Apple Officially Delays macOS Monterey Universal Control Until Spring 2022

[chucker23n1]

My point was that this is not anything new under Tim Cook, Steve Jobs would delay a feature for nine months and barely let out a peep.

I think it's fair to say that, in the Jobs era, this was more rare. But that could simply be an issue of scale.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

I think it's fair to say that, in the Jobs era, this was more rare. But that could simply be an issue of scale.

I think it was more rare just because of the nature of how the software was mostly delivered, and scale as well.

 

[captobie]

Universal Control is the one where the mouse goes across screens...I have this feature. From my M1 Mac mini I can connect to my 12.9" iPad Pro and move the cursor between the 2 screens. I have Apple beta software on all of my devices. Perhaps beta testers still have this feature; I have it.

Not quite... I think you're confusing being able to use an iPad as a second Mac display which is a current feature. With Universal Control you can use your Mac keyboard and mouse to interact with your iPad, running iOS. That's not available yet.

 

[Abazigal]

I think it's fair to say that, in the Jobs era, this was more rare. But that could simply be an issue of scale.

My impression was that software features back then were a lot less complex as well. I mean, copy and paste, multitasking and notifications were spread out over three years of iOS updates.

 

[nsklaus]

I’m still cringing at the non-centered title bar titles and the tendency to hide everything possible “because we’re letting your content shine"

for me it's the hybrid fused together titlebar and toolbar of windows, i cannot stand it.
then, the new color theme.. white borders background on white content backgrount.. it's horrible.
macos gray gradient used to make the os beautiful.
now UI elements are very large, wasting space, their sizes is inconsistent, it's a mess.
i hope apple will do something about it.
maybe port flavours2 over. maybe just make an option to have the previous theme back.
maybe in a few years they will admit their mistake. like they did for the butterfly keyboard, and the touchbar, and the removal of ports on macbooks ..etc ..
maybe we should start a petition to ask apple to let us tweak our desktop themes ourselves.
before it was beautiful so there was nothing to say.
but now it's ugly and forced on us.

 

[hatchettjack]

Studies show productivity is better when people work from home instead of an office
You can read about it here

written by someone working at home, obviously! mandate cameras at there home workstations, and maybe it would work!

 

[Abazigal]

Studies show productivity is better when people work from home instead of an office
You can read about it here

I can also counter with an article on the limitations on working from home, the merits of being able to network with your colleagues in the office, and how a hybrid approach may be the best compromise.

What research says about how to make hybrid work succeed

Stanford's Nicholas Bloom says companies should adopt centralized hybrid work approaches.

www.charterworks.com

 

[nt5672]

But why? That’s my question

I guessing that Apple is more concerned about developers salary than they are with qualifications. It's either that or management has no clue about how to measure or don't care about software quality. Probably a bit of both.

 

[maxoakland]

I guessing that Apple is more concerned about developers salary than they are with qualifications. It's either that or management has no clue about how to measure or don't care about software quality. Probably a bit of both.

That would be really disappointing. What a foolish mistake if that’s the case

 

[maxoakland]

I can also counter with an article on the limitations on working from home, the merits of being able to network with your colleagues in the office, and how a hybrid approach may be the best compromise.

What research says about how to make hybrid work succeed

Stanford's Nicholas Bloom says companies should adopt centralized hybrid work approaches.

www.charterworks.com

So you’re saying you can counter a study with anecdotal evidence? That’s not useful or interesting at all

 

[Razorpit]

So you’re saying you can counter a study with anecdotal evidence? That’s not useful or interesting at all

I think you broke your own argument. 😄

 

[I WAS the one]

This is yet more evidence that Apple's software engineering processes are broken. The release cycle is nonsense and results in unfinished features and products shipping with serious delays or not shipping at all.

I never thought I would say this, but Microsoft's release cadence is now making a lot more sense than Apple's. In the old days, it was torturous waiting months or even years for Microsoft to ship service packs to fix problems, but with Microsoft's current practice of releasing fixes every month and then releasing significant updates twice every year on a regular schedule—without releasing an entirely new OS, thus preserving stability—they are putting Apple to shame. Windows 10 is a very stable and predictable product at this point.

macOS is not a stable product—especially at release time. Apple needs to stop throwing stuff out the door and rethink how they approach their release and development schedules. They are embarrassing themselves and making life a lot harder for their customers.

Tell that to Gruber (Daring Fireball author) I ask him Why Apple is not paying attention to OS like before, and he went Rambo on me saying Apple don't abandon one work for other, suggesting Apple have teams for each needs. True, but they're losing control, and we can know simply by noticing bugs that weren't there before.

 

[I WAS the one]

Why is this feature so hard to get right?

is not hard to get it's hard to enable it on old systems. I thought it was going to be just for m1s but it seems they want to use something like rosetta to enable the feature on intel and old machines as well. The demo was just M1.They need to forget about old users and just launch it to M1 users. It is what it is.

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UPDATE:
I was right. It will be just for M1s

 

[nebojsak]

Yeah, from all reviews and articles from back then, 10.0, and even 10.1 and 10.2 were not even close to ready for prime time.
10.1 actually was given out for free for people who bought 10.0, because its main objective was just to fix everything.

That's right, but things settled down with Panther. I remember enjoying Tiger 10.4.0 ootb. 10.5. Leopard took .2 or so update to be fully functional. Not to mention Snow Leopard...

 

[nebojsak]

My impression was that software features back then were a lot less complex as well. I mean, copy and paste, multitasking and notifications were spread out over three years of iOS updates.

Might be. Another reason for min 2 years cycle for a major OS upgrade.

 

[chucker23n1]

Yeah, from all reviews and articles from back then, 10.0, and even 10.1 and 10.2 were not even close to ready for prime time.
10.1 actually was given out for free for people who bought 10.0, because its main objective was just to fix everything.

Yes. 10.0 and 10.1 were… frankly more of a (quite impressive) tech demo. 10.0 didn't even have stuff like CD burning and DVD playback, neither of which matter today but both of which were quite relevant at the time. 10.2 added significant features like Rendezvous (now Bonjour). 10.3 added Exposé (now Mission Control). Each of those releases also added various tech to speed things up. For example, 10.2 added Quartz Extreme, which moved a lot of drawing code from the CPU to the GPU.

Somewhere between 10.2 and 10.4 is when Mac OS X got better in almost every way than Mac OS 9.

 

[I WAS the one]

I'm 47, If you asked me... I would love to have Mac OS 9.5 back in my life with today's technology.

 

[chucker23n1]

Boy, the heavily aliased italic text on those icons did not age well.

 

[I WAS the one]

Boy, the heavily aliased italic text on those icons did not age well.

Arrow is annoying as well. LMAO

 

[CheesegraterMac]

Universal Control is the one where the mouse goes across screens...I have this feature. From my M1 Mac mini I can connect to my 12.9" iPad Pro and move the cursor between the 2 screens. I have Apple beta software on all of my devices. Perhaps beta testers still have this feature; I have it.

Nice, I can expect it to release between 12.2-12.5