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2x Samsung 840 pro in raid 0 will give you the same performance of that stupid PCI SSD , if you expect 2G/s PCI SSD you are wrong that thing alone costs 2000$

and this tiny CASE wont take 8 Cores Xeons , they need 150 WATTS thats 300 WATTS for two of them

they will be using for sure 90 watts only Xeons.

and whats with the 4 Memory slots only in Dual CPU Workstation ?

the old SandyBridge single cpu got 8 slots , and the dual sockets got from 16 memory slots to a total of 24

and they come and give us desktop grade 4x memory slots so we will have to pay for 32G dimms that costs 10 times more , instead of cheap 8G Ram modules ?

It is not a dual CPU workstation. Nothing indicates it is, and the wording indicates only one CPU. There will be 12-core E5 Xeons later this year.
 
Does it look familiar to Anyone else??
 

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Let's end the "plastic or metal" debate right now.
 

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Does it look familiar to Anyone else??

Thanks for the original post. Nobody has made the connection between the shape of the new Mac Pro and a cylindrical trash can! Was posting this picture really worth creating a user account?

BTW... I wonder why nobody ever made the connection between the old Mac Pro and a rectangular prism trash can!
 
Apple is a premium company. They make premium products using premium materials. Unless it is carbon fiber, using cheap plastic is not premium. The only exception being is the upcoming low cost iPhone.... But, plastic on a $2500 machine? No excuse......

Total nonsense. Apple have released plenty of plastic products. Many plastics are very durable and well up to the job at protecting electronics.
 
its 2013, expandabilty is Thunderbolt.

Owww is this the year Thunderbolt is going to finally crack it!!! Can't wait too see all those reasonably priced expansion options hitting the shelves.... :rolleyes:
 
It is not a dual CPU workstation. Nothing indicates it is, and the wording indicates only one CPU. There will be 12-core E5 Xeons later this year.

LOL .. thats even worse lol ... do you know how much 12 cores Xeon will cost ? no less than $2000 for cpu only.

the 8 cores are at $1600
 
Maybe its just me, but it doesn't have an Apple signature on it whatsoever. It actually looks like something Dell or Lenovo would have made, without the Apple logo it would look like, dare I say it, an unusual "Generic PC case" :eek:
 
This things is so small it's more like a powerful hub than a desktop PC. Internal drives would be nice but then a Thunderbolt chassis in a 19" rack is an even cooler solution.

Home run.
 
**** you Apple for Destroying Mac PRO.

1. what if I want 4 SLI Quadro Workstation ?

2. what if I HATE AMD ?

3. you made it External and did not make full PCIE 16X 3.0 External PORT ? who CARES about Thunderbolt we HAVE EXTERNAL PCIE 16X 3.0 with Cables.

4. BLACK ? FOR REAL ? Apple Never Used black . I hate Black

5. Unified cooling ? WHO CARES we are not at Fashion show here !

6. Plastic ? REALLY ?

7. No Hotswapp Raid bay ? REALLY ?

8. No expansion slots ?

9. did you kill Steve Jobs to allow this **** ?

REALLY easy answer ... don't buy one!
 
On Apple's Mac Pro preview page, it looks like the SSD can be removed and replaced. I am sure it would require some sort of proprietary form factor, though. Some companies already make upgrades for Apple's laptops. If you look at the internals, it appears that there is space for another slot for and SSD card as well. I wonder if Apple will add that as an option.

mmmkay...except in my current Mac Pro I have a RAID setup separate from the system, and a backup drive. All in one case. Even if I can upgrade the storage, can i RAID them?
 
Anyone else think it's ugly...

And too much of a gimmick...

This is a rather large extended middle finger to the 'pro' customer...

It looks more like a toy than an earth shaking computer, and 'all' of the extensions are to be external? Yeah, that will go over well... :(

I guess I'd be more impressed if it was black machined aluminum, with slots, but this doesn't impress me. 'Cute' only goes so far...
 
Ok. How does the 3 internal HD that I have inside of my MP gonna work in this tube? Guess all data on those 3 HDs are now useless?

Yea because your legacy SATA II HDD's have a place in a brand new machine for 2013....:rolleyes: unbelievable.

As a music studio engineer, looking to upgrade our current Mac Pro, the new Mac Pro might be an economically turn off.

Our system needs two PCI-express slots and several harddrives for projects, sample libraries etc. Buying a Mac Pro, AND a PCI-express chassi, AND external harddrive chassi, might be waaaaaay to much money to spend.

Note that i wrote "might be". I sure do hope i.e. Magma chassis get alot cheaper along with other Thunderbolt devices.

Not sure how Mac Pro and economical get used in the same sentence, by someone who is totally serious.

Only external expansion ? It won't look so cool with all the devices all around though... At least, are the internal parts upgradeable without external substitutes ?

Yes, only external expansion. The way it should be. Its impossible to build a machine that is not inherently a piece of junk and still user expandable on the inside. Look at the current Mac Pro, and every single PC box in the world.

Unexpected design ... Kind of like it. But is it practical ? Time will tell.

Completely expected. A unit that is tops, and utilizes Thunderbolt the way it was intented....taking hardware outside of one box, making possibilities and configurations UNLIMITED. True Expandability.

I've been waiting silently to see what they've been teasing at for so long now. I thought for sure that with Steve gone, they'd finally release a modest, modular "xMac" after all these years.

Instead, they release a MacMini Pro.

For years, I've been hoping for a simple desktop from Apple that would grow with my needs. I've never needed a workstation, but occasionally I like to replace my graphics card, or throw in an extra hard drive. I've needed a Mac Pro Lite. Apple consistently refused to deliver.

I've tried hackintoshes for the past 8 years, but they're always too much work to maintain, and too unstable. Eventually I just gave up.

And I didn't end up settling for an iMac, a Mac Pro, or a Mac Mini.

After DECADES of being an Apple fanboy - believing in the company when no one else did (much to the ridicule of all my friends) - Apple has made a Windows user out of me.

I would've never believed it to be possible.

Hate on me all you want. You are no longer my people.

-Clive

Clearly, software isn't important to you. All that nonsense that you've gone through is because you can't be happy with good performance and pretend like there is an extra 10% you squeeze out of every little hardware improvement the world sees. Not so.

This machine was built by real engineers. Not hacks, like...
 
2x Samsung 840 pro in raid 0 will give you the same performance of that stupid PCI SSD , if you expect 2G/s PCI SSD you are wrong that thing alone costs 2000$

and this tiny CASE wont take 8 Cores Xeons , they need 150 WATTS thats 300 WATTS for two of them

they will be using for sure 90 watts only Xeons.

and whats with the 4 Memory slots only in Dual CPU Workstation ?

the old SandyBridge single cpu got 8 slots , and the dual sockets got from 16 memory slots to a total of 24

and they come and give us desktop grade 4x memory slots so we will have to pay for 32G dimms that costs 10 times more , instead of cheap 8G Ram modules ?
It's not going to be a dual cpu workstation. It will propably use the new ivy bridge ep 12 core-24thread cpu (E5-2600 v2)shown in that diagram
http://www.tomshardware.com/gallery/xeon-e5-p,0101-379818-0-2-3-1-jpg-.html
 
mmmkay...except in my current Mac Pro I have a RAID setup separate from the system, and a backup drive. All in one case. Even if I can upgrade the storage, can i RAID them?

I have no idea, of course. It sure would be nice if the second SSD (if this even becomes a reality) could be used with the first in a RAID configuration.
 
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