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Look! It's the Mac Pro X! Just what everyone wanted - a smaller, lighter stationary computer that is only expandable via an expensive cable that no one supports.

We need tools, not shiny cases. I need expandability, not a table cluttered in expensive cables that don't plug into anything. I don't need a smaller, lighter stationary computer. I need more places to put hard drives, video cards and ram as I can afford it. I need a disk drive. Apple is killing me. For what I needed, wanted and waited patiently for so long for - I got not one single thing I can use. I understand trying to be innovative if they've found a new way to make an old tool better - but changing things we've all come to know, love and need into something useless and unrecognizable just for the sake of change is exasperating (see; Final Cut X). Sure, it's pretty. It'll look great under a table every time I accidentally kick it or get my foot tangled up in one of the 20 cables laying in a rat's nest next to it. Looking forward to the clutter of hard drive caddies, a RedRocket card enclosure, the bare LG BluRay writer tethered via a USB cable, the adapter array full of FireWire ports to access cameras and drives containing legacy projects…oh, wait, never mind. It also just occurred to me - how am I going to mount that thing in a rack??? How is any of this going to attach to shared storage when I'm gonna have to wait 2 years for a 3rd party to invent an impossibly expensive Fibre channel adapter? Seriously, does anyone there actually use these products when they're designing them or listen to customers - or do they look at the suggestion cards and do the opposite???

Not that any of this really matters because without a working version of Final Cut, I don't need one anyway. So, thanks for saving me a bunch of money I guess? 3 - 4K monitors. For who??? The high school students using FCPX won't be able to afford it, nor will they need that much real-estate to edit YouTube videos.

God help Apple this is a disaster. They do know 'Pro' is short for 'professional' right?

I'm so depressed. I waited for 5 years to get nothing I can use or wanted.

You know thunderbolt fibre channel adapters exist today. They are also not any more expensive than PCI Fibre Channel. I am not sure your as Pro as you believe you are. Your knowledge of the tools in this space seems pretty lacking.
 
How old are you? Are you serious? You do realize a Blu-Ray is anywhere from 25-50GB's. Sending my clients finished work via the "interwebz"?

And flash drives would not be cost effective or people would have issue on how to use them depending on what the content was. (Like video)
 
So, all the complainers were okay with "trash can" PC's for decades? Why no complaints before?

Please take the internet denizen trolling/whining elsewhere. You don't make sense.
 

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Steve had great taste. I'm sure he rejected dozens of John's designs. But now there's no such smart filter anymore. This thing looks original, but... it's just not Apple. And removing internal expandability option... Tim lost the contact with reality.
 
So, all the complainers were okay with "trash can" PC's for decades? Why no complaints before?

Please take the internet denizen trolling/whining elsewhere. You don't make sense.

Doesn't really look like a trash can. Plus there are all types of PC towers and many are just function and nothing all that amazing about their design.
 
Um, send it to them via the interwebz?? FTP much? (guess not)

Oh .. so your end-products in in the cloud.

I don't know about you, but if I were a client, I wouldn't appreciate my designer's/photo/videographer's final works sent out via email.
Any kindergarten kid could email pictures and videos nowadays.

I'd want them printed, packaged, or stored on a physical media with a great packaging and neat appearances. Because I'm paying top dollars, I expect top result here. End packaging in a physical media is the only way to do it.

Maybe it's okay for you if next year Apple sells you Macbook and get it sent via interwebz. No need for physical product, remember?
 
Pretty enough, but not practical and not professional.

I need space for four internal hard drives, a dvd / cd / Blu Ray drive as my clients still want stuff on disc.

I don't want cables taking over my workspace. If anything it looks back to front and what the hell do we do with the empty space inside ? Maybe we can use it as a trash can ...

I just hope it's user expandable as i like to upgrade parts as and when rather than the whole darned unit.

Been a G3 / G4 / G5 and two Mac Pro user for years but all in all a bit disappointed and now what computer will i buy ?

You can't manage a few cables with about 80% more space to work with. These arguments are childish. I can't believe anyone making them is a professional anything.
 
There seems to be a lot of coo-cooing over the look of it, not a big fan of it myself but I think they missed the point of the Mac Pro when they created that Mac iCan. Power users generally want a self contained unit with internal expandability, not some spinning top that they can spin round just to get at the back cables that they will have to plug all their bloody devices into. If this ****** was internal we wouldn't have to spin it around to start with. I think they were so concerned with innovating, they kind of lost the plot on what the Mac Pro is, which is a pure out and out workhorse.
 
Oh .. so your end-products in in the cloud.

I don't know about you, but if I were a client, I wouldn't appreciate my designer's/photo/videographer's final works sent out via email.
Any kindergarten kid could email pictures and videos nowadays.

I'd want them printed, packaged, or stored on a physical media with a great packaging and neat appearances. Because I'm paying top dollars, I expect top result here. End packaging in a physical media is the only way to do it.

Maybe it's okay for you if next year Apple sells you Macbook and get it sent via interwebz. No need for physical product, remember?


