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If the pictures and description are both misleading, I'm assuming all the positive reviews are fake then?
The description and picture are not misleading. The picture specifically says you need an Apple Watch cable. It says “Apple Watch cable not included” (it’s not the first picture - just scroll through them). It also specifically shows that you charge the AirPods by lightning connector, not Qi.
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If the pictures and description are both misleading, I'm assuming all the positive reviews are fake then?

These photos show this cannot simultaneously qi charge multiple devices, and you have to supply your own Apple Watch charging cable.
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By the way, it is not"perceived" baggage. It is actual an actual fact, of criminal defrauding of thundred of thousands of people.

If you are ok supporting that, then it shows what your values are. Pathetic.

If we want to go down that rabbit hole, I am sure dirt can just as readily be dug up on companies whose products you happen to use as well.

You are free to not use a product because of some issue you have with the way they do things. I fail to see why everyone else necessarily has to share your same world view though, nor are they terrible people for not doing so.

The moment you want to criticise someone over this though, I wonder how many of us here are really as angelic as we claim to be. Do you dare claim that every product you use comes from a company that is completely free of controversy whatsoever?

How many people here actually cared a crap about what Goldman Sachs did in the past prior to Apple announcing its partnership with them?

I am willing to bet that you are here bashing Goldman Sachs mainly before you think that doing so somehow gives you the higher moral ground which with to criticise Apple and its users by extension. Not necessarily because you happen to take offence to their actions. It’s a marriage of convenience, nothing more.

Was what Goldman Sachs did deplorable? Perhaps. Does this say anything about Apple’s decision to partner with them, much less about the people who choose to use this service?

I fail to see how so. Which is also why you rarely ever see me use that argument, unless it impacts the quality of the end product in some way. It’s not one that I feel holds water in any way.
 
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I'm confused. How come these small Chinese startups can do it so well?

This is why I call BS.
You want to know my conspiracy theory?

It was ready , but with all the recent Apple backlash of price gouging etc they knew we would scream bloody murder at the pricing so they're probably waiting until they can sell it at a reasonable price and still make $.
 
Meh.

It was a freaking charging mat. That's it. There's nothing interesting about it, there never was, and it's absolute idiocy that there's so much gnashing of teeth about it here. Apple shouldn't have ever bothered. It was never going to be an interesting product, it was a waste of engineering resources to even bother.

If they were trying to solve across-the-room charging? That would have been interesting. A mat? Meh.
Well, if that was a meh, what would you say about apple releasing those stupid battery cases? Why even waste time and resources on that idea?
 
I'm confused. How come these small Chinese startups can do it so well?

This is why I call BS.
You want to know my conspiracy theory?

It was ready , but with all the recent Apple backlash of price gouging etc they knew we would scream bloody murder at the pricing so they're probably waiting until they can sell it at a reasonable price and still make $.

No Chinese startups have “done it.” Not one. There is no such power mat for sale from anyone.
 
The Butterfly Keyboard met their standards and Apple doesn't shy away from high priced products. Makes you wonder what the reason is.
 
This is sad news and a case study in vaporware. I hate to say it, but you know it’s coming. A headline on MacRumors will one day say: “Apple Officially Cancels Mac.”

I could see them turning the mac into something like a chromebook. Not quite a real computer but some kind of connected internet gadget that looks like a computer.
 
I could see them turning the mac into something like a chromebook. Not quite a real computer but some kind of connected internet gadget that looks like a computer.

It’ll be a long while. You can’t even develop iOS software without a mac. I’d start worrying the day Xcode for ipad is a real thing.
 
Yep I’m okay with it because no company has a clean slate. It’s pretty pathetic the fake moral high ground around here. Seems like Apple (the collective of the mgmt) may be smarter/wiser than some of us here as they do t have this fake moral high ground.

At least we know your true colors...
And by the way by accepting every krap they feed you is how you support them. Nad if you think your opinion doe snot matter your are wrong. See what happened when they released the Macbook Pro 2016. It had so many bad reviews and complains that within less than a week Apple discounted the entire dongle-adaptors more than 50%.

Actually Apple is the one having fake Morals. In one way they claim that they want to protect our privacy, in the other, they partner with crooks.
In one hand they claim to use recycable materials, in the other they release disposable computer appliances that are non upgradable.
I guess their marketing worked well with you.
 
I saw a rumour that said AirPower was going to cost £150. For a charging mat?! Do they not realise the market is flooded with mats for as little as £10? So what if you have to position it correctly, that’s no big deal. Apple seem to be more interested in price gouging and less interested in delivering competitive products lately and it’s sad to see.
 
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Isn't the current generation of iPhones internally limited to 7w wireless charging? Your results seem consistent with normal charging pads, which take about 4 hours to fully charge an empty Xs Max.

I can't really say, as I don't usually monitor the time to charge. I either just top it off wirelessly all the time, or I pop it onto the Qi charger at bedtime and when I wake up 8 hours later it's full.

I just wanted to report on the performance of the portable Qi charging battery pack that I had just recommended. To summarize:

My Xs Max went from 20% to 45% in 30 minutes (25% added in 30 minutes)
Then up to 50% charge after 40 minutes
Then up to 55% charge after 50 minutes
Then up to 60% after 60 minutes (40% added in 60 minutes)
Then up to 70% after 1 hr 15 min at which point the charge rate slows a bit
Then up to 86% after 2 hr 10 min
Then up to 90% after 2 hr 30 min
Then up to 95% after 2 hr 45 min
And hit 100% after 3 hr 10 min

So yeah, it's possible that it could take 4 hours to go from 0-100% on the battery pack.

