Apple Offering 'Free' Updates to All Owners of Aperture, iWork, and iLife; Not Worried About Unethical Users

[b.c.]

Hi
It was/is still possible. Please search this thread!!

Regards

thanks. I should have clarified my earlier comment, I've not (yet) tried installing a trial version of Aperture v3, which I see discussed earlier in this thread. maybe it was elsewhere but people have posted success with things like changing language settings to English or logging out/in to the MAS, etc... to get the update to show up in the app store.

my original question (also asked by OsloBergen) was if if anybody with a paid disc-installed version of Aperture 2 has been able to get the MAS update to Aperture 3.5?

 

[kazmac]

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As well they should

Glad I did not have to pay for Pages yet again.

 

[kunai]

Free software to sell the sexy hardware. I'm liking this entire week.

Free as in beer, not free as in freedom.

 

[coolguy4747]

I didn't read every single post so sorry if this was discussed already. I have the original Aperture on my iMac G5 running Tiger, which won't run on my current 2010 MBP running Mavericks. Is there any way I can get a newer version onto my MBP? I've managed fine without Aperture since getting my MBP, so I'm fine if this just isn't possible, but if they're offering then I'm sure as hell gonna take 'em up on it.

 

[marku5]

Don't count on it. Make sure you get AppleCare. I (foolishly) didn't for my maxed out 2011, and bit a $1,000 bullet less than 2 years in with a logic board and graphics card replacement on a home-use-only computer. And it's not the only Mac I've had issues with (although the others were repaired under warranty).

I used to be attached to my old "PowerMac lasted me 7 years" paradigm; bad idea. It's a PC. They all break. I especially don't trust the iMac, all that heat in a single enclosure can't be good (although I hear the new ones run much cooler than mine). So I'd temper expectations if I were you.

no worries!
i got an app with the imac..

like i said i´m only buying a new one because lightning literally struck..

but im very confident in my new imac lasting 5 years very well and ad another 5 good!

will probably get a small online usv to be save..

 

[abc123]

Ok I so got this to work and decided to give pages another whirl after not touching it for years. Where have the layout breaks gone? Without them how can you set different margins for different pages?

I tried to use one of the included templates but it has a ridiculously large blank top margin on all but the first page where there is a text box. I appreciate the simple interface but and think it looks much better than previous versions but unless I have missed something, there seems to be a bit of functionality missing.

 

[the8thark]

As far as Aperture goes: Like most people on this planet, for all I know it exists. But Adobe Lightroom users might be able to tell you a little more about it.

You've got iLife for free with every new Mac for a long time now, so you're eligible for that already if you Mac is more or less recent. If your Mac came with iLife '08 or older, it'll only run Lion for the most part and won't be anywhere near fast enough anymore to run modern workloads in iMovie and GarageBand without you either getting hot flashes or a hot coffee around the corner while waiting for it to process your project: It's time for a new Mac.

The same holds true for the iWork license, except that good guy Apple grants you that license in advance. At some point, you'll upgrade your Mac anyways and get your free iWorks license - why make a big fuzz about it and deter people from enjoying iWork in the meantime. You'll be appreciating your now-legal, hassle-free version of iWork the next time Microsoft Office requires "unethical actions" for which Microsoft very much would like to put you in jail for decades, just to keep it running.

I agree 100%. Why bother with paying now for software you will get soon enough with your next Mac. And as you say new features + the need of more Mac horsepower for the apps will keep people upgrading their hardware.

A Mac with OS X + iLife + iWork + cloud + access and some cloud services + facetime + Xcode for the devs all of a sudden seems a really good deal. To get all of that on equivalent non-Apple hardware would cost more than most people think. Buying a Mac these days is really a package deal as the hardware cost covers all of the above.

Similarly an iDevice + iOS + iLife + iWork is not too bad either. Sure on iDevices those apps are not good for long usage but for short bursts they work just fine.

MS and co should be worried about this. Those on OS X who are not required by a job or place of study to have Office for the most part won't buy it now. Why buy Office when you can get 95% of that functionality in iWork that comes with your hardware.

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Free as in beer, not free as in freedom.

Blame Obama for that. The EU currently are.

 

[kingtj]

Self entitlement?!

Wow.... ok. I re-read my last post several times before I realized where you must have gotten that out it. But that would be an incorrect interpretation.

