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It’s weird though, apparently it got way to hot but that’s never stopped them releasing products before - just look at their entire lineup of Macs that thermal throttle

That's by design & they throttle due to not being able to cool effectively, so that is the technology working as it should do.

People really need to dry their eyes and pick one of the dozens of excellent wireless chargers that are already on the market.
 
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Based on one's personal definition of innovation and execution, one can say apple is failing with neither. If the definition of innovation is market disruption, very, very few products in the world actually meet that definition. If the definition is more along the lines of what would find in a dictionary, then apple is not failing in either innovation or execution. Unfortunately airpower failed in execution, but it had plenty of innovation.

You can based your definition on dictionary all you want. But reality speaks otherwise.
Execution, I can mentioned many other products that failed, in example the Macbook Pro, and the Mac Pro.

In terms of innovations, Apple not only failed at innovation, but also at upgrade cycles.
If a company is upgrading products every 4-6 years, that for itself tells you how pathetic Apple has become at upgrading its computer line up.

Innovation, products speak for themselves.
iMac, same 10 year old design.
MacBook Pro After 2016+, have problems not only with design but with quality, the keyboard is a complete disaster.
Mac Pro, 6 years and counting.

And by the way, if a product like the Airpower failed at execution, it also failed at innovation. FYI, you are NOT innovating if you cannot execute.
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Next news: Mac Pro cancelled because Apple cannot figure out anymore how to make a desktop computer.
Even Apple's own ads said that. What's a computer?

Apple forgot how to make a decent reliable computer many years ago
 
That's by design & they throttle due to not being able to cool effectively, so that is the technology working as it should do.

People really need to dry their eyes and pick one of the dozens of excellent wireless chargers that are already on the market.
But with decent cooling they don’t throttle and you get better performance out of them.
 
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Does Porsche change the 911 design every year? No. You know why? Because it's a classic design. The current iMac design is iconic. It's beautiful. It's perfect. No need to change it for change's sake.

Comparing a car to a computer is ridiculous and shows you understand nothing about computers.

Computers techology and design change way faster than cars.

Furthermore, the iMac design is way far from perfect. Is so old and pathetic that cannot even adjust the vertical position.
Look at the Surface Studio (external design). WHen Microsoft is creating more interesting designs that should tell you how far behind Apple is getting.
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“despite the Apple Watch?”

Apple Watch has disrupted the watch industry.
Airpods have disrupted the earphone industry.

The reasons macs get short shrift is because they know the future of computing is not mac.

Airpods are ugly, and look like you have a pair of antennas coming out of your years. They do not isolate sound, sound quality was average and they were overpriced (as anyting Apple these days).
The Jabra got much better reviews, better sound quality and better sound isolation.
 
They made some mistakes.
The first one was not to launch a simpler Qi charger alongside iPhone X. Only one device, like most of the Qi chargers out there, but with full support for the Watch. There are third party chargers, but there are plenty of covers too, and Apple loves to sell its own covers and I'm sure makes a pretty good amount of money from them. An Apple Qi charger would have sold pretty well, basically "free" money for them.
In the meantime, without announcing it at the event, they could have worked on the multiple device version.

What they did wrong, after announcing a product not ready for launch, was putting reference to it on future products. AirPods came last week still with AirPower depicted on the box, come on! For the entire 2018 they pretended AirPower wasn't a thing, but they still mentioned it in products pages or manuals.

It is ok to fail sometimes, but that's entirely their fault for announcing the product. I'm sure they have lots of prototypes of various kind of products they work on and are cancelled after months or years, but at least they don't talk about them.
 
But with decent cooling they don’t throttle and you get better performance out of them.

Yeah but you won't get decent cooling/thermals in devices as thin as MacBooks. Just simple physics.

I'm sure almost 100% of people wouldn't care if MacBook Pro's were a little thicker if they accommodated larger batteries & allowed for decent ventilation.
 
You can based your definition on dictionary all you want. But reality speaks otherwise.
Execution, I can mentioned many other products that failed, in example the Macbook Pro, and the Mac Pro.

In terms of innovations, Apple not only failed at innovation, but also at upgrade cycles.
If a company is upgrading products every 4-6 years, that for itself tells you how pathetic Apple has become at upgrading its computer line up.

