Apple Offers Developers a Closer Look at the New Mac Pro

[firedownunder]

The size of an iPad (HxW anyway) and way more powerful than the current pro. I'm not a "power/professional" user, but I know my time is more valuable than a few inches of desktop. Seems some have their priorities out of whack. Maybe wait for all the facts before jumping off the nearest bridge?

 

[iSayuSay]

Eventually your clients will want you to join them in 2013.

How about cutting costs and passing the savings off to clients who know how to use the 'interwebz' (as you said it) and don't care as much for great packaging and neat appearances?

Bluray is still a nice media storage in 2013. It stores 50GB of data and it costs $5 a pop and the end result can be enjoyed directly. Even a decent 64GB flashdrive costs $40 nowadays. That's 8x more and it's not as secure as it's a rewritable media. Or you would give 500GB external hard drive to each of them? Suit yourself.

If your final works sized 20GB or 30GB, you would give a link and tell your client to download it themselves? Even if it could, is it fast, cheap or efficient enough to do? Most importantly, is it proper?

 

[wovel]

Anyone can say (and lie) "I'm a professional video editor" these days. It means NOTHING. All these YouTube "V-loggers" are, apparently, "professionals"... LOL


With SO many "professionals" out there, quality must be VERY diluted. Here's what happens:

1/ Person buys Mac Pro and associated kit

2/ Person sets up Mac and buys a video camera

3/ Person learns "Wedding movies for Dummies"

4/ Person builds (?) a "Professional" website (A Facebook page/a blog = free... LOL)

5/ Person advertises "Professional videos for any occasion", and from then on, expects everyone to address them as Mr or Mrs "Professional".


Summary: Any consumer can buy ALL this stuff, and claim to be a "professional" - remember, even consumers have £10-20,000 spare in many cases. They feel that they HAVE to convince others they are "Professionals" to justify their outlay - it means nothing to say of yourself "I am a professional" ... yeah, a professional BLAGGER!

I know your right. I just try to take people at their eord. I have spent a fair number of years building workstation and server environments and the arguments in this thread are baffling. Most of these "Professionals" clearly have no experience with workstation environments.

You could do so e interesting things with this system in a large workstation environment.

 

[Zwhaler]

I like having my HDDs in the computer. I don't see any HDD bays in there so that means external storage only (talking about real storage not little 2TB SSD clusters) sigh...

 

[winterspan]

Mental, if you guy's waiting for a new Pro aren't happy, then their is no helping you! This new machine is definitely a design classic!

Although it sure is beautiful, professionals are not looking for a "design classic".

 

[wovel]

Bluray is still a nice media storage in 2013. It stores 50GB of data and it costs $5 a pop and the end result can be enjoyed directly. Even a decent 64GB flashdrive costs $40 nowadays. That's 8x more and it's not as secure as it's a rewritable media.

If your final works sized 20GB or 30GB, you would give a link and tell your client to download it themselves? Even if it could, is it fast, cheap or efficient enough to do? Most importantly, is it proper?

So plug in a blue-ray drive. Really not that hard. If you need to hide all your cables in a OX, put it in a box.

 

[Zwhaler]

This may have been discussed already, I didn't read 13 previous pages, but I'm very excited about the change in PRO colors. It appears this unit is a very dark gun-metal grey and black.. which we can only expect to see soon in the next MBP. Awesome.. the aluminum look is almost over!

I can already see the new look becoming passe honestly.

 

[Arfdog]

How old are you? Are you serious? You do realize a Blu-Ray is anywhere from 25-50GB's. Sending my clients finished work via the "interwebz"?

God, you're a child, and I don't mean that as an insult, you clearly are young.

I doubt you know how old I am, but doesn't it feel stupid that you are probably much more immature in psyche than your actual age? since you went straight to personal attacks? Classy

Back to business, yes I just downloaded a 10 G file the other day at work from a coworker who took some video and vehicle data acquisition stuff. Over our 100 mpbs ethernet. Took about 2-5 min I think? Dunno, I went for coffee.

How long does it take you to burn a 50 GB BR, physically send it, and have it physically received again?

 

[Xiroteus]

It's certainly not change "for change's sake". That's just an ignorant statement. This machine is MUCH more energy efficient, obviously space-efficient, is multiples faster than the outgoing Mac Pro, has a litany of Thunderbolt ports, I mean what kind of fool statement is that?

No this is not a utilitarian machine. That market is reserved for Windows PC's, and Apple decided a while ago they'd rather stay at the forefront of electronic, ergonomic and mechanical design, not make boxes.

I was referring to just the design. They could have options and or had a lot of what some are looking for in a bit larger form factor, however Apple is strongly about design to the point of being less functional. The only real issue I have with it is no optical drive (a must for a desktop machine) The power looks fine from what was talked about, a possible issue with needing more internal storage.

So plug in a blue-ray drive. Really not that hard. If you need to hide all your cables in a OX, put it in a box.

For those who want it they want it internal on a desktop.

 

[therockyroad]

Hey you over there - come back here with those prototypes!

 

[Zwhaler]

Although it sure is beautiful, professionals are not looking for a "design classic".

Thank you! I think most pros wanted something like the current design but with 4 more HDD bays and another PCI slot with improved cooling and Blu Ray... nothing like what Apple wants for us LOL

 

[wovel]

I like having my HDDs in the computer. I don't see any HDD bays in there so that means external storage only (talking about real storage not little 2TB SSD clusters) sigh...

Most of the target audience will be looking at needing more than 4 disks of storage, that is why it is a lot more practical to do externally.