I wasn't complaining that Apple "owed me free licensed versions" for whatever apps I might have installed free trials for in the past or what-not.

I was simply pointing out that the ability for someone to convert a trial/NFR/educational install of iLife/iWork '09 apps or Aperture 3.0 was done for practical reasons by Apple. Any talk that the company did it simply out of generosity is marketing-speak and little more.

(Those particular apps were released on both physical media and subsequently only sold as downloads from the App Store without a major version change happening between the changes. That put Apple in a bit of a predicament it didn't have with the rest of its commercial software lineup.)

Some people really do have a bad case of self entitlement.

 

[GoCubsGo]

I didn't read every single post so sorry if this was discussed already. I have the original Aperture on my iMac G5 running Tiger, which won't run on my current 2010 MBP running Mavericks. Is there any way I can get a newer version onto my MBP? I've managed fine without Aperture since getting my MBP, so I'm fine if this just isn't possible, but if they're offering then I'm sure as hell gonna take 'em up on it.

So you cannot get the version of Aperture that you have on your iMac onto your MBP? I figured you could install it but had to update it or something.

 

[helpneed]

my original question (also asked by OsloBergen) was if if anybody with a paid disc-installed version of Aperture 2 has been able to get the MAS update to Aperture 3.5?

Not to my knowledge yet.
You have answered the another way around..That still works.

regards

 

[Razeus]

It seems like I have an update for Aperture 3.5.

 

[odedia]

Don't get too ahead of yourself. Have you actually used the new iWork yet?

I did. Before, it was 100% useless to me. Today it is useful to me, I don't care what features they added or removed, at least I can now USE the darn thing.

 

[Max(IT)]

Probably not, but have you taken iWork09 for a spin yet? It's great, and Apple even generously allows you to try it for 30 days for free...

Link to iWork trial

This is amazing ... It works !
I installed the Trial version and it was upgraded to a full licensed new version

I'm strongly against piracy , but I don't know, this isn't piracy by any means.
Basically apple gave me iWork for free ...

 

[bluespaceoddity]

This is amazing ... It works !
I installed the Trial version and it was upgraded to a full licensed new version

I'm strongly against piracy , but I don't know, this isn't piracy by any means.
Basically apple gave me iWork for free ...

I think all people who are against piracy should contemplate the following and then evaluate their decisions.

Where on the actual Apple website does it say that:
a. The free trial of iWork is still available?
b. That such a trial version gives permission to download the full iWork Apps for free from the Mac App Store?

I don't think you can find such a policy described on the actual Apple website. In fact Apple has posted this notice:
"The trial version of iWork is no longer supported. But you can easily purchase Keynote, Pages, and Numbers from the Mac App Store to start creating beautiful presentations, documents, and spreadsheets today."
http://www.apple.com/iwork/download-trial/

A similar notice was posted for Aperture as well:
http://www.apple.com/aperture/trial/

Nothing in this KB about trial versions qualifying for free updates either:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5975

This situation seems to me to be somewhat similar to a bank depositing money in the wrong account. Just because that money ends up in someone's account erroneously doesn't give the person the right to spend that money. That it even appeared in the account is the result of a glitch.

People using this update route starting from a free trial version without purchase should be aware that it isn't an Apple supported policy to get these Apps for free through the trial versions. That it is possible to download updates through the Apps Store is the outcome of Apple's desire not to deprive legitimate owners who purchased certain older versions of these Apps of a route to an update. Offered because previous systems for purchasing these Apps outside the App Store are not completely functioning for giving otherwise eligible owners the opportunity to update previously purchased Apps through the App Store.

 

[Max(IT)]

Just to explain my situation: I had aperture 3 regularly purchased (DVD version) in an Apple Store for 199€ (version 3.5 now is 69€ !!!). It was updated at Aperture 3.5 for free by Apple.
I didn't really need iWork since I had Office 2011 already installed, and regularly purchased, on my MacBook Pro (tre licenses version).

Now, what's wrong in having an old copy of the trial version installed from a repository or a backup on my external hdd ?
The trial didn't say it was expired, it did install and activated itself for a 30 days trial.
10 minutes later MAS prompted for a free update.
I didn't trick any code or file or anything at all.

I think your example has nothing to do with what happened here ...

 

[bluespaceoddity]

Just to explain my situation: I had aperture 3 regularly purchased (DVD version) in an Apple Store for 199€ (version 3.5 now is 69€ !!!). It was updated at Aperture 3.5 for free by Apple.
I didn't really need iWork since I had Office 2011 already installed, and regularly purchased, on my MacBook Pro (tre licenses version).

