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Apple Offers Sneak Peek of Completely Redesigned Mac Pro

I am in a small research group that uses Mac Pros for scientific computing problems (fluid dynamics, large eddy simulation, numerical weather prediction). Apple can take our money because we will buy this as soon as it is available.
 
quagmire said:
Made out of plastic? Seriously? Spend $1299 and get a nice aluminum iMac. $2499 gets me a plastic Mac Pro(predicting cost of the new Mac Pro)? Screw that.....
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Nope.
It's a "Machined Aluminum Enclosure. Refined impact extrusion technologies are more material-efficient and give the polished aluminum enclosure its incredible shape and finish."

2nd last page here: http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Fail for you maybe, just like the power loom was a fail to the Luddites.

I don't see how you can complain you'll have to find room for TB enclosures when the new MP is a fraction of the footprint of the old box. You could stack the MP on top of a 4 bay enclosure and it would still dwarf the old MP's size. Your reaction, I think, it complete knee jerk because you want the old in a new package, not the new in a new package and cannot process workflow and storage is changing.

And if you are a real true pro $1400 on extra equipment is nothing. If you are a consumer, yes, a lot of money. But for a pro, you make that back in a job or two and then its pure bonus profit because your productivity just increased because you are not sitting around for a drive to finish writing.
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Very well said!
 
lilo777 said:
It might for some but that's not much. PC users could do this like forever? So what's the innovation here? Will you be able to use, say, latest Intel® Xeon Phi™ Coprocessor?
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Do YOU use the latest Intel® Xeon Phi™ Coprocessor?

The argument against innovation is ridiculous. Looking at the history of your posts, it seems that you would like nothing less than for Apple to shutter its doors permanently tomorrow and for its executive staff to be instantly thrown into poverty.
 
fermat-au said:
Is it confirmed that the RAM in these is not user upgradable? It so this is not a Pro machine.
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"Every machine will ship with 256 GB of RAM (non-user upgradeable because it's maxed out.)" -Said No One

I'd bet if they actually did something like that, though, people would still be upset / making claims that it's not a pro machine.

Of course they won't...in the hypothetical (since memory is upgradeable): Unless they've invented a new way of making DDR RAM that's proprietary to Apple and they've streamlined the process to get the economies of scale they'd need, etc. in order to make up for the enormous price differential between their standard RAM upgrade offerings, versus the third party add-on memory pro customers would typically buy.

Now, if they pulled a trick out of enterprise playbook and ship units with all memory soldered on, but require an activation code to acccess the memory you haven't paid for yet, then that would be both interesting and also disappointing at the same time for the do it yourself / save a few bucks type.

On the one hand, they'd be able to better guaranty compatibility and support every Mac Pro in the same way, while on the other hand, they'd no doubt charge a premium for every X GB's worth of additional RAM.
 

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mrhick01 said:
Do YOU use the latest Intel® Xeon Phi™ Coprocessor?

The argument against innovation is ridiculous. Looking at the history of your posts, it seems that you would like nothing less than for Apple to shutter its doors permanently tomorrow and for its executive staff to be instantly thrown into poverty.
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apple haters will show up anywhere to spread the hate.
 
mrxak said:
Pros would not be complaining about no innovation. Pros would thank Apple kindly and get back to work on their updated hardware with complete feature-set.
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True. Professionals just wanted to be able to get a newer upgraded MacPro with the latest available features such as the new processors, USB3, etc. I never saw anyone asking for a total redesign, especially one that will require many users to fork out thousands of dollars just to retain the functionality the previous models had. Flash memory, thunderbolt drives, and expansion chassi drive up the cost of admission considerably. We can only hope that the price of the new MacPro will be lower, but that is unlikely.
 
If nothing else, it was a real pleasure to watch something unfold we had no idea what would look like, and 80% of Internet users had decleard EOL, dead
 
ericmooreart said:
If it sells for more then 1500 its a waste. You can build a high end Hacketosh for less.
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Have you tried building a hackintosh with dual Xeon CPU's and dual high grade GPU's (never mind Solid State storage)? Even with i7 CPU's that cost expectation is unrealistic.
 
