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Apple Offers Sneak Peek of Completely Redesigned Mac Pro

JHankwitz said:
Finally, Apple has the gonads to step into the future and walk away from old fashon PCI slots and forcing users to buy components and features they'll never use. The ancients complained when Apple did away with the 5" floppy, the 3.5" floppy, and wouldn't even bother with Blu-ray. Apple remains on the leading edge of technology. If you want old, buy it from businesses still living in the past.
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You've obviously never done any kind of media content creation in your whole life. And no, I don't count photoshopping lion heads onto yourself.
 
its funny how people think

its funny how people think that the body is plastic when the Mac Pro clearly states

Machines Aluminium Enclosure
Refined impact extrusion technologies are more material-efficient and give the polished aluminum enclosure its incredible shape and finish.

so anyone who writes plastic can shut up.

and Apple can also shut up and take my money !
 
Personally I think it looks absolutely stunning but it isn't going to come cheap (you can probably get an iMac for the price of one of those video cards and there are 2 in there!) and assembling it in the USA is only going to add to the price.


I'd love to own one of these, but my needs (development) just don't justify this sort of power (and neither does my wallet :))
 
puckhead193 said:
...it looks like an urn
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lol, best "ugly" comment so far.

I personally thing that performance-wise, it looks like a good option. I just.... man I don't know if those thunderbolt-to-usb3.0 hubs or cables or whatever, or direct thunderbolt-connected storage will be cheap at all.

And, honestly, I'd rather be able to choose not to have tons of cables running around.

but, guys, we might get lucky, maybe some NAS connected directly via thunderbolt? you know, if it's actually affordable

but no matter what the cons are, at least they made one
 
mdriftmeyer said:
The GPGPUs alone would run you $3000.

The mentioned Streams of 4096 and maximum around 7TFLOPS of precision computing puts this combo at the FirePro S10000.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/work...ro-remote-graphics/S10000/Pages/S10000.aspx#3

That presently goes for $3,199 on Newegg.

With a completely different cooling solution and dual on-board GPGPUs with so many stream processors and high computing outputs one expects the 6GB DDR5 shared memory on this GCN 2.0 architecture that is most certainly a custom design for Apple.

Most likely this is the Orlando Team working with AMD on this project.

I agree, I don't see this System starting under $5000+.
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$3,199 for a single user buying a single card. Apple buys these by the cargo container full, pushing the price down.
 
Essenar said:
This Mac cannot feasibly have full PCI-Express slots for GPU's. That means it uses AMD's on board discrete GPU's. They are separate and have their own memory bus but make no mistake, they are not discrete cards.
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Perhaps these cards are not full length, because most of that is the cooling component for dedicated cards. The cooling component in the new Mac Pro "is the base for the machine", so the GPU cards do not need to be as big. Being as such, it is a double edged sword, since no updates will be floating around (if it is even possible) for quite some time.

I am going to bank on the idea that the CPU and GPU modules are going to be upgradeable in this new machine. This makes sense in a future-proofing way in that the core PSU and cooling is not being changed out, just the main components that will get faster, run cooler all the time.

-mark
 
When this new Mac Pro ends it's useful life, you can easily convert it into a fabulous wine bottle chiller. Do they still sell Boone's Farm apple wine?
 
Cube?

This reminds me of the cube - The new Mac Pro I hate it all ready. I might think otherwise is harddrives and graphic cards were user changeable. Lets see when its ready - I will start looking for a used Mac Pro :)
 
Not sure if there's multiple logic boards, but the one shown in the demo looks to just have one CPU socket.

macpro.jpg
 
So what happens to current Mac Pro's who have 4 internal 3.5" HDD's? Thunderbolt external enclosures? So HDD's will have to be PCIe 3 SSD's or chained to Thunderbolt/USB 3.0?

Otherwise, love HDMI, and hardware upgrades. I'm so so on the chassis. Would have preferred some more internal space for traditional HDD's and such, I don't need my tower to be so small.
 
SELlewellyn said:
@ quagmire..

