Apple Offers Sneak Peek of Completely Redesigned Mac Pro

[yucate]

OMG -- FINALLY WE KNOW IT. ****IN DARTH VADER HAD A MACPRO WHEN HE WAS YOUNG.........

 

[andrew78]

do your research, it's aluminum

Made out of plastic? Seriously?

nope.

http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

 

[inscrewtable]

Angry Birds will absolutely fly.

 

[chumpy34]

I prefer the new mac Pro naked

TMI

 

[lilo777]

Because:

1) It's small
2) Although the current one has lots of slots, I barely used them.
3) Storage is much easier to handle when it's pluggable anyways.
External enclosures or RAID's are getting cheaper and better
4) The only thing you might upgrade is RAM and you still can do that.
5) The days of big towers is over. Long over.

I'll buy one if Apple is not screwing me on the SSD options.
I own a MacPro 3,1 (2008), I still love it except for graphics,
but Apple has never offered reasonable upgrades.

Meaning: Buy the latest stuff and forget about the money as quickly as possible.

Funny. 1) and 5) are obviously the same. Current Mac Pro form factor can do 2), 3) and 4) as good as the new one or better. What exactly is the benefit of this new design? I'd say there is none. Box size is such a none factor for most professional users (you are not a professional if you can't afford a real desk) and even all desktop users in general.

 

[rhett7660]

Okay. I think it's georgeus.

But - It lacks the real power of a PRO desktop! Where do I put my four internal HDD's? My three PCI graphic cards? My internal RAID card? And so on...
I don't want external things on my working area!

They could have made it twice the size and it would still be a delicious piece of equipment.

Now I'm just disappointed...

From Apple:

Traditionally, pro computers have relied primarily on the CPU for their computing power. But as GPU performance has dramatically increased, software developers have begun to leverage that power in their apps. With the new Mac Pro, we looked ahead and engineered an even more powerful GPU architecture. Not only does it feature a state-of-the-art AMD FirePro workstation-class GPU with up to 6GB of dedicated VRAM — it features two of them. With all that power, you’ll be able to do things like seamlessly edit full-resolution 4K video while simultaneously rendering effects in the background — and still have enough power to connect up to three high-resolution 4K displays.

These won't do?

 

[Philter]

What drug are you one ? You need to change medications. This thing will beat any hackintosh at any task.

How about the task of being a good value for what it's needed for? Every "pro" I know is careful with their money. That's how they stay in business. I can't imagine a "pro" paying a price premium for cosmetics when the fundamental unit is so messed up (no PCI slots in a pro workstation? Give me a break.)

This is not a "pro" machine. It's another iGadget aimed at people playing at being "pros." Pros actually need gear that you know, works.

 

[JHankwitz]

It's obviously going to depend heavily on Thunderbolt peripherals, enabling easy custom configuration and lower initial base pricing.

 

[AdamSeen]

32GB modules have been up since 2012, and Xeons support more than 200GB per CPU.


Workstation GPU's do just fine with games. Two FireHD GPU's will be faster than 680mx. They just won't beat a dual Titan setup.

Great - It's making the idea of it so much more tempting!

 

[iBug2]

How about the task of being a good value for what it's needed for? Every "pro" I know is careful with their money. That's how they stay in business. I can't imagine a "pro" paying a price premium for cosmetics when the fundamental unit is so messed up (no PCI slots in a pro workstation? Give me a break.)

This is not a "pro" machine. It's another iGadget aimed at people playing at being "pros." Pros actually need gear that you know, works.

lol

 

[Flaxxx]

New mac pro, looks nice. For me it's too bad they don't offer a "low cost" version with more consumer orriented internals like core i7 cpu instead to keep the cost lower

That's the Macmini, no?

 

[~Shard~]

This. I don't see the point of the tubular design unless it's designed to stop upgrading. I think the old design is really sweet looking.

I think it will help from a cooling perspective if nothing else...

 

[ma2ha3]

now i am very happy that it is assemble in USA.
I know it will be unreliable. But i do not care anymore.

