Apple Offers Developers a Closer Look at the New Mac Pro

[xSinghx]

This is fantastical!

Anyone who wants to complain can go get a big 'ole PC tower, stay old school, and quit wining!

I think you mean whining. Don't miss your english class next period.

 

[i.mac]

. I don't need an ashtray-looking black cylinder and a strange, tall, white box sitting on my desk to show that I'm part of the really cool new paradigm crowd.

No Mac Pro for you!

 

[WhyWhyWhyWhy]

Mac Pro = Darth Vader's piss pot

Let's face it, this object looks ridiculous...

 

[portishead]

If an entry level model prices at 2K, I will get this next year. Based on the components costs, can anyone guess what it might price out at?

Yup same here. I think I've heard the graphics cards cost like $2k or something though. It's probably overkill for me, I'm hoping there's a lower end option.

 

[TheUndertow]

Expect a third party transparent case. I know I wouldn't want to hide those beautiful internals.

They should have a clear model/option...seriously.

If I were one to "reach". it would suggest the color of the MacPro suggests a darker shaded (liquid metal?!) upcoming MBP?

 

[portishead]

Let's face it, this object looks ridiculous...

I think it looks awesome. It makes sense for venting also.

 

[xSinghx]

Look! It's the Mac Pro X! Just what everyone wanted - a smaller, lighter stationary computer that is only expandable via an expensive cable that no one supports.

We need tools, not shiny cases. I need expandability, not a table cluttered in expensive cables that don't plug into anything. I don't need a smaller, lighter stationary computer. I need more places to put hard drives, video cards and ram as I can afford it. I need a disk drive. Apple is killing me. For what I needed, wanted and waited patiently for so long for - I got not one single thing I can use. I understand trying to be innovative if they've found a new way to make an old tool better - but changing things we've all come to know, love and need into something useless and unrecognizable just for the sake of change is exasperating (see; Final Cut X). Sure, it's pretty. It'll look great under a table every time I accidentally kick it or get my foot tangled up in one of the 20 cables laying in a rat's nest next to it. Looking forward to the clutter of hard drive caddies, a RedRocket card enclosure, the bare LG BluRay writer tethered via a USB cable, the adapter array full of FireWire ports to access cameras and drives containing legacy projects…oh, wait, never mind. It also just occurred to me - how am I going to mount that thing in a rack??? How is any of this going to attach to shared storage when I'm gonna have to wait 2 years for a 3rd party to invent an impossibly expensive Fibre channel adapter? Seriously, does anyone there actually use these products when they're designing them or listen to customers - or do they look at the suggestion cards and do the opposite???

Not that any of this really matters because without a working version of Final Cut, I don't need one anyway. So, thanks for saving me a bunch of money I guess? 3 - 4K monitors. For who??? The high school students using FCPX won't be able to afford it, nor will they need that much real-estate to edit YouTube videos.

God help Apple this is a disaster. They do know 'Pro' is short for 'professional' right?

I'm so depressed. I waited for 5 years to get nothing I can use or wanted.

Couldn't agree more.

At this point Apple making a product that professionals ask for & want would be true innovation. This is Final Cut Pro X all over again.

 

[PeteJames]

I like the pictures of it without the cover. Looks like a little robot. I'd like a clear cover option. By my estimates the top of the range with be nearly 16x more powerful than my current computer. That is pretty staggering. I don't think I'd need to upgrade from that for pro audio for a very very long time.

 

[nagromme]

I'm reminded of the 2nd-grade mentality of those who forgot about...

Mouse pads
Keypads
Gamepads
Trackpads
Control pads
Star Trekk PADDs
Sketch pads
and notepads...

And made fun of the name "iPad" because it has "pad" in it

Let me guess... if the new Mac Pro were shaped like a cube, people would laugh at all the cubes (including Apple's) that it looks like. If it were shaped like a wedge, it would be Black Cheese Ha Ha. No matter what it looked like, it would look something else. And no matter what, I imagine, some people wouldn't be happy unless it looked like a cheap electric heater a la Dell?

To lay the matter to rest: this does NOT look like a garbage can anymore than any cylinder (a fundamental, common shape) does. It DOES look a bit like a shopping mall ashtray--a very small, very minimal, pure black one with illuminated ports and a lot of gigaflops. Which you never need to look at or hold.

