2.53GHz processor, HDMI out, ESATA port) in a reasonable package size (it's still a bit bigger than I'd like). I was dreading announcement of a new super MBP that would make me regret my purchase.

So on that front I guess I'm glad but a bit surprised and still somewhat disappointed. The 9600M GT is a bit lacking for my gaming tastes; it would have been great to have more of an option or something truly new/innovative from nVidia on the high end graphics side. Also surprised as some others were that Blu-Ray was not an option. In comparison to the above, you'd pay over $2500 and get less drive space, no BR and lesser graphics power. Yes I realize you'd still be getting a MAC and in a better form factor, but still the price differential is disappointing...

That said, what today did convince me to do was justify upgrading my MBA to the new version. For killer form factor the MBA just can't be beat. I love my MBA and the only complaints I had were the graphics power, low hard drive space and battery life, of which they addressed the first 2. I would have liked to see newer processors but this is still good and I think someone posted that they are using the newer 45nm versions (?).

All in all, Apple still wins by sucking more of my money lol.
 
Blu-Ray said:
Agree except I'm leaning toward a Sony Vaio now (CS series). 😱

I like some of the new MB design (really like the case design) but not sure about the glossy screens (pics so far show a lot of mirror-like images).

Very disappointed that there isn't even a Blu-ray option. I can understand it not being standard, but at least make it an option. They just eliminated everyone that wants BR.

Bottom line, you can get a Vaio CS series laptop with Blu-ray and similiar specs to the MB for less than $1100 (and choose from several colors 😎 ). Not sure how this is "aggressive pricing" like they had announced. 😕

I'm just very disappointed because I really prefer :apple: products. Not sure what to do though. 😕
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You know Blu-ray is Sony's format and they are trying to push but it seems nobody really gives a damn, which is why they are finding hard to push the format. Even Samsung one of the backers of the format said it would be dead in 5 years, i'm sure they have a lot of faith in it.
 
swarmster said:
4GB of DDR3 is pretty significant.

And I'm pretty sure Vista can only utilize 3.4GB of ram, so those "competitors" must just like having you pay extra?
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Vista x64 can certainly address and use all 8GB of the RAM in my dell notebook sitting in front of me.
 
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