Eventually your clients will want you to join them in 2013.
 
This may have been discussed already, I didn't read 13 previous pages, but I'm very excited about the change in PRO colors. It appears this unit is a very dark gun-metal grey and black.. which we can only expect to see soon in the next MBP. Awesome.. the aluminum look is almost over!
 
Oh .. so your end-products in in the cloud.

I don't know about you, but if I were a client, I wouldn't appreciate my designer's/photo/videographer's final works sent out via email.
Any kindergarten kid could email pictures and videos nowadays.

I'd want them printed, packaged, or stored on a physical media with a great packaging and neat appearances. Because I'm paying top dollars, I expect top result here. End packaging in a physical media is the only way to do it.

Maybe it's okay for you if next year Apple sells you Macbook and get it sent via interwebz. No need for physical product, remember?

How about cutting costs and passing the savings off to clients who know how to use the 'interwebz' (as you said it) and don't care as much for great packaging and neat appearances?
 
I want one but am afraid of all the crap I will eventually drop in the top of it like paper clips, pens, beer. Needs vents on the side and a closed top.
 
Eventually your clients will want you to join them in 2013.

That could take awhile for some if at all. Likely why people with clients need options because some people are either living in the present or even the past. I know someone that is hardly above thirty and they still use a portable CD player. oO
 
No dual sockets or changeable GPU is a bummer. Looks like a sweet Mac Mini form factor, but I am sure it is a fast machine. I like the looks of it actually. Mixed overall.

Going to be expensive for sure.

I would love to see the New Mac pro as the Mini, and the mac pro kept the same with some minor tweaks, and a mid range tower released all today.
 
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They could have options.

If more of the same means functional and useful I imagine many would like that. Is changing just for the sake of it a good enough reason?



A few since it is part of the percent that we are living in.

It's certainly not change "for change's sake". That's just an ignorant statement. This machine is MUCH more energy efficient, obviously space-efficient, is multiples faster than the outgoing Mac Pro, has a litany of Thunderbolt ports, I mean what kind of fool statement is that?

No this is not a utilitarian machine. That market is reserved for Windows PC's, and Apple decided a while ago they'd rather stay at the forefront of electronic, ergonomic and mechanical design, not make boxes.
 
You can't manage a few cables with about 80% more space to work with. These arguments are childish. I can't believe anyone making them is a professional anything.

Anyone can say (and lie) "I'm a professional video editor" these days. It means NOTHING. All these YouTube "V-loggers" are, apparently, "professionals"... LOL


With SO many "professionals" out there, quality must be VERY diluted. Here's what happens:

1/ Person buys Mac Pro and associated kit

2/ Person sets up Mac and buys a video camera

3/ Person learns "Wedding movies for Dummies"

4/ Person builds (?) a "Professional" website (A Facebook page/a blog = free... LOL)

5/ Person advertises "Professional videos for any occasion", and from then on, expects everyone to address them as Mr or Mrs "Professional".


Summary: Any consumer can buy ALL this stuff, and claim to be a "professional" - remember, even consumers have £10-20,000 spare in many cases. They feel that they HAVE to convince others they are "Professionals" to justify their outlay - it means nothing to say of yourself "I am a professional" ... yeah, a professional BLAGGER! :D

There is ***A LOT** of "professionals" churning out a LOT of CRAP, just look at the TV guide for the week - all that amazing hardware and work, WASTED on lowest common denominator trash!


You can go to university for 3 years and learn iOS programming, or you can be born with amazing coding gifts, be 13 years old and become a millionaire OVERNIGHT! A title means nothing except to those who are impressed by a title.
 
This may have been discussed already, I didn't read 13 previous pages, but I'm very excited about the change in PRO colors. It appears this unit is a very dark gun-metal grey and black.. which we can only expect to see soon in the next MBP. Awesome.. the aluminum look is almost over!

It's just black anodised aluminium as opposed to clear anodised aluminium.
 
It looks fantastic for workgroups, but less of a solution for standalone single-user use. My reasoning is this; this is a supremely networkable computer, and an exceptionally fast one, and it reflects the increasing trend toward using a NAS as a server, now that the best NAS devices can actually max out Gigabit Ethernet, even on two channels, but for someone who wants a standalone workstation this looks like a recipe for an awful lot of boxes on and around your desk.

And the jury is going to be out anyway until we see what the flash-only storage makes it cost, and what, if any, implications there are of only having four RAM slots.
 
How about cutting costs and passing the savings off to clients who know how to use the 'interwebz' (as you said it) and don't care as much for great packaging and neat appearances?

"Interwebz" was a quote to the young adult who tried to make a point. The point we are making is that it is impossible to send 25-50GB's of HD work to clients when they simply request a BD. In addition to wireless media lacking support for full 1080P, 54+Mbps data, DTS, Blu-Ray media surpasses anything currently on the market. Wait until 4K comes along.

I suppose we should give our clients HDD's, as ODD media is clearly out of the question for some of you. Not for those who make a living on film/video work.
 
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