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Apple Offers Sneak Peek of Completely Redesigned Mac Pro
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I think it's smart... why limit yourself with what you can put inside of the machine?
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Thunderbolt i/o...
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Thunderbolt i/o...
Not to crazy about it... it better be fast, and not as much $$$
I understand new concepts and innovation, but this is pushing the limit a bit I think. So now, to use all the HD's and extras I have that are not USB, I will have to buy cable converters, new JBOD enclosure for HD's... anyway I will have to spend even more money to make everything work. Who knows maybe just get a newer Mac Pro that is currently out there on the site. It will probably be cheaper in the long run.
I understand new concepts and innovation, but this is pushing the limit a bit I think. So now, to use all the HD's and extras I have that are not USB, I will have to buy cable converters, new JBOD enclosure for HD's... anyway I will have to spend even more money to make everything work. Who knows maybe just get a newer Mac Pro that is currently out there on the site. It will probably be cheaper in the long run.
That's just change, not innovation.
Just like nobody needed the Imac to be a cm thinner on the edges for the illusion of thinness, Apple Pro users weren't asking for a system to be 1/8th the volume.
Actually, it had a serious design flaw. Those nearly worthless (and too sharp to comfortably use) handles made the case too wide to place in a rack horizontally. If you rack-mounted them vertically, there was a lot of wasted space both in the width and height planes.
Other vendors had smaller systems with the power/expandability of the Apple Pro, and systems the size of the Apple Pro with more power/expandability.
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It will suck junk in through the lower vents - the CPU/GPU area is negative pressure.
There is no room (they expect you to expand everything EXTERNAL so welcome to the Mac Mini Pro).
The GPU will not be upgradeable unless you use Thunderbolt (which can't handle anything fast so no, you can't upgrade it).
In short, this is not a Mac Pro. It's a POS that looks like a trash can from a Casino. Expansion is dead. They include 6 Thunderbolt ports (which no one uses), only 4 USB ports (not even certain they are USB3, although one would assume so). Heck, my Mac Mini has 4 USB ports....
They include zero Firewire ports (so much for Pro Audio without an adapter).
They include zero eSata ports (still no professional in "Pro" I guess; they forget people out there use and need these things whether they think they're the future, past or just crap it doesn't matter; they are used by Pros and Apple doesn't include them)
They include zero free drive bays
They include zero expansion ports (forget all true Pro cards made for the Mac Pro; they expect them all to make new Thunderbolt devices instead, I guess or you to buy some external PCI box expansion to take up all the room they claim you save.
All in all, it's truly disappointing to see Apple sell GIMMICK instead of an actual professional product. Based on the responses, it's pretty obvious that is what Apple fans respond to these days. Throw in the absolutely HORRID looking iOS7 interface shown and I think you can expect the next version of OSX to look just plain GOD AWFUL.
AidenShaw's design principle: Enclosures should be bigger than they have to be.
(Do you really think Apple feels they sacrificed performance to make their products smaller? They put what they wanted in these machines, and then sized the enclosures, not the other way around.)
I think they are smarter than that... thats double the price of the current Mac Pro!
Just saying, putting a drive at the top would have killed the airflow, both forced and convective, which would have required a change in configuration away from a cylindrical design. From a design standpoint, TB has given Apple a lot more leeway than a conventional bus based chassis would have.
For the record, an expansion chassis would be compatible with any TB equipped Mac, including Air's. Might turn out to be a higher volume product than if it was just Mac Pro capable.
Jeez, you guys keep beating this dead horse about optical drives. Out of the hundred or so posts I've ready today, not one has made mention of optical drives. You need to widen your fanboy horizons a bit.
And if you think nobody watches DVD anymore (not that I even care) you're sorely mistaken. We sell our TV shows on DVD for $30 a pop. Unbelievable I know, but true. You obviously have no idea and shouldn't be making such claims.
Seriously? You remove them from your current MP, buy a Thunderbolt 4-bay rack, and voila!
thats why I'm thinking 1500 for it. But Thunderbolt boxes run around 800 to 1000 bucks. There go the savings
Absolutely. You hit the nail on the head. I too have a MP 1,1 and just upped the RAM from 6 to 10 GB and will soon upgrade the CPU to two quad core x5355. It does what I need and I'm still happy with it although it is only running just OS X 10.7.5 Lion.
Jeez, you guys keep beating this dead horse about optical drives. Out of the hundred or so posts I've ready today, not one has made mention of optical drives. You need to widen your fanboy horizons a bit.
And if you think nobody watches DVD anymore (not that I even care) you're sorely mistaken. We sell our TV shows on DVD for $30 a pop. Unbelievable I know, but true. You obviously have no idea and shouldn't be making such claims.
Indeed. And this is from 8/2012
http://blog.cdrom2go.com/2012/08/blu-ray-discs-still-growing/
Can't stop laughing.
It's a trash can, no it's an elevator lobby ashtray, no it's a paper shredder, no wait, it's a humidifier, no...it's...
I'd hardly call it a midrange game machine. Maya render times are twice as fast on my Hackintosh then current top mac pro. And it was said that this new mac pro is "Twice" as fast as the current top mac Pro. So sounds about even.
Also if you know what your doing a Hackintosh is very stable.
Not sure why you think that would be necessary, it defaults to two GPU cards (4096 cores) with 6GB of vram.
True, most weren't and most in that market segment don't look for machines to be light, fluffy, small, and sleek. At best we want them to be totally tool-less, and 100% upgradeable. The new Mac Pro isn't 100% upgradeable, and therefore not totally tool-less.
Agreed again. At my previous job, the IT crowd embraced the Mac in just about everything they did save for servers and virtualization. They couldn't rack 'em, so they went with Dells.
You didn't read his other quote. And even if you forget about Aiden, you'll see that many other vendors make small enclosures that pack a Xeon chip and just as much expandability as the new MacCan.
I think Apple did a fantastic job with the design, but part of me still wants a machine that's three times the size (still smaller than the previous MacPro) with all the expandability that we've all wanted in a Mac system, at a modest Macintosh price.
Not sure why CUDA has gotten a foothold, it's proprietary and tied to NVIDIA unlike OpenCL.
True, and sadly, they don't seem to provide Mercury Playback Engine support outside of the laptops. That sucks for many Adobe users.
I remember.....
the feeling when I first saw the Cube:.....Amazing....! Like the cilindrical shape and the black finish. Dislike totally the no internal expansion. Hope to post more in another forum.....
the feeling when I first saw the Cube:.....Amazing....! Like the cilindrical shape and the black finish. Dislike totally the no internal expansion. Hope to post more in another forum.....