Now, what's wrong in having an old copy of the trial version installed from a repository or a backup on my external hdd ?
The trial didn't say it was expired, it did install and activated itself for a 30 days trial.
10 minutes later MAS prompted for a free update.
I didn't trick any code or file or anything at all.

I think your example has nothing to do with what happened here ...

I think it does. That's why I wrote it the way I did, quoted the product related notices from the Apple site and offered the banking analogy.

You have a paid edition of Aperture 3 that is eligible for free updates so you're one of the people Apple intended to benefit from the free App store updates of Aperture.

If you previously had not purchased a version of iWork Apps and didn't purchase a computer that came with iWork bundled you were not eligible for any update of iWork. That updating works with a trial version is a by-product of a system intended for people who were unable to upgrade their purchased versions of iWork Apps.

 

[ciarals]

Hello guys! I'm writing this post to help you clarify (I hope!) the official position of Apple.

I'm a legacy user of iLife and iWork suite. I had iLife '08 suite installed on my MacBook Pro Late 2008. In 2009 I bought iWork '09 and in 2010 I bought iLife '11. Of course, not through the Mac App Store, it didn't existed yet I bought the boxed version.

As many, I tried updating for free my existing iLife and iWork apps with no success. I didn't want to use a trick to download them (change language, new account, etc.) because I just wanted to see what were my "rights".

So I wrote to Apple and here's the reply:

Dear Luca,

Please allow me your patience to explain further about the Up-To-Date program.

Please make sure you meet the following requirements in order to be eligible for the program:

- You must have a qualifying new Mac or an Apple Certified Refurbished computer purchased on or after October 1, 2013.

- Your Mac must run OS X Mavericks. If you are not running OS X Mavericks, launch the Mac App Store, sign in with your Apple ID, and install it, free of charge.

Upgrade to OS X Mavericks
http://www.apple.com/osx/how-to-upgrade/

- You must have an account registered in United States or Canada.

If all of the requirements have been met, you are then eligible to update your iLife/iWork apps to the newest versions, free of charge. However, if you purchased a qualifying Mac and it did not include Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, you can download them free by following the steps on the article below:

Up-To-Date Program for Pages, Numbers, and Keynote
http://www.apple.com/creativity-apps/mac/up-to-date/

In case you're eligible for free iLife/iWork update but you were prompted to purchase or you have been charged, you will need to submit a claim. To submit a claim for the Up-to-Date program, please follow the steps below:

1. Visit https://uptodate.apple.com/welcome

2. Click "Go to the Mac Up-to-Date program instead."

3. On the next page, please enter your Apple ID and password then follow the next steps.

Please be prepared to provide your Apple ID, serial number, and sales receipt.

For more information about the Up-To-Date program, please visit this page:

http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/
http://www.apple.com/creativity-apps/mac/up-to-date/

I hope this information has been helpful and further clarify your concerns. Please feel free to contact us back if you have any other questions or concerns. Thank you and Have a great day!

Of course, I'm not meeting 2 of the 3 requirements (I have an italian account and my Mac is old), but the strange thing is that (maybe I'm wrong) these requirements are not on Apple website.

I've answered the email telling this and will let you know soon the answer, if you need it Bye!

 

[coolguy4747]

So you cannot get the version of Aperture that you have on your iMac onto your MBP? I figured you could install it but had to update it or something.

I haven't tried it (the disc is at home and I'm away at school), but it's not universal and Lion+ doesn't support PPC apps so I'm just not sure what would happen.

 

[Max(IT)]

I think it does. That's why I wrote it the way I did, quoted the product related notices from the Apple site and offered the banking analogy.

You have a paid edition of Aperture 3 that is eligible for free updates so you're one of the people Apple intended to benefit from the free App store updates of Aperture.

If you previously had not purchased a version of iWork Apps and didn't purchase a computer that came with iWork bundled you were not eligible for any update of iWork. That updating works with a trial version is a by-product of a system intended for people who were unable to upgrade their purchased versions of iWork Apps.

This is YOUR explanation, not an Apple official statement.
If apple want to exclude trial versions, it could be easily done, but this was not the case.
I didn't even ASK for a free upgrade: MAS prompted me to do that by itself.