 

[iMikeT]

The new Mac Pro will definitely be my next upgrade perhaps 4-5 years from now when my 2011 27" iMac will be barely chugging along. I may or may not use the iMac as a display but I expect 4K displays to be affordable in 4-5 years. I also hope this doesn't cost an arm and a leg considering how stripped down it is.

 

[xnu]

Apple is full of geniuses. We are all talking about the new MacPro, the best, the worst... But what great press... Never gave us a price... wow, so we will sit here and discuss it for months... I love it. Great presentation too, JJ Abrams lens flare and all. I have to say I enjoyed it from beginning to end... just try to sit through a Google or Microsoft event.. I dare you...

This tower is daring, I like it.... Apple hasn't lost a step.... They never make the perfect product for everyone, but that thing is pretty damn good. Pushing technology forward isn't comfortable, but then we would all be using horizontal desktops, disks, and zip drives.

I predict they will also keep the existing MacPro in some configuration for awhile... Not sure why they added support for Nvidia Cards if they don't have a product you can put them into... So maybe they will discount the current MacPro... which isn't a bad computer for certain tasks at the right price.

Is the new MacPro going to more or less expensive? Current MacPro or PC towers have a ton of Fans, Hard disks, Large Power supply, Expansion slots, a case 8 times bigger.... Sure the processor, memory, and graphics are costly, but is this a $2500 machine in the base configuration or a $4500 machine? And can the current MacPro slip to the $1500 to $2000 range.... So many questions.. so much marketing... well done Apple, well done.

 

[cclloyd]

So if you want more graphics power than is already in there, you have to use the thunderbolt?

 

[Zwhaler]

Most of the target audience will be looking at needing more than 4 disks of storage, that is why it is a lot more practical to do externally.

This is true especially, but it sure is nice to have 32TB onboard storage, makes the computer feel self contained.

 

[Wild-Bill]

Hey you over there - come back here with those prototypes!

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I am wiping the tears of laughter away. That was a BRILLIANT spot, eagle-eyes!! Great post!

 

[cgsnipinva]

There seems to be a lot of coo-cooing over the look of it, not a big fan of it myself but I think they missed the point of the Mac Pro when they created that Mac iCan. Power users generally want a self contained unit with internal expandability, not some spinning top that they can spin round just to get at the back cables that they will have to plug all their bloody devices into. If this ****** was internal we wouldn't have to spin it around to start with. I think they were so concerned with innovating, they kind of lost the plot on what the Mac Pro is, which is a pure out and out workhorse.

However, if you look at how much processing power, memory, and storage comes in that "can" you might not need to add much externally.

 

[donutbagel]

Uh... Where the heck are the PCI slots???

 

[3282868]

I doubt you know how old I am, but doesn't it feel stupid that you are probably much more immature in psyche than your actual age? since you went straight to personal attacks? Classy

Back to business, yes I just downloaded a 10 G file the other day at work from a coworker who took some video and vehicle data acquisition stuff. Over our 100 mpbs ethernet. Took about 2-5 min I think? Dunno, I went for coffee.

How long does it take you to burn a 50 GB BR, physically send it, and have it physically received again?

This coming from the person who has been commenting to others in a disrespectful manner, hence my pertinent question. Deflecting is usually a sign of guilt/hitting a nerve, you must be young.

As for your question, a 10GB file, good for you. Try sending Blu-RayS, that's an "s", to clients. 100+ GB's a project. Then ask those clients, most who don't have high speed access, to download all that data. As other have pointed out, you do not send finished projects to clients via Dropbox unless you don't want repeat business.

We're done here. Take care

 

[bingeciren]

Darth Wader's personal R2D2

Joke aside, it is a very good engineering design. Short paths for interconnecting components and a clever stack design for the air flow.

We will eventually get used to the looks.

 

[Mactendo]

What the heck are you talking about?

This 'tube' is not Cube, don't even try to compare. I own Cube and it's one of the most beautiful Apple machines.

 

[xcodeaddict]

I doubt you know how old I am, but doesn't it feel stupid that you are probably much more immature in psyche than your actual age? since you went straight to personal attacks? Classy

Back to business, yes I just downloaded a 10 G file the other day at work from a coworker who took some video and vehicle data acquisition stuff. Over our 100 mpbs ethernet. Took about 2-5 min I think? Dunno, I went for coffee.

How long does it take you to burn a 50 GB BR, physically send it, and have it physically received again?

People still like PHYSICAL THINGS - have you not realised that? Would you like a digital meal? A digital PET? A physical DISC still hasn't been replaced with something virtual that evokes the same response and emotional gratification. It means something to own PHYSICAL things and interact with them.

Would you like to drive to the beach in a virtual car, for a virtual day out?

 

[iSayuSay]

I doubt you know how old I am, but doesn't it feel stupid that you are probably much more immature in psyche than your actual age? since you went straight to personal attacks? Classy

Back to business, yes I just downloaded a 10 G file the other day at work from a coworker who took some video and vehicle data acquisition stuff. Over our 100 mpbs ethernet. Took about 2-5 min I think? Dunno, I went for coffee.

How long does it take you to burn a 50 GB BR, physically send it, and have it physically received again?

Assuming all human beings on planet earth connected to 100Mbps connection.

Assuming all computers on earth has unlimited power resources
Assuming all robots can do all human's job.

Because you can do this and that, you assume everyone else can .. so typical.
And you assume everyone on earth has Thunderbolt and uses Mac too? Nice
Assume assume assume .. that's what ignorants do

Here is a fun fact: Assuming everyone can do what you do, we don't really need you .. like at all

 

[Mal67]

Wouldn't mind seeing some mockups as to how they envisage this would look in a business environment with externals attached. At least with the old pro you would add on internally. Still design looks great. Something similar for the mini would be fantastic.