Maybe you should get facts right before spouting off
"Refined impact extrusion technologies are more material-efficient and give the polished aluminum enclosure its incredible shape and finish."
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Tussen69 said:
its funny how people think that the body is plastic when the Mac Pro clearly states

Machines Aluminium Enclosure
Refined impact extrusion technologies are more material-efficient and give the polished aluminum enclosure its incredible shape and finish.

so anyone who writes plastic can shut up.

and Apple can also shut up and take my money !
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That info wasn't up yet when I originally posted that.... All we had was a dark CG pic that made the enclosure look like black plastic. Now that it was up, I've been stating I was wrong.
 
This looks more like a sub-woofer for my speakers that a Mac Pro tower.

And I guess I was wrong about Apple keeping the 4x HDDs option internal, maybe they figure pro users will just have a Thunderbolt external storage tower? and where is the DVD, $89 option I guess?

This is going to fire up the DVD debate again :rolleyes:
 
Meh, not sure how I feel about it. It looks awesome, and the specs are just insane, but a pro machine with just about zero upgradeability? The majority or professionals would probably prefer one box on their desk, not a tube with 30 thunderbolt-connected peripherals. Oh well, I'm not in the market for one, but it will be interesting to see how it works out :)

What I DO like is what is implied from it - 20 Gb/s thunderbolt and "all extension being external" might hint for some better support from apple for external GPU's, which would be a huge deal. Also, if it has one HDMI port and 6 TB ports, and supports "up to three 4k displays", I'd say an upcoming 4k TB display is a pretty safe bet. Can't wait!
 
JHankwitz said:
Apple remains on the leading edge of technology. If you want old, buy it from businesses still living in the past.
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Yeah it's all very well saying that, but guess what? The professional industry is dictated by the companies that provide equipment to that industry. And Apple is only the recipient of that.

They didn't add 4K support because they invented it. Apple added 4K support because that's what the industry is deciding.
 
Pleased and Impressed, Much Better than my best anticipations, with only exception there is no Rack-mount variant.

after Analyzing pictures and the few sneak peek material, ther are few thing not explicit:

  • CPU, obvious stand utpo 12 cores, that means upto 2x 6 Cores E5-EP
  • Memory, Still on STD DIMM ( god exist ), means upto 128 GB Ram When 32 Gb Stick Available at that Speed (now current 32GB ECC DDR3 costs 600$ ea).
  • Storage, look like they recycled rMBP SSD's, no internal Spinner HDD, controversial on a WorkStation, btw nothing to cry, just connect some thunderbolt storage, no way to verify until iFixIt do what they do (if they colect the 6000$ minimun the cheapest MP will cost).
  • GPU seems Upgradable, obvious Non STD PCIe, hope more options than Ati later (as Intel Xeon-Phy).
  • To consider: PSU, seems it uses an oversized DC-DC converter as notebooks use, that's expensive but efficient, but MAYBE NOT AS RELIABLE AS that Old Fashioned Switching PSU.
  • ....
  • NO CD/DVD ... Who Cares (Please If You are NO REAL PRO abstent to comment).
  • No FireWire? not really, get one Thunderbolt to FW800 adapter, 30$ at AppleStore.
  • No PCIe expansion ? What is For? Thundebolt offer more bandwidth than any Storage Rig can use, and if you still need some specific PCIe device (1/x) as few video capture cards, you can get an Thunderbolt to PCIe adapter, as http://www.magma.com/expressbox-3t later will be availabe better exansion box for TB2 with suppor for PCIe4x.
  • Expensive... yes, but not due US Assembly, EDGE Hardware is Expensive.
I have take apart few bucks (12000) to order mine... maybe I'll spend abit more, but seems all we must wait until January at least to put our hands on this Baby CYLON-MAC.
 
Rocketman said:
I think this is a sleeper media center PC with the native support for 3x 4K displays. Now where to plug them in . . . (802.11ac?)
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connections via thunderbolt, just like their current fancy thunderbolt display.

yeah, in the future, a non-thunderbolt solution might come up, similar to hdmi. but, honestly apple might make a breakthrough and get thunderbolt more mainstream. thunderbolt is intel, after all. People think it's Apple's, but the rights belong to Intel
 
Reminds me of Darth Vader's mask. Looks like a really cool release. Here's hoping it's not $2499.
 
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