 

[SanJacinto]

This is YOUR explanation, not an Apple official statement.
If apple want to exclude trial versions, it could be easily done, but this was not the case.
I didn't even ASK for a free upgrade: MAS prompted me to do that by itself.

I don't think so. I think using the trial from sources like softpedia, etc. is illegal and therefore a way of stealing software.

On the other side, Apple still offers the download for the iWork and Aperture trial - you just have to know the url - in this case I am not so sure if it is illegal.

 

[Max(IT)]

I don't think so. I think using the trial from sources like softpedia, etc. is illegal and therefore a way of stealing software.

On the other side, Apple still offers the download for the iWork and Aperture trial - you just have to know the url - in this case I am not so sure if it is illegal.

I downloaded the trial from apple site (iWork ... I purchased the DVD version of Aperture 3).

 

[helpneed]

This situation seems to me to be somewhat similar to a bank depositing money in the wrong account. Just because that money ends up in someone's account erroneously doesn't give the person the right to spend that money. That it even appeared in the account is the result of a glitch.

I find the above interpretation is not accurate.
If one already has a Mac Book Air & a Mack Book Pro without iWork goes on to buy a New Mac Book Air.
The new Mac Book Air is sold by Apple with Maveric OS and iWork installed.
All three computers are belong to same household with same Apple account.
When the old Mac Book Air & the Old Mac Book Pro are updated with the free available OS Maveric both old computers suggests available free update for iWork in the App store (The App store account is common for all three computers).
By the above definition one should not update to the iWork on their old computers but the user is not computer savvy and set it for automatic available updates.
So where does this household stand in terms of this automatic iwork update in their old computers???
Regards

 

[bluespaceoddity]

I find the above interpretation is not accurate.
If one already has a Mac Book Air & a Mack Book Pro without iWork goes on to buy a New Mac Book Air....

In your hypothetical scenario the software comes bundled with a legitimate purchase of a computer - which makes the owner eligible for updates from the App Store. See the KB article I posted in the same comment as the analogy you excerpted:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5975"

What you have here, however, is someone downloading a discontinued trial version. A trial version that Apple specifically states has been discontinued. See the article linked in the OP and the links reposted below in a different analogy posted for you to evaluate. In the situation for which I wrote the banking analogy there is no previous purchase of a product that entitles a legitimate owner to a free update of iWork. Here is the other analogy to the trial version based scenario:

Someone tells you there is a free trial product from a store. You don't go to the front of the store but enter via a backdoor. You don't see anyone in the warehouse but assume that it is ok to take the product from the shelf without asking.

You tell someone else about this and they tell you that there is actually a sign in the front of the store which says that the trial product you took is not supposed to be offered to the public anymore.

The sign in the hypothetical shop may look something like this:
http://www.apple.com/iwork/download-trial/
http://www.apple.com/aperture/trial/

Accurate so far?

 

[SanJacinto]

In your hypothetical scenario the software comes bundled with a legitimate purchase of a computer - which makes the owner eligible for updates from the App Store. See the KB article I posted in the same comment as the analogy you excerpted:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5975"

What you have here, however, is someone downloading a discontinued trial version. A trial version that Apple specifically states has been discontinued. See the article linked in the OP and the links reposted below in a different analogy posted for you to evaluate. In the situation for which I wrote the banking analogy there is no previous purchase of a product that entitles a legitimate owner to a free update of iWork. Here is the other analogy to the trial version based scenario:

Someone tells you there is a free trial product from a store. You don't go to the front of the store but enter via a backdoor. You don't see anyone in the warehouse but assume that it is ok to take the product from the shelf without asking.

You tell someone else about this and they tell you that there is actually a sign in the front of the store which says that the trial product you took is not supposed to be offered to the public anymore.

The sign in the hypothetical shop may look something like this:
http://www.apple.com/iwork/download-trial/
http://www.apple.com/aperture/trial/

Accurate so far?

I strongly agree with what you wrote. This is the reason why I didn't use this way of getting a free full version of iWork.

But on the other hand, why is the link on the Apple servers still working?
No downloading from torrent or softpedia is necessary.

 

[bluespaceoddity]

I strongly agree with what you wrote. This is the reason why I didn't use this way of getting a free full version of iWork.

But on the other hand, why is the link on the Apple servers still working?
No downloading from torrent or softpedia is necessary.

I do not know why the trial versions still exist on the Apple servers.