Apple Officially Delays macOS Monterey Universal Control Until Spring 2022

[poematik13]

Studies show productivity is better when people work from home instead of an office
You can read about it here

I think you're confusing productivity with comfort lmao

 

[maxoakland]

I think you're confusing productivity with comfort lmao

You didn’t even read it did you

 

[MacBH928]

At no point in Mac OS history was there a 3-4 year release cycle. Probably the largest gap was between 10.4 Tiger and 10.5 Leopard, and that (2.5 years) wasn't planned to be as large.

system 7 released 1991 system 8 1997= 6 years. Either way I get what you saying, you probably meant OS X but then there was so much to be added and improved. The modern OS is mature and could use more bug fixing and stability than useless flashy features .

 

[chucker23n1]

system 7 released 1991 system 8 1997= 6 years.

7.1, 7.5 (especially) and 7.6 were releases so major, they compete directly against release like 10.4 Tiger or 11.0 Big Sur.

I mean, if we’re going just by digits, there were 19 years between 10.0 and 11.0.

Either way I get what you saying, you probably meant OS X

Nope.

but then there was so much to be added and improved. The modern OS is mature and could use more bug fixing and stability than useless flashy features .

Sure, and a cycle of maybe two years might help that.

 

[Haiku_Oezu]

Disappointing because it’s the one feature I was looking forward to but not at all unexpected considering it’s a macOS and iOS joint effort
Problems need to be ironed out on both side most likely

I’m more worried about the fact that my verbatim usb stick still doesn’t work on Monterey, honestly

 

[nt5672]

What’s changed since then?

Quality.

 

[gwhizkids]

In the meantime just use Barrier the open source software that accomplishes the same thing.

Barrier allows you to grab files from an iPad while using your Mac trackpad? I suspect not.

People seem to be thinking that this is just SideCar again. It’s not. Now, I don’t know how many people will have a compelling use case for this, but it is not simply allowing you to have a wireless monitor.

 

[nsklaus]

dear apple, the new theme refresh since big sur is such a step down. please bring back good looking macos. thanks.

 

[antiprotest]

Maybe they can give us a few screensavers to make up for it. Can they at least do that while working at home? Or is everything beyond new emojis too difficult now?

 

[seeker_sleeper]

Spring as in March? As in the next version of macOS will be released to devs post WWDC? Cool. Spring means it’s probably going to pop up after wwdc dev betas. Aw I remember like it was only last wwdc this feature was announced.

 

[chucker23n1]

Spring as in March? As in the next version of macOS will be released to devs post WWDC? Cool. Spring means it’s probably going to pop up after wwdc dev betas. Aw I remember like it was only last wwdc this feature was announced.

WWDC is in June.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

I miss steve when things released they actually made your life better, not just a media bang to grab attention and tell people you actually need to upgrade your software last year's is too old.



They should go back to 3-4 year release cycle. I am still on Mojave and I know nothing that Big Sur or Montery does that makes your life better and I am missing on. A working software better than a broken software, not to mention they don't make money on sales of MacOS so they are not losing anything.

There is no way some new innovation happens in 1 year time.

There was never a 3 to 4 years cycle, at least not since the early 90s when System seven was the latest version of Mac OS for about 6 years.
In fact, OS X was originally on a yearly cycle.
10.0: March 2001
10.1: Sept 2001
10.2: August 2002
10.3: October 2003
It was really only between 10.4 and 10.6 where Apple moved to an 18-30 month schedule, and that was mainly due to development on the iPod, iPhone and iPad.
Also, actually go back and read those reviews of the initial releases of old versions of OS X. Some of them were not pretty, and had several features that weren’t in the initial release
Especially 10.0 through 10.2

 

[Razorpit]

I was on the outside looking in back then. I was going to get get a Mac and my buddy told me to wait for the release of 10 and the new machines that would run it.

I remember 10.0 being amazing and a mess all at the same time. Unfortunately things were bad enough that it delayed my personal entry to the Mac platform.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

system 7 released 1991 system 8 1997

Um… maybe you don’t really know your Apple history but in those 6 years they tried working on a modern OS several times and all of them ended up getting scrapped, they lost a ton of marketshare and money, they tried to enter several absolutely bizarre markets like televisions, gaming consuls and PDAs, Steve Jobs was nowhere to be found, Mac clones became a thing, The hardware division was pumping out tons and tons of different models with barely anything different between them, and the company almost went bankrupt.
Not really hyped to see anything like that happen again with my preferred computer company

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

dear apple, the new theme refresh since big sur is such a step down. please bring back good looking macos. thanks.

Meh, people say this every