This is not made for the home consumer. I don't know of any real video editors that don't use drive arrays to begin with...so an external is not a big deal..and with the new speed will be outstanding. I highly doubt a home/prosumer user would be able to afford the video card upgrade that will beat out these GPU's that are installed. Your NewEgg 200.00 "2gig" video card is nothing in comparison.

Another thing..I really wish this forum required a mac serial number to register...getting tired of the droid boys leaving dumb comments. I will most likely get kicked off here for that comment because I commented on droid boys one other time and got a warning. Oh well,
 
keysofanxiety said:
With the greatest of respect, I'm not sure where you're getting your facts from. Phil stated that upgradability was one of the main factors in the new Mac Pro. It even mentions upgradability on Apple's website (see: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/201...-Peek-Into-the-Future-of-the-Pro-Desktop.html)

It comes with, from what I can see, a minimum of a 12-core CPU, and dual GPUs. It's got PCI SSDs, for god's sake; that's pretty much 4x as fast as any consumer SSD.

And although we all know very little about it, the 'facts' you have stated about the Mac Pro all seem to contradict what was in the keynote. And frankly, I'm amazed they've managed to pack so much power into such a small frame.

Small≠non-upgradeable.
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2x Samsung 840 pro in raid 0 will give you the same performance of that stupid PCI SSD , if you expect 2G/s PCI SSD you are wrong that thing alone costs 2000$

and this tiny CASE wont take 8 Cores Xeons , they need 150 WATTS thats 300 WATTS for two of them

they will be using for sure 90 watts only Xeons.

and whats with the 4 Memory slots only in Dual CPU Workstation ?

the old SandyBridge single cpu got 8 slots , and the dual sockets got from 16 memory slots to a total of 24

and they come and give us desktop grade 4x memory slots so we will have to pay for 32G dimms that costs 10 times more , instead of cheap 8G Ram modules ?
 
My friend at WWDC took a snap of the Pro on display. It looks less like glossy plastic and more like black chrome. Apple's super-tidy photos on their site don't do it justice.

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Jst0rm said:
From the pic it is user upgradable. Its not soldered on. Thats for sure.
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Yes, it's PCIe SSD. 3rd Party will be available. It's clear from the demo that RAM and Storage are user upgradable which is why they demonstrated how easy it is to open & no silly Penalobe or torx screws to fool with.
 
rhett7660 said:
From Apple:

Traditionally, pro computers have relied primarily on the CPU for their computing power. But as GPU performance has dramatically increased, software developers have begun to leverage that power in their apps. With the new Mac Pro, we looked ahead and engineered an even more powerful GPU architecture. Not only does it feature a state-of-the-art AMD FirePro workstation-class GPU with up to 6GB of dedicated VRAM — it features two of them. With all that power, you’ll be able to do things like seamlessly edit full-resolution 4K video while simultaneously rendering effects in the background — and still have enough power to connect up to three high-resolution 4K displays.

These won't do?
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Its the internet. What else do people use it for except to bitch?
 
Truffy said:
It could be cute, but you're buying in to Apple's exorbitant internal storage costs, and the only option is to add external crap. Suddenly the iMac looks almost good.
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So you want to add a 150.00 crap hard drive? You don't spend this kind of money on a machine of this quality and do that.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Fail for you maybe, just like the power loom was a fail to the Luddites.

I don't see how you can complain you'll have to find room for TB enclosures when the new MP is a fraction of the footprint of the old box. You could stack the MP on top of a 4 bay enclosure and it would still dwarf the old MP's size. Your reaction, I think, it complete knee jerk because you want the old in a new package, not the new in a new package and cannot process workflow and storage is changing.

And if you are a real true pro $1400 on extra equipment is nothing. If you are a consumer, yes, a lot of money. But for a pro, you make that back in a job or two and then its pure bonus profit because your productivity just increased because you are not sitting around for a drive to finish writing.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.
 
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