I think it looks awesome. It makes sense for venting also.

Also, judging from these forums, what "pros" love most is venting

 

[a.gomez]

Look! It's the Mac Pro X! Just what everyone wanted - a smaller, lighter stationary computer that is only expandable via an expensive cable that no one supports.

We need tools, not shiny cases. I need expandability, not a table cluttered in expensive cables that don't plug into anything. I don't need a smaller, lighter stationary computer. I need more places to put hard drives, video cards and ram as I can afford it. I need a disk drive. Apple is killing me. For what I needed, wanted and waited patiently for so long for - I got not one single thing I can use. I understand trying to be innovative if they've found a new way to make an old tool better - but changing things we've all come to know, love and need into something useless and unrecognizable just for the sake of change is exasperating (see; Final Cut X). Sure, it's pretty. It'll look great under a table every time I accidentally kick it or get my foot tangled up in one of the 20 cables laying in a rat's nest next to it. Looking forward to the clutter of hard drive caddies, a RedRocket card enclosure, the bare LG BluRay writer tethered via a USB cable, the adapter array full of FireWire ports to access cameras and drives containing legacy projects…oh, wait, never mind. It also just occurred to me - how am I going to mount that thing in a rack??? How is any of this going to attach to shared storage when I'm gonna have to wait 2 years for a 3rd party to invent an impossibly expensive Fibre channel adapter? Seriously, does anyone there actually use these products when they're designing them or listen to customers - or do they look at the suggestion cards and do the opposite???

Not that any of this really matters because without a working version of Final Cut, I don't need one anyway. So, thanks for saving me a bunch of money I guess? 3 - 4K monitors. For who??? The high school students using FCPX won't be able to afford it, nor will they need that much real-estate to edit YouTube videos.

God help Apple this is a disaster. They do know 'Pro' is short for 'professional' right?

I'm so depressed. I waited for 5 years to get nothing I can use or wanted.

yep - time to take better care of my old one... and if you don't have one, get one before they vanish- just like the 17ich macbooks last year.

 

[esquared]

Cables

Funny how all of a sudden everyone is concerned about cables. If you're a pro user and you don't have a bunch of cables dotting the horizon of your desk, you might not be a pro. There are NEVER enough ports or slots for a pro user, deal with it, Pro's do.

 

[z3r0]

Will the new Mac Pro fit inside the current Mac Pro Enclosure?

 

[kal101]

I don't need an ashtray-looking black cylinder and a strange, tall, white box sitting on my desk

 

[AZREOSpecialist]

Is there a CD drive?

You're clearly joking, right?

 

[69650]

Look! It's the Mac Pro X! Just what everyone wanted - a smaller, lighter stationary computer that is only expandable via an expensive cable that no one supports.

We need tools, not shiny cases. I need expandability, not a table cluttered in expensive cables that don't plug into anything. I don't need a smaller, lighter stationary computer. I need more places to put hard drives, video cards and ram as I can afford it. I need a disk drive. Apple is killing me. For what I needed, wanted and waited patiently for so long for - I got not one single thing I can use. I understand trying to be innovative if they've found a new way to make an old tool better - but changing things we've all come to know, love and need into something useless and unrecognizable just for the sake of change is exasperating (see; Final Cut X). Sure, it's pretty. It'll look great under a table every time I accidentally kick it or get my foot tangled up in one of the 20 cables laying in a rat's nest next to it. Looking forward to the clutter of hard drive caddies, a RedRocket card enclosure, the bare LG BluRay writer tethered via a USB cable, the adapter array full of FireWire ports to access cameras and drives containing legacy projects…oh, wait, never mind. It also just occurred to me - how am I going to mount that thing in a rack??? How is any of this going to attach to shared storage when I'm gonna have to wait 2 years for a 3rd party to invent an impossibly expensive Fibre channel adapter? Seriously, does anyone there actually use these products when they're designing them or listen to customers - or do they look at the suggestion cards and do the opposite???

Not that any of this really matters because without a working version of Final Cut, I don't need one anyway. So, thanks for saving me a bunch of money I guess? 3 - 4K monitors. For who??? The high school students using FCPX won't be able to afford it, nor will they need that much real-estate to edit YouTube videos.

