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No dual CPU's means this is not a PRO machine it's a prosumer machine. Also AMD graphics, really? No Quadro no GTX options makes this DOA for many professionals and even many gamers. Fu** Apple, seriously? :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

HP Z820 I choose you!

TWELVE CPU CORES

DUAL PRO GRAPHICS CARDS

what the hell kind of prosumer machine is that? you really have no idea what you're talking about do you?
 
Question:

How you define "a professional"? Being "a professional" is a description others give of you; if you say "Hey, I'mmm a PRO_FESHHHIONAL" to describe yourself, you have an ego the size of Africa, and I very much doubt you are one.

A true professional knows it's unprofessional to show off about one's perceived skills. Keep your mouth closed, work to the best of your abilities, and be blessed with the adoration that OTHERS give you - you have no right to be seen as one.

You've got it all wrong. It's PRUH-FESSIONAL. duh!
 
Now that's a neat soda can! Starting at $3000!

Replace your home furnace!

And stove!!
 
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I'm sure you are not trolling and are just misinformed. This is not plastic. It is Metal. I'm certain that you just didn't know that the details are on the Apple Website. "Refined impact extrusion technologies are more material-efficient and give the polished aluminum enclosure its incredible shape and finish".

The info wasn't posted yet when I said that. Looking at the CG pics it does look like black plastic.

I stand corrected now that apple stated it is aluminum.
 
I am curious though... Black plastic? Is that really plastic? Please be not plastic. The cylinder form factor was an odd choice. The GPU question that remains is whille I be able to upgrade it? I wonder if external thunderbolt GPU's are in the pipeline? I know sonnett puts out a pretty heavy duty TB external gpu system.

It has a layer of gloss on top of it( cause it looks to have that shine to it). I don't know of any metal computers that have a layer of gloss on it.....



Apple is a premium company. They make premium products using premium materials. Unless it is carbon fiber, using cheap plastic is not premium. The only exception being is the upcoming low cost iPhone.... But, plastic on a $2500 machine? No excuse......

The website states "machined aluminum enclosure".
 
HA! Don't make me laugh. A gimmick? Please do yourself a favor, knock off the childish antics, and go to Apple's website spend a few minutes looking at the webpage dedicated to this product. Maybe you'll come away with an education on what matters.

pmz - thumbs up to you - I fully agree with your response. Way too many people on this site / thread are popping off without having even viewing the well done overview on Apple's site. Plastic case - slow the hell down and READ the design overview - aluminum, not plastic sheathes this new powerhouse.

No expansion - where are they getting (or why are they generating) all this FUD?
 
TWELVE CPU CORES

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what the hell kind of prosumer machine is that? you really have no idea what you're talking about do you?

Those lamenting that it is not a dual CPU machine probably don't even own one.

Apple finally comes out with the next-generation Mac Pro that gives us a stunning new design and form factor in addition to a being a killer "headless iMac" option... and everyone is whining. You guys go ahead and take your business to HP - I will have this beauty humming away on my desk!
 
I'm confused. This youtube video shows Dell playing catch up with the old Mac Pro tower.

this is a true work station.

Apple should never mess with workstations.

should be open , expandable , alot of Memory slots , 2 CPU , SLI support , hot swapp bays ...

I was expecting a similar like this DELL hardware with better look.

but they gave me a trashcan.
 
Complete disappointment. Not Rack Mountable and no redundant PSU. I figured they'd at least make something for former Xserve customers. They need to "officially" unlock running OSX on esxi (without apple hardware)
 
I love it! This takes me back to the early 2000 when Apple had true production innovation. Cube, iMac G4, Cinema Display . . .

I'm excited about Apple products again.
 
ummm....im likely not to be sitting there with the MP in my face brushing my teeth using its pretty reflection where I can easily reach around and turn it on mike an Imac.

Since I use a machine room and all.

Wait - you use Immac? Don't do that until you've brushed your teeth...

