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Audiobooks on iPad

A little off topic, but in playing around with Podcasts I am realizing I cannot find audiobooks on iPad 2 under iOS6 beta 2. They are in still in Music on my phone but I can't find them anywhere on iPad.
Another sign of another thing they are removing from iTunes?
 
Is it me or is this app useless if it doesn't sync subscriptions and downloads? If I set up 5 subscriptions on my iPad, why would I want to go through all that work to get those on my iPhone?
 
For those that took one glance at this then swore to never use or download it again and ran back to Downcast....

Why not run them in parallel like a good admin does? No one said you have to commit right now. And when set to stream episodes only then your storage isn't being scarified and you'll give yourself a chance to see if you like one more than the other. jmtc

Sorry, I just get annoyed when people make quick judgements. Like at a restaurant when you order one bad item and dismiss the entire restaurant forever.
 
Is it me or is this app useless if it doesn't sync subscriptions and downloads? If I set up 5 subscriptions on my iPad, why would I want to go through all that work to get those on my iPhone?

Exactly. I don't know why they wouldn't at least include it as an option. To top it off, it kicks you out of the catalog every time you subscribe to a new podcasts, which makes the process of adding a long list of subscriptions even longer on multiple devices. Hopefully these things are addressed in an update.

In my limited testing so far, I have not been able to get the position syncing to work. Though, that feature was flaking out for me in Downcast the past few weeks as well. Does anyone know if there is a trick to get it to working?
 
The skeuomorphic controls are horrible. Setting up your subscriptions initially is painful - I've got to go through every podcast, clicking subscribe, then clicking auto-download (really???), then clicking how many I want to keep back down to a sensible level? And I can't even "add all" of my existing episodes?

Urgh.

That said, it will be worth it I suppose if background downloads actually work here.
 
Is it me or is this app useless if it doesn't sync subscriptions and downloads? If I set up 5 subscriptions on my iPad, why would I want to go through all that work to get those on my iPhone?

I'm not sure how a few minutes of setup makes it useless. It's a good feature request. Personally, I don't want the same subscription and downloads on all my devices. But if they could add a feature to let me indicate which podcasts I do want on all my devices, that would be great.

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That said, it will be worth it I suppose if background downloads actually work here.

"Auto Download allows you to automatically download new podcast episodes as they become available while the Podcasts app is running."

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5295
 
Rationalising? Nope, sorry. This is something I genuinely believe after a decade+ of creating and supporting bespoke software for non-technical people to use. The more you can simplify things the more likely they are to discover features for themselves. It's an approach that's clearly visible throughout iOS, especially on the iPhone. Apps tend to do one main task and that's it. Heck they've had Music and Video split for a long time now so this isn't really anything new at all.

You're talking about integration and finding 'creative ways' to do that... this is EXACTLY what Apple just did! They are approaching this from the point of view (rightly IMO although that is of course just my opinion) that the homescreen is the first level of any application. They've effectively moved Podcasts two levels up and allowing users to find it far more easily than the old location in the 'more' menu within music. Hell, if you want to group it with music put it in a folder, Podcasts are no further away in terms of taps than they would be on one of the four shortcut options within the music app itself!

Ultimately, and a quick read through this thread tends to support this theory, I'd expect the geeks to not like this change as they are used to information dense software that they can customise and tweak to their precise needs. That's fine, nothing wrong with that at all, but they're not the primary audience for this change. That's the vast number of non-technical users on iOS and I suspect that they will ultimately benefit from this change.

You are missing my point though. Apple has around 20 apps of their own, plus another 5-6 paid ones to buy that most users will (iwork, imovie etc.), that's 26 apps for a user to pick from, add to that another 50 apps at the very least each user will have on their ipad (don't make go over them :) I am sure you 'd agree another 50 apps is the minimum almost all will have) . Now podcasts aren't a really established medium, ok for some of us they 've been around so long we know, love and use them, but I am talking about most people. What's easier?

To make a well designed (and not the crap that's currently the music app), and I mean well designed in every sense, forward looking with some of the great stylings app store apps have that are inventive, ipod app including podcasts and audiobooks so the user get acquainted with them, and reminds themselves that there is such a thing as podcasts most everytime they go to ipod/itunes or make a separate one to get lost amongst the tons of apps each one uses?

To me the answer simple a separate podcast app will get be put by most people in an "apple" titled folder and never be used by anyone not already into podcasts, some might go, hmmm, what's that? I might check it out later, and never end up using it.

Splitting things up is not the point, there's no point to have an itunes u app, a podcast one, a vid one, a music one (well music one could be alone), an audiobook one, then a notes app, a reminders, a contacts, a calendar... The point is to integrate them well in the os. Apple just splits them out into deadly uninspired in looks single apps and thinks they have solved their problem.

Back when there was itunes on the ipad, I used to go there, and say, oh lets check some of my itunes u for something interesting, maybe a podcast, an audiobook. Now I have to go to 3-4 separate apps to do that, and for what? What's the point of that?
 