Innovation, products speak for themselves.
iMac, same 10 year old design.
MacBook Pro After 2016+, have problems not only with design but with quality, the keyboard is a complete disaster.
Mac Pro, 6 years and counting.

And by the way, if a product like the Airpower failed at execution, it also failed at innovation. FYI, you are NOT innovating if you cannot execute.
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Even Apple's own ads said that. What's a computer?

Apple forgot how to make a decent reliable computer many years ago
Personal definitions are at play here. The idea of air power was innovative even if the execution was cancelled as no manufacturer has proposed that idea. Common folk like us don’t know anything about AirPower because we never saw it in action. Since 2013 Apple has had a string of innovations, including HomePod, as you said the products speak for themselves, but you spun it in a totally negative way. I mean it in a positive way.
 
Airpods are ugly, and look like you have a pair of antennas coming out of your years. They do not isolate sound, sound quality was average and they were overpriced (as anyting Apple these days).

And that hasn't stopped the AirPods from becoming as popular as they are today.

It's very possible that all the drawbacks you mentioned, simply don't register as such from the perspectives of the tens of millions of happy AirPods users. Maybe people don't mind having a pair of antennas sticking of out their ears. Maybe they don't mind that the AirPods have average sound, and simply prize the convenience and ease of use more, and are happy to pay for it.

Rather than keep trying to deny this phenomenon, why not accept and celebrate it for what it is?

For the record, I agree with you with regards to the Mac. Apple had its own ideas on how to push the Mac forward, but it just isn't resonating with their user base as well as Apple had hoped.

What I do disagree on is that this is somehow indicative that Apple is no longer innovating. Apple will continue to make great strides with mobile and wearables and go on to be insanely successful and profitable for a good many years to come. Maybe the self-styled "I hate on Apple because I actually love them and don't want them to lose their way" haters here don't care for the vision of the future of computing that Apple is promising (ie: They want Mac Pros, not Apple Watches), and that's perfectly fine.

The Apple of today is very much different from the Apple of yesteryear, which was a lot smaller and much more reliant on a core loyal fanbase for its survival. In this new reality, that original core user.. those true believers.. they just don’t matter anymore. They got to enjoy the ride from the start, but now their secluded island has been inundated by a population of visitors that outnumbers them by a couple of orders of magnitude.

And it is this new population who sets the tone for what kind of company Apple will be, because they have the power in this new relationship. Not the old guard.

Does this mean that Apple has “lost its way”? Apple is slowly transitioning into a much more traditional company, and its behaviour will start to match those of a traditional company’s behaviour. Albeit one that still continues to cling to their roots as a design-led company. If you want to consider that as them “losing their way”, then yeah.

I personally wouldn’t call it “losing their way”, though. Circumstances changed, and the company changed in keeping with the times, and that’s just the way she goes.

And I will continue voting with my wallet every step of way.
 
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This takes me back to when wireless chargers started arriving a few years ago and the argument being 'you still have to plug in the charger, so it is not really wireless'.

Often followed up with 'Apple will do this right and have a charger that doesn't even need to be close to the phone!'.

And here we are, years later...
This has to do with Apple's arrogance, rather than build on existing technology (Qi), they decide to reinvent the wheel and create their own properitary technology.

I'd say I hope they learned the lesson, but doubt it, they are blinded by their successes.

Sidebar: it looks like macrumor moderation team is taking the news hard! Lol, it's ok, it's just another Apple fail
 
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Even Apple's own ads said that. What's a computer?

Apple forgot how to make a decent reliable computer many years ago[/QUOTE]

Currently own 5 Macs.. have owned about 20 in the past. Only 1 failed and that was a hard drive. And they run 24/7.
 
Comparing a car to a computer is ridiculous and shows you understand nothing about computers.

Computers techology and design change way faster than cars.