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Serious Question

Is TB2 fast enough to support external GPUs? ...and storage, and displays, and a RED Rocket Card?

Concerned about latency since there is a conversion step between TB and the processor(s).

That is really the only weak link I see so far in this new form factor. I could care less what it looks like... but I do need serious GPU support, of the CUDA variety and I need that support to be flexible. Most everything else I needed PCIe for can (and will) be replaced or put in a chassis.

GPU... not so sure.

Please back up your answers with facts. Signal to noise ratio on this tread is a bit insane.
 
pmz - thumbs up to you - I fully agree with your response. Way too many people on this site / thread are popping off without having even viewing the well done overview on Apple's site. Plastic case - slow the hell down and READ the design overview - aluminum, not plastic sheathes this new powerhouse.

No expansion - where are they getting (or why are they generating) all this FUD?

Good points. The system is slick with great hardware. My only concern is the lack of internal expandability. It seems current Pro owners will have to place their HDD's in Thunderbolt enclosures which (at the moment) are not cheap. The GPU seems on board, no? The only expandable internal components are RAM and PCIe storage/devices. Otherwise, love the update.
 
I wonder why they tout 1/8th the size in a pro machine; it's 1/8th of the size for a reason; lack of 4x 3.5" HDD bays and two optical drives jump out at me for one.

I really don't know what to think about it though; it seems to pack a lot into what is a very interesting design, but for me the two big selling points of the Mac Pro are the space inside the case and the ability to upgrade RAM, drives and GPU.

Okay, so there's more than enough Thunderbolt to add storage, and with a Fusion drive involving the internal Flash memory I suppose it ought to be okay as smaller, frequent files will stay internal, while larger files will absorb any added latency once the transfer is underway. But when you start talking about adding Thunderbolt enclosures (which aren't cheap), you have to wonder what the advantage of being 1/8th of the size really is if you need an ugly stack of disks to make the machine workable.

RAM seems covered, though is it only four slots? I notice the Mac Pro page focuses on the bandwidth and doesn't actually mention total capacity. I'm hoping there are two processor/RAM boards mirroring each other, so there would be another four slots, did they go into that in the keynote? The page doesn't have full technical specs yet.

GPUs are the big worry; my workload admittedly doesn't require cutting edge GPUs, but it'd still be nice to have as much choice as possible when it comes to picking upgrades for the future. With this new machine the cards look to have severe limitations on size, which presumably eliminates full-length and double height cards (which is a lot of them), so what does that leave us? Also, how are those cards pushing their output to monitors, is some sort of custom connector involved that cards would need to be compatible with, or is the PCIe bus fast enough to handle both data in and video out for sending into the appropriate Thunderbolt port (or the HDMI port)?

Reliance on Thunderbolt in general is something I'm just a bit iffy about; Thunderbolt would be fine if it were just a hot-pluggable PCIe standard, but it isn't quite as lightweight or direct as all that, which means it's not really the same as being able to add a fibre-channel card to a machine.



I love the case as an idea, I just have serious doubts about its viability as a workstation; but then it seems like Apple doesn't want you thinking of it as a workstation but as a "Pro" computer, but for the money you're going to end up paying I'm not sure the compact form factor is going to do it any favours, especially with the concern about storage; if it's too expensive then I'm going to have to resort to a hackintosh as I don't want to spend thousands of pounds on a machine that needs even more spent on enclosures in order to be usable.

So ehm… yeah, my verdict is that I'd love to love this machine, but I have my doubts. Radical can be nice, but the Mac Pro was a great workstation, other than the languishing without updates part, and this might just be too different.
 
this is a true work station.

Apple should never mess with workstations.

should be open , expandable , alot of Memory slots , 2 CPU , SLI support , hot swapp bays ...

I was expecting a similar like this DELL hardware with better look.

but they gave me a trashcan.

Then you should have said this in your original post.
 
I can't help but think their normal aluminium would have looked nicer.

Very rough mockup...
 

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