But It seemed to me that for the first 30-60 minutes that it was charging a bit faster than a 5W USB cube, and maybe as fast as a 10W cube, before it noticeably slowed after an hour and 15 minutes (after increasing the charge level by 50%).

After that it seemed like it was charging like a 5W cube, but adding 50% to my charge in an hour and 15 minutes on a wireless battery pack seemed impressive to me.
 
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I'm confused. How come these small Chinese startups can do it so well?

They are smaller lean companies with no unnecessary management structure to negotiate just in order to get things done.

Idea > design > test > ship product to market

Most Chinese companies can accomplish design to shipping a product in about 1/20th the time it takes the likes of Apple.

Look how the PC market has evolved with some truly amazing laptops now available whilst the MacBook range looks a sorry broken stale expensive mess.
 
At least we know your true colors...
And by the way by accepting every krap they feed you is how you support them. Nad if you think your opinion doe snot matter your are wrong. See what happened when they released the Macbook Pro 2016. It had so many bad reviews and complains that within less than a week Apple discounted the entire dongle-adaptors more than 50%.

Actually Apple is the one having fake Morals. In one way they claim that they want to protect our privacy, in the other, they partner with crooks.
In one hand they claim to use recycable materials, in the other they release disposable computer appliances that are non upgradable.
I guess their marketing worked well with you.
All of this, including ad-Homs, because AirPower was cancelled? There is much competition out there. Apple will still do well in spite of your prognostications.
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They are smaller lean companies with no unnecessary management structure to negotiate just in order to get things done.

Idea > design > test > ship product to market

Most Chinese companies can accomplish design to shipping a product in about 1/20th the time it takes the likes of Apple.

Look how the PC market has evolved with some truly amazing laptops now available whilst the MacBook range looks a sorry broken stale expensive mess.
Are those smaller, lean coJoanie’s going to be around to support you computer if it breaks? Are the designs going to be relevant in a year ir two? Does everybody think universally like those those designs are “amazing”? How can you be so sure Apple inside isn’t fairly agile vs having a plan you don’t agree with?
 
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Are those smaller, lean coJoanie’s going to be around to support you computer if it breaks? Are the designs going to be relevant in a year ir two? Does everybody think universally like those those designs are “amazing”? How can you be so sure Apple inside isn’t fairly agile vs having a plan you don’t agree with?

Who cares. If my wireless charger breaks or stops working after a few years I'll buy another for £25.
 
I'm confused. How come these small Chinese startups can do it so well?

This is why I call BS.
You want to know my conspiracy theory?

It was ready , but with all the recent Apple backlash of price gouging etc they knew we would scream bloody murder at the pricing so they're probably waiting until they can sell it at a reasonable price and still make $.


I'm not sure there's some grand conspiracy..

but your pricing comment isn't probably terribly far off.

They've likely ran into production yield problems, thus resulting in the need for a very high price point (especially if it's to remain profitable at the margins Apple expects).

they did the research and probably realized the world isn't going to pay $300+ for a Qi charger, no matter how fancy, especially when for the same price you could buy 3 seperate chargers (or more). Even if they don't necessarily do the same thing the Apple Charger was planning to do, sometimes, "GOod enough" is just that. Good enough.
 
Has Apple demonstrated agility the last few years?
Agility is not anything that can be measured from the outside looking in. To that point Apple not demonstrating agility to you doesn’t mean they can’t move quickly beyond the bureaucracy.
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Who cares. If my wireless charger breaks or stops working after a few years I'll buy another for £25.
Some people care enough to buy thousands of dollars of Apple products. Because you don’t care, doesn’t mean others feel the same way.
 
they did the research and probably realized the world isn't going to pay $300+ for a Qi charger, no matter how fancy, especially when for the same price you could buy 3 seperate chargers (or more). .

Lol ,or more? Wireless chargers can be had for 5 dollars . The end!!!! From experience they work very well, consistently over several years. And guess what are 95 dollars cheaper than the price you seem to think individual charges retail at.. this notion that cheap ones dont work, or they break within weeks.. is simply nonsense.. bought from Amazon with their guarantees is good enough to RISK this sort of purchase...
 
Lol ,or more? Wireless chargers can be had for 5 dollars . The end!!!! From experience they work very well, consistently over several years. And guess what are 95 dollars cheaper than the price you seem to think individual charges retail at.. this notion that cheap ones dont work, or they break within weeks.. is simply nonsense.. bought from Amazon with their guarantees is good enough to RISK this sort of purchase...

Cellphones can be had for $10. Doesn't make them equivalent to iPhones. The issue isn't that the cheap ones break (they may or may not). They don 't do what AirPower promised. They don't even do what Nomad or Belkin promises (and each of them charges > $100).

You keep comparing apples and oranges. "Hey look over here! A chunk of metal where you have to supply your own apple watch cable and you cannot wirelessly charge AirPods! It's exactly like airpower but much cheaper!"

Not.
 
I'm confused. How come these small Chinese startups can do it so well?

This is why I call BS.
You want to know my conspiracy theory?

It was ready , but with all the recent Apple backlash of price gouging etc they knew we would scream bloody murder at the pricing so they're probably waiting until they can sell it at a reasonable price and still make $.
Why can't you at least know some basic facts before asking this question? Again, Apple was not trying to produce a "me too" charging mat. They were going something that is STILL not available.
 
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