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I was able to qualify successfully, AT&T plan user here. Did anyone try to check ability to upgrade in Apple.com? Because we’re only at 11 months, I got the message that I was eligible but had to pay one more payment. Seems reasonable I suppose, but I was kinda expecting a waiver thanks to the delayed release of the X last year. Oh well.
 
Are you able to make the first 12 months of payments sooner? Like the ability to pay off a years worth of payment inside of 3 months.
 
Can anyone tell me if I’m on the Verizon upgrade program can I do this or is this purely for iPhone upgrade users? I tried calling Verizon and they said I cannot pay early until I upgrade which my assumption will be at pre order.
 
So do I. I won’t try to convince you but in my experience the last 2 years it’s been a hard pull and my credit is above 800

That’s fine. I wasn’t the one trying to definitively say the entire world does or doesn’t have something happen to them. I was saying I haven’t had hard pulls, which clearly means that not everyone gets a hard pull every time. There are also plenty of people on the forums and elsewhere online that also say they don’t get a hard pull. Citizens One has fine print somewhere that even says they can use only your current account standing as grounds for approval.
 
I stopped doing the iPhone upgrade program since citizens hard pulls credit every year. I’m extremely anal with my credit scores.

A single hard pull has a very small effect on your credit score and adding more data points such as paying off the IUP loan each year and on time each month, will probably increase your score in the long run.

Unless you are actively seeking a mortgage this is indeed anal lol.
 
A single hard pull has a very small effect on your credit score and adding more data points such as paying off the IUP loan each year and on time each month, will probably increase your score in the long run.

Unless you are actively seeking a mortgage this is indeed anal lol.
Here’s the thing. I am seeking a mortgage within the next few months which is why i don’t want my credit pulled for a phone I can pay cash for, but I’m all for interest free.
 
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So do I. I won’t try to convince you but in my experience the last 2 years it’s been a hard pull and my credit is above 800

It most certainly is not a hard pull. As for credit score whores with credit above 800, that doesn’t always mean its as valuable as someone with a score of 730 or so but with multiple accounts paid, on time, and with a longer history. Lots of teenagers and young 20s have high credit scores bc no history, etc. but its not as ‘good’ a score as the aforementioned example. Maybe that’s a reason you’re getting hard pulls?
 
It most certainly is not a hard pull. As for credit score whores with credit above 800, that doesn’t always mean its as valuable as someone with a score of 730 or so but with multiple accounts paid, on time, and with a longer history. Lots of teenagers and young 20s have high credit scores bc no history, etc. but its not as ‘good’ a score as the aforementioned example. Maybe that’s a reason you’re getting hard pulls?
Decades of on time payments perfect history ideal % of credit cards and all balances paid off and FICO scores at the top, no I don’t think my lack of credit or history is my issue, surly I can’t be the only one with this experience.
 
Crap. Just noticed I have a hard pull.. luckily I won’t be buying a house until 2020... credit score of 780.. I ain’t worried.
 
I stopped doing the iPhone upgrade program since citizens hard pulls credit every year. I’m extremely anal with my credit scores.
I only had a hard pull the first year, nothing since. Even looked at my credit monitoring service after getting preapproved. No hard pull.
 
Question...I want to get my wife and I both new devices with IUP. Do I need to do the application twice, one for her on her device and again for mine?
 
I made my 12th payment last week before everyone is going to scramble to pay today.

But I believe Apple will collect the 12th payment, 1st payment, and taxes during your pre-order.

You can also call Citizens One at 855-764-6395. Can’t make the payment online from their website. Make sure to have your loan number ready. I would highly recommend to ask the rep how many more payments until your 12th payment just to confirm how many you actually need.


I called Citizens One last week to make my last payment and they put the payment on my iPhone Upgrade Program loan from two years ago. Took me until today to figure out that little mess. So they refunded me the payment, but now I still owe one month on it and it won’t post by tomorrow before preordering. Hopefully I can make the last payment as I complete the checkout via the Apple Store app.
 
Decades of on time payments perfect history ideal % of credit cards and all balances paid off and FICO scores at the top, no I don’t think my lack of credit or history is my issue, surly I can’t be the only one with this experience.

All it takes is a single surly creditor (say, a hospital) to kick your years of history down the road. Credit scores are extremely fickle things. The best thing is to not have to rely on them at all.
 
Is there any advantage of going through Apple instead of the carrier (in my case AT&T)?

If you do it through Apple you get AppleCare included (though they charge a little bit more so it kind of all evens out).

If you do it through Apple, you get an unlocked phone. So if you travel to another country you can use another SIM without having to deal with getting AT&T to unlock it (which usually takes several days and a paid of a submission process). Though I suppose this doesn't matter as much anymore with the new dual-SIM setup. But if you stick it out through the 24 months and the phone becomes yours, it'll sell for more unlocked than if it was tied to AT&T.
 
It most certainly is not a hard pull. As for credit score whores with credit above 800, that doesn’t always mean its as valuable as someone with a score of 730 or so but with multiple accounts paid, on time, and with a longer history. Lots of teenagers and young 20s have high credit scores bc no history, etc. but its not as ‘good’ a score as the aforementioned example. Maybe that’s a reason you’re getting hard pulls?

No credit is not the same thing as good credit, or even bad credit. It’s a blank slate. I’d love to see a teenager with a credit score (an actual FICO, not a FAKO that goes into the 900’s) in the 700’s because that’s highly unlikely. And all things being equal, a higher credit score is better. Which ignores that these things are correlated anyway. A credit report with multiple accounts paid, on time, and with a longer history is likely to be in the upper 700’s or into the 800’s anyway, not in the 730’s. If you do all those things but are over leveraging your credit by running credit card balances that are 20%+ of their limits, yeah you will drop down on your score.
 
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