There is no way in hell, i am going to buy that so call professional workstation that look like a flower vase.

A little black piece of ****.

 

[twoodcc]

about time! but i think it only has 1 intel processor?

 

[FoxMcCloud]

PCIe SSD! Oh my word this thing is gonna be fast. SATA3 pales in comparison.

And quad channel memory! Pros are gonna be happy!

pros these days use server based storage so limited internal is fine. I'm expecting 512gb standard. And some Mac peripherals for thunderbolt 2 HDDs.

 

[Peace]

How about the task of being a good value for what it's needed for? Every "pro" I know is careful with their money. That's how they stay in business. I can't imagine a "pro" paying a price premium for cosmetics when the fundamental unit is so messed up (no PCI slots in a pro workstation? Give me a break.)

This is not a "pro" machine. It's another iGadget aimed at people playing at being "pros." Pros actually need gear that you know, works.

You're not looking into the future. Forget the past.

The past is slow. The future is fast.

 

[quagmire]

nope.

http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

I repeat......

I posted that as soon as it was unveiled. The keynote didn't state the materials used. The dark CG pics made it look like plastic. Now that the information is up, I admit I was wrong.

 

[asdf072]

Made out of plastic? Seriously? Spend $1299 and get a nice aluminum iMac. $2499 gets me a plastic Mac Pro(predicting cost of the new Mac Pro)? Screw that.....

It's aluminum

 

[avkills]

The GPU costs around 3K alone. But maybe the baseline will use the cheapest FireHD GPU's, which still would put the base price well over 4K.

That's kind of what I have been getting at with the guys around the shop here.

But besides that it looks like they really thought outside the box on it. It also looks to be only a single socket design.

My guess is the graphics cards can be slid out pretty easily and replaced. The RAM is definitely user serviceable.

-mark

 

[Jst0rm]

OMG -- FINALLY WE KNOW IT. ****IN DARTH VADER HAD A MACPRO WHEN HE WAS YOUNG.........

It looks like darth vaders chamber pot

 

[12dylan34]

With one CPU? This thing doesn't look like a dual CPU design. I see only one CPU in the walkthrough.

Yeah, you might be right. Looking at the photos on Engadget, though, is it possible that there are two CPUs, each being in different sides of the triangle design (i.e. on separate boards)?

 

[zimv20]

well, i don't feel bad about buying a 6-core a year ago and running ProTools Native w/ it.

i now see that i also would have (probably) been okay waiting, since Avid offers a PT Native thunderbolt device.

the wildcards are the price of the new one vs my 6-core, and how much additional it would have cost me to hook up my 3 SATA hard-drives (now internal in my 6-core).

given that i've been using my system for a year, and will have probably another 6 months until this new pro is available, i'm not at all regretting my decision to get the 6-core.

form factor doesn't matter at all to me.

 

[Rocketman]

By pre-announcing the heavy reliance on TB2, by the time it is actually available in September or so, plenty of third parties will have developed external expansion for it.

The 802.11ac Airport Extreme is also a vertical tower. So there is some consistency, except for the square peg and round peg thing.

I already have an 802.11ac router in two locations, so am ready.

BTW it's approximately the form factor I predicted.

Rocketman

cites:

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=17355032&macpro#post17355032

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=16946215&macpro#post16946215

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=16761347&macpro#post16761347

 

[iZac]

I dont blame them for ditching "legacy" (yes I know 3.5" HDs and PCIe slots are not legacy) but couldn't they have just designed it like the G4 cube? or even one of the new airport extreme units? Can't say this thrills me at all.

But who knows, perhaps the expansion unit that Schiller vaguely mentioned will be a killer?

Even an iSight camera turned on its side wouldn't look like a bin.

EDIT: for future alien races that want to learn more about our culture and civilisation from my MacRumours posts, I would like to clarify that a day later, i'm becoming quite endeared to the design of this little machine.

 

[andrew78]

I hope the GPU's are upgradeable though.

I'm hoping soo too. The site looks like it maybe could happen. But until someone in the media gets their hands on one (or if apple tells us one way or the other) we won't know