God help Apple this is a disaster. They do know 'Pro' is short for 'professional' right?

I'm so depressed. I waited for 5 years to get nothing I can use or wanted.

Basically you want an updated version of what you already have. I can understand that but you should know by now that standing still is not what Apple is all about. They are about pushing the boundaries. Moving away from legacy systems towards the next generation of computing.

I think you are confusing "pro" users with "corporate" users. This thing is targeted at graphic designers, video editors, photographers, musicians, etc. It's not meant to sit in a rack, it's meant to sit on your desk. It's not a corporate server sitting in the back office. It's meant to sit on your desk so you can plug in all the peripherals you need to on your desk.

I think they've looked at who is buying the Mac Pro and what they need rather than try to compete with the multitude of infinitely cheaper Windows and Unix based servers and workstations out there. They've simply chosen to focus on a particular part of the pro market.

 

[AZREOSpecialist]

I kinda like it and then I don't. It's nothing more than a mini on steroids.

If that's what you think, you've missed the whole point.

 

[zackkmac]

Wasn't the current Mac Pro design released way before 2010? It resembles a G5 tower to me which was even farther back. I don't recall the Mac Pro having a significant design change in 2010...it's been a lot longer than that since the Mac Pro has looked any different.

 

[3282868]

Cannot read your post. No ofense. To much pseudo-philosophy that sounds like noise...

Am I supposed to be offended? If you can't read it, how do you know if it is "pseudo" anything? I don't think you know the meaning of "philosophy" because if you think I was attempting to be philosophical about comments regarding electronics, college didn't help you much kid.

 

[Blu Reel]

Couldn't agree more.

At this point Apple making a product that professionals ask for & want would be true innovation. This is Final Cut Pro X all over again.

What was nice about Final Cut Pro X was the price cut. $1299 down to $299. By extension of your logic, I could infer that the new Mac Pro should have a similar price cut

 

[fastlanephil]

It should have excellent heat dissipation. It's similar in design to the popular tubular Kerosun heater.

 

[wildmac]

It all really comes down to two things....

The cost of the unit itself, and the cost to expand it.

I fear that even the base model is going to be $4500, unless they really dumb down the graphics, in which case I'm not sure I'd want it.

What's their audience for this anyway? I think they are going to chase away the home users simply on price.

 

[Will do good]

See, it's aluminum. Happy now, people who don't read the description before posting?

This thing is really cool. I'm not a pro user, but Apple really innovated on this one. I'm still not seeing how this looks like a trash can.

I agreed with you. Most people has no taste and just like to bitch mike little girls.

 

[steve_hill4]

Do you people not read anything Apple has posted on their site BEFORE opining?

Some are too urgent to vent their spleens.

 

[AZREOSpecialist]

I'm so depressed. I waited for 5 years to get nothing I can use or wanted.

I had to delete the rest of your nonsense message because it really did make you look like a child. If this radical re-thinking of the desktop PC depresses you and offers you nothing you can use or want, clearly you need to move on and get a Dell, HP or whatever else you actually do find interesting.

I also suspect that you are not a very forward thinking person.

 

[wildmac]

Basically you want an updated version of what you already have. I can understand that but you should know by now that standing still is not what Apple is all about. They are about pushing the boundaries. Moving away from legacy systems towards the next generation of computing.

I think you are confusing "pro" users with "corporate" users. This thing is targeted at graphic designers, video editors, photographers, musicians, etc. It's not meant to sit in a rack, it's meant to sit on your desk. It's not a corporate server sitting in the back office. It's meant to sit on your desk so you can plug in all the peripherals you need to on your desk.

I think they've looked at who is buying the Mac Pro and what they need rather than try to compete with the multitude of infinitely cheaper Windows and Unix based servers and workstations out there. They've simply chosen to focus on a particular part of the pro market.

Except it's going to be so hideously expensive... to buy and to expand.

I'm guessing $4500 base model.

The really annoying thing is the GPUs are engineering GPUs, meant for rendering and such, and not necessarily great for video and other graphics work. Apple's gonna need some real work on those drivers to get them performing well for everything else.