haha, sorry. I'll go back and fix. I'm not sure what my brains doing
I think i'm still bitter HD-DVD lost the war
Not at all. Your brain is just spelling the word "blue" out. I still have to slow down to type iPhone and iPod and iMac and such.
haha, sorry. I'll go back and fix. I'm not sure what my brains doing
I think i'm still bitter HD-DVD lost the war
Yes, you can dump a Blu-Ray to physical disk.
But you still need the Blu-ray drive to do this do you not? how do you get a Blu-Ray ripped from disc without the medium?
Then, all those very large media files need a bast amount of storage. If you're trying to build an "all in one" machine that can both rip and store blu-rays for digital media playback, you're SOL. With the new Apple
paradigm, you will have to buy a 3rd party blu-ray external drive, and then external data storage materials.
Then if you want to watch that blu-ray movie on a TV in a different place in the house? First you need to make sure that the location is wired up properly to handle the amount of data transmission that Blu-Ray media can require.
You need a network media streamer that is capable of running ripped blu-ray media. VLC doesn't run on most network media streaming devices.
Orrrrr, you can buy a $99 blu-ray player. plug it into your home theatre. insert disc. Watch.
But Even I understand that everyones mileage varies and that the Blu-Ray Medium itself is going nowhere.
it is completely unreasonable to assume that every movie watcher is going to go out of their way to build themselves such a "whole home" media based system, when the quick, easy and cost effective means already exists and is well established.
However, in the case of the new MP's not having Blu-ray internal, I'm really impartial to it. Would it be nice to have an internal media drive so that everything is nice and clean and neat internal? sure, but theres' still the capability of adding one via external connectivity if one is required. To me, the bigger omission and question regarding the MP is the internal storage and upgradability. I know lots of professionals who upgrade their graphics cards regularly cause every measurable increase of performance they can get can potentially save them hours of processing and work time. being
They make USB3 enclosures that hold four drives and they're not expensive.
Do you really own a Mac Pro with two internal bluray burners in the optical bay? And why do you need two, are you really doing two simultaneous burns that often?
useless
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yes it helps with process of burning more than two copies for the customer
USB 3 enclosures are useless and they do slow down your mac especially when you use USB
and this is a horrible option
all that extra room on desk that I do not have
I love the speed but no expandability, it makes it useless for usage as a pro all in one computer, at least if they would give us two extra bays for hard drives it could of helped us make a switch to new mac pros but with no internal bays, its almost impossible to do this for us.
as we do not what to add extra parts on our desks
Well, look at what Apple does on the new MacPro.
http://www.thunderbolt4mac.com/Apple/New-Mac-Pro/index.asp?C=4
USB3 and Thunderbolt ports. Let the USB people stay in USB land and Thunderbolt people stay in Thunderbolt land
You dont want to add extra parts on your desks but Apple does not want you to add any parts internally in their machine. This would create support tickets which is what Apple doesnt want. They have no control over what you want to add. If you go everything USB or Thunderbolt, easier for them to support. First thing to ask is if your device gets certified by either USB or Thunderbolt? if not, go ask your vendor. Either you put extra parts on your desk with a tiny MacPro or having a huge old MacPro with all the little parts you wanna add![]()
Probably going to start at $5,000
haha, sorry. I'll go back and fix. I'm not sure what my brains doing
I think i'm still bitter HD-DVD lost the war
Prices are starting to leak for the xeons these machines will use. Not cheap and when you look at pricing for single 12 versus dual 6 core, assuming this pricing is real, Apple's decision to only make it single socket isn't looking very good.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7214/xeon-e52600-v2-price-list-server-ivy-bridgeep
Jesus H Christ, $2949.69 just for the processor!? And what do those dual GPUs run? About $1,000 starting-price for a 2GB pair and $3,000 for a 6GB pair?Prices are starting to leak for the xeons these machines will use. Not cheap and when you look at pricing for single 12 versus dual 6 core, assuming this pricing is real, Apple's decision to only make it single socket isn't looking very good.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7214/xeon-e52600-v2-price-list-server-ivy-bridgeep
You've linked to a page which shows dual socket processor prices even though we are 99% sure it is a single socket machine (you even said so!!)
The single socket Xeons (which are usually priced the same as the i7 versions) are slightly cheaper according to recent price leaks/speculation.
Misinformation isn't helpful![]()
You've linked to a page which shows dual socket processor prices even though we are 99% sure it is a single socket machine (you even said so!!)
The single socket Xeons (which are usually priced the same as the i7 versions) are slightly cheaper according to recent price leaks/speculation.
Sorry guy, it's not misinformation, Apple is actually planning on using dual socket capable chips but only putting them in a single socket motherboard. Go look at Apple's product page for the new MP, they say it is a single socket E5 configuration.
Sorry guy, it's not misinformation, Apple is actually planning on using dual socket capable chips but only putting them in a single socket motherboard. Go look at Apple's product page for the new MP, they say it is a single socket E5 configuration.
As AI pointed out, there is no twelve core version of the E3 or other single socket chips.
Not only would a dual socket version be a cheaper way of getting 12 cores, the clock speed tends to be higher with fewer cores. Of course a single socket mobo is going to be cheaper...but not $1200 cheaper. Maybe Apple will come to their senses and build a version that's dual CPU and single GPU. And these are "consumer" prices, Apple will be getting them for cheaper but not that much cheaper.
You both forget about the E5-1xxx series.
They are not going to use a E5-2 series 6 core when a E5-1 series 6 core would do the job.
Besides, just because a E5-1 series 12 core hasn't bean announced doesn't mean there won't be one.
If intel doesn't release a 12-core 1 series then maybe the higher end MP will have a series 2 CPU in it.
It is utterly daft to use a DP CPU in a SP machine when it costs give or take twice as much.
You both forget about the E5-1xxx series.
They are not going to use a E5-2 series 6 core when a E5-1 series 6 core would do the job.
Besides, just because a E5-1 series 12 core hasn't bean announced doesn't mean there won't be one. If intel doesn't release a 12-core 1 series then maybe the higher end MP will have a series 2 CPU in it. Lower down? 1-series.
It is utterly daft to use a DP CPU in a SP machine when it costs give or take twice as much.
And have you seen pricing (even rumored) for the E5-1 series?
As low as $294 according to Intel's comparison page http://ark.intel.com/products/family/59138/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-Family/server .
And on the same page, E5-2xxx are as cheap as $188. Maybe that wouldn't be so daft after all....
Yeah it's all very well saying that, but guess what? The professional industry is dictated by the companies that provide equipment to that industry. And Apple is only the recipient of that.
They didn't add 4K support because they invented it. Apple added 4K support because that's what the industry is deciding.