Furthermore, the iMac design is way far from perfect. Is so old and pathetic that cannot even adjust the vertical position.
Look at the Surface Studio (external design). WHen Microsoft is creating more interesting designs that should tell you how far behind Apple is getting.
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Airpods are ugly, and look like you have a pair of antennas coming out of your years. They do not isolate sound, sound quality was average and they were overpriced (as anyting Apple these days).
The Jabra got much better reviews, better sound quality and better sound isolation.
And still I would never buy a surface studio because to me it’s ugly and runs windows, and would never buy jabra again cause I once had them and the pairing process and pretty much everything about that product was a disaster.
 
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Apple credit card is not really innovating! I mean it's just a card like other cards with some percentage cash back and has nothing to do with certain innovating technology. Let's not be bias on this but I'm expecting more from a trillion dollar tech company. The last Apple event was their worst event with all those celebrities and Apple TV+. We already have many TV platforms with subscription services, it seems Apple wants to step into any industry and play a monopoly game with them, which I believe is not healthy.
Did you have your sarcasm filter on?
 
They know that most people are too lazy to return things. If you think Apple is not keen the timing of announcements and how they impact purchasing you’re not understanding how Apple works. They used AirPower as a selling point and waited till after the presale before announcing the withdraw of AirPower.
Yeah, you’re still not making sense. Why cancel AirPower now? They could have waited a lot longer than a week after AirPods 2 release of their goal was to dupe you.

You’re speculating. We know Apple cancelled it within the return window, so NO ONE is being forced to keep AirPods with wireless charging if the presumption the consumer had was that AirPower would be available.

Furthermore, preorders for AirPods 2 in a week window are quite literally nothing in terms of revenue impact for Apple, who did $266B in revenue in 2018.
 
Tim Cook 1-8-19:
“When I look at the long-term health of the company, it has never been better. The product pipeline has never been better. The ecosystem has never been stronger. The services are on a tear."

Someone call a plumber. :p
Just heard from a buddy of mine who works at Apple. They are releasing the iPlunger for internal use only. The pipeline is stuck and is about to explode. It’s been on a tear for a while now, and it’s getting dangerous to be around it.
 
They know that most people are too lazy to return things. If you think Apple is not keen the timing of announcements and how they impact purchasing you’re not understanding how Apple works. They used AirPower as a selling point and waited till after the presale before announcing the withdraw of AirPower.

There's a gazillion Qi standard wireless chargers on the market. No one ever needed AirPower specifically to charge stuff.
 
Yeah, that’s strike two Apple! (For me) When those ugly overpriced 2019 iPhones will come out, i’m out! But I think there is still something inside me that is hoping it’s going to be some beautiful phones full of innovations. One can only hope.
P.S. : to the ones ready to reply:” if you don’t like Apple products you don’t have to buy them “, I say “thank you for your kindness, but stop reminding people Apple is just a overpriced joke of a company full of bull....
 
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Okay Apple, Today was the day you were suppose to announce Air Power in celebration of the anniversary of the Apple I computer and match the price of the computer with Air Power device to keep in line with the new pricing structure.
 
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You can based your definition on dictionary all you want. But reality speaks otherwise.
Execution, I can mentioned many other products that failed, in example the Macbook Pro, and the Mac Pro.

In terms of innovations, Apple not only failed at innovation, but also at upgrade cycles.
If a company is upgrading products every 4-6 years, that for itself tells you how pathetic Apple has become at upgrading its computer line up.

Innovation, products speak for themselves.
iMac, same 10 year old design.
MacBook Pro After 2016+, have problems not only with design but with quality, the keyboard is a complete disaster.
Mac Pro, 6 years and counting.

And by the way, if a product like the Airpower failed at execution, it also failed at innovation. FYI, you are NOT innovating if you cannot execute.
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Even Apple's own ads said that. What's a computer?

Apple forgot how to make a decent reliable computer many years ago
Apple has the best execution record of any company on earth. They are 3X more profitable than Microsoft and Google, the #2 and #3 most profitable companies.

Apple executes their strategy on an unprecedented level and to say they are struggling with execution is flatly wrong and nonsense, based on the financials.

Now, you can disagree with their strategy that has produced $60 BILLION in profit and $266B in revenue or dislike their products, but let me tell you...they are executing.

They are also innovating more than you are choosing to realize.

Their mobile silicon, Apple Pay, Airpods, Watch, FaceID and other custom chips are just a few examples people like you ignore.

Innovations are not features.
 
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