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I've been anxiously waiting to be able to subscribe directly to my device (not enough to test 3rd party apps), so I welcome the app.

That said, things I hope they add:

Ability to rate episodes (and add setting not to delete rated podcasts)
Smart playlist support
Chapter support (I haven't tested this yet, but doubt it's included)

Still, I hope (and doubt) the music app will keep podcast support so the new app can handle subscriptions but I can continue using smart playlists, ratings and manual, delete to manage my files. Thankfully, so far the music app itself is unaffected in my iPod.
 
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The skeuomorphic controls are horrible. Setting up your subscriptions initially is painful - I've got to go through every podcast, clicking subscribe, then clicking auto-download (really???), then clicking how many I want to keep back down to a sensible level? And I can't even "add all" of my existing episodes?

Urgh.

That said, it will be worth it I suppose if background downloads actually work here.

What was the last app apple designed that people said it's a great design? Boy I love what they did here. At best people have been lukewarm, most often just critical and unhappy. But I don't remember what the last free app was that people went, that's great, I love the interface, it looks good, it's enabling to the user.

Even Ive dissociated himself with the poor skeumorphic design on the ipad (skeumorphism isn't bad in itself, it's the lack of imagination and wisdom in doing it that's bad, eg. how should contacts look on os x (and calendar) slap in there what we've been doing for the ipad (a touch device), how should music look, do an old player kind of design...that's all hardly inspiring - do they even look at some of the greatness their own app store has???), that's all lowest common denominator stuff, and it's not what we've come to expect of apple...of Tim Cook's apple maybe, but not of the apple that got to the point of being run by Tim Cook.
 
I can't seem to understand how Apple didn't include subscription syncing via their own iCloud service in this release. And playback syncing appears to be very flaky as well based on reports from people around the 'net.
 
I've been anxiously waiting to be able to subscribe directly to my device (not enough to test 3rd party apps), so I welcome the app.

That said, things I hope they add:

Ability to manually delete
Ability to rate episodes (and add setting not to delete rated podcasts)
Podcast notes support (for show notes)
Smart playlist support
Chapter support (I haven't tested this yet, but doubt it's included)

They ve still not added any of that?:confused::confused:

They released a podcast app that you can't rate podcasts, support show notes, and have some smart playlist functionality or manually delete???

Unbelievable... maybe in a year when they update it we 'll be actually able to read show notes and rate our podcasts so we know our favorites to listen to again...:rolleyes:
 
It sounds silly but I hate that something called 'iTunes' manages apps, podcasts, movies and TV, as well as music.
There are a lot of podcasts which are 90% music. Grouping them with, ahm, actual music makes a lot of sense. But spoken podcasts (either news programmes or discussion shows) fit less well with music.
 
For the life of me I can't get this new app to sync with iTunes on my Mac...played/unplayed status, position within podcast, nothing. But if I download an episode in the app and DON'T have it on my mac, it will transfer the file over...but that's where the syncing ends.

This is a deal breaker for me. I need to be able to sync the played position between when i listen in my car during my commutes back home to my mac when i pick the episodes back up at home.
 
I wish there was support for non-itunes podcasts. A local radio station here releases all their shows, but I can't do it unless I'm connected to the PC and transfer them via itunes.
Do the other podcast clients support that radio station's podcasts?
 
They ve still not added any of that?:confused::confused:

They released a podcast app that you can't rate podcasts, support show notes, and have some smart playlist functionality or manually delete???

Unbelievable... maybe in a year when they update it we 'll be actually able to read show notes and rate our podcasts so we know our favorites to listen to again...:rolleyes:

Two corrections to my original post you're responding to:
You can manually delete (another poster pointed this out to me)
Notes can be accesses using the "I" button in list view... I was looking for the old artwork overlay.
 
I'm not sure how a few minutes of setup makes it useless. It's a good feature request. Personally, I don't want the same subscription and downloads on all my devices. But if they could add a feature to let me indicate which podcasts I do want on all my devices, that would be great.

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"Auto Download allows you to automatically download new podcast episodes as they become available while the Podcasts app is running."

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5295

What happens when I'm out of wifi and decide to play a podcast..... auto download could then blow away my wireless bill.
 
When I attempt to delete a podcast subscription it goes away temporarily, but it returns after I switch to another app then come back to Podcasts.app.

EDIT: Maybe it's just an issue with that particular subscription.
 
From Apple's support pages...

Note: Subscribing to a podcast using your device will not subscribe you to that podcast on your computer or other iOS devices.

Playback Sync automatically allows you to sync your playback position to all of your iOS devices with the Podcasts app installed, using your Apple ID. In order for Playback Sync to sync your playback position, you must be signed in to the iTunes Store using the same Apple ID on your iOS devices.


A useful feature missing which Downcast now handles very well.
Yes and no. I would want to control which podcasts appear on which of my devices (eg, video podcasts on my iPad and audio podcasts on my iPhone). I would not want a new podcast to appear on all of my devices without being asked first.
 
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