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i'm sure this product has enough "innovations" to make this an excellent product but from an designing point of view, it looks awful.

Steve Jobs would never approve such an ugly design, especially since this is the first the Mac Pro will "sit" on your desktop.

bring the silver aluminum back yo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Jobs very much would have approved - it's simple, minimalist, compact, looks like art, and is powerful. It also keeps fiddling around inside the case to a minimum, which is why expandability is mostly external. Jobs likely saw mock-ups of this model before he died and would have given his input. If Ive had a role in its design, Jobs would have approved.
 
As a pro user this ticks all the boxes for an upgrade from my current Mac Pro.

Having 4 internal drives is an old way of thinking and in 2 years time we'll see the rise of computers being stored on TB drives, plugging into a machine and boot from OS instead of everything always having to be internal.

This is the way forward. Mass storage via Thunderbold is easy and fast, it might be expensive now but a product like this is a great step to reducing price and its for the pro user.. that has the money to spend for a professional environment.

Being able to pick up a BEAST of a machine and carry it into space without pulling your back out is unbelievably useful.

As for the aesthetics, who cares how it looks as long as its rugged.. and it'll undoubtably look amazing in real life, just like every other Apple product that people said was ugly until they saw it with their own eyes.

This is the kind of forward-thinking product I've been waiting for for a LONG TIME from Apple, I'm glad they won me back over with this.
 
This "garbage can" is a joke. Apple's 2013 Newton. Steve Jobs is most certainly rolling in is grave.


Three thumbs DOWN.

:confused: The Newton was ahead of its time and pushed out similarly and never worked really well as a result. But I wouldn't go so far to suggest it was a joke because it led to the Palm which led to the smartphone which led to the iPhone which led to all the other modern day smartphones and tablets.

How does this MP not work as advertised? Or not sure pro needs -- at least pros that are forward thinking. I'm pretty sure Steve Jobs is not rolling in his grave because it has his design philosophy signatures all over it.

Please explain how this machine is a joke when the highest end versions will likely match much larger workstations.
 
It's not merely "space shifting" if you have to pay likely thousands of dollars to get functionality back.

You don't have to pay it. You're not losing anything. It's a replacement of a previous product. Pricing isn't available. etc.
 
I'm not really the kind of person the mac pro is marketed to, so I have a simpleton's question.

Is the Flash memory in this beast being used as RAM and SSD in one? I'm not really seeing a difference in the pictures as to where is "RAM" and where is "Flash memory."

Edit: Or is there no internal storage at all?

All storage is external. Meaning, all the cards and flash you see in the system is strictly for ram, graphics memory and the like. Chances are it's a triangular prism with one side being the CPU and front bridge. The second side being the GPU's attached to a custom PCI-Express based adapter and the third side being maybe the other components of a main board? Ram and the like?

I think of it more as a professional grade vm-box.
 
Might be right. They haven't told about them yet. Officially.

I'm sorry if I was right, I was going with the models found from Intel's website.

But I'd still say it wouldn't be bad even with that way. Maybe better.

Yeah it's been leaked for a while that they will have 10 and 12-core models. :)
 
all you guys talking about expanding are stuck on old technology, with Thunderbolt 2, all these companies will be releasing insane modules to expand this all you want. External Thunderbolt 2 RAID storage arrays will transfer at higher speeds then your current internal setups on the mac pros', external DSP cards etc..... you will be able to do all you want and more when the time comes. The 3 4k monitor setup is also very nice.


Just hope theres new of a new Logic Pro
 
A+

This was the one item I really liked at WWDC today. Well, this and the iWork for iCloud. Was really impressed by the new Mac Pro.

OS X Mavericks, the horrid iOS 7 design, and the "all new" MacBook Air were completely underwhelming and signaling that Apple is dead without Jobs.
 
All the garbage can jokes aside.. I just don't see how something this small can contain the room for dual top tier CPUs, enterprise grade graphic cards and storage while still remaining thermally cool.

Also, some advanced editing suites require specific hardware that require back and or front panel access. Unless theres some kind of breakout box accessory that can be connected to this unit, I don't think this will replace all the functions of the existing Mac Pro.
 
It's obvious it's the right time for a cube form factor. This is basically the same size as a cube. I guess they didn't like to release a real cube because of historical reasons, but this is basically a (round) cube, so I'm very happy with it.
 
I think it only has 1 CPU and that its a new CPU that will be released later this year ..

as the website states "new-generation Intel Xeon E5 chipset. With configurations offering up to 12 cores of processing power"

for me I read it as a new chip

But also there is a line "new-generation Xeon processors"
and "processors" prefers to processors, not cores. They are tricky, and anything can come up. Maybe two 6-cores from the new generation. or up to 2 12-core processors?

Damn I hate this kind of releases, when they tell almost nothing.
 
Note time that was posted. Note when Apple.com went live with that information.........

Note the last few pages of me saying I was wrong.....

Shouldn't you have waited for the facts before assuming it was plastic and ranting about it?
 
I think it looks great, mainly because it's smaller. I use a pro at work and whilst it's great I much prefer a small form factor like this, you know this isn't 1997, big towers should be a thing of the past.
 
This is by far the most exciting piece of hardware they've released in ages. I am super excited to see one in person.
 
I think I like it, but I'm scared to find out how much it's gonna cost. I guess it was inevitable that storage would need to be added externally. So long as we start getting better enclosure options, I can live with this as a change in the name of more flexibility.
 
Stop with the tube criticism. This is an ode to the physics of cooling. It is smart design. In one end and out the other. Smart.

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One cpu socket...

Guys i don't know if it is mentioned here before, but as far concerns the argument of either dual or single cpu socket, I think that the case is a single socket cpu. If you search for Intel's plans for ivy bridge ep (which is propably the chip that the mac pro is going to have), you'll see that they are planning in releasing a 12 core single socket cpu..
 
External expansion is always the most limitless and flexible—but in the past, that route often lacked the needed performance for pros.

As we all know, the future is always exactly like the past.

Therefore, external expansion will always lack the performance that internal expansion used to provide.

This logic brought to you by non-pros whining on behalf of other people about a product they'd never have bought no matter what it did, looked like or cost :)

Additional promotional consideration provided by the Floppy Drive. Forever Necessary™
 
Like what? a $60 bluray burner?

Ports. Expect to have to buy a lot of new hubs. Let's not forget that they're all in back of the thing, too, so forget about using thumb drives ever again. If Apple expects everyone to go external for everything, those few ports are going to be used up very quickly.

Storage. Now instead of sticking cheap drives into the thing you have to buy expensive Thunderbolt enclosures for everything. SSD is still very expensive, and I'm sure Apple's brand new custom-designed drives will be even more expensive.

Expansion. Instead of sticking off-the-shelf cards into your computer you have to go and get some expensive external PCI enclosures that will have less bandwidth than the much cheaper PCI slots of old.

While I'm sure that some pros still use optical media, the loss of that on the new computer Apple is making will not be a big deal. But of course you'd have to use up one of those very few USB ports to get optical media again, if that is a big deal for you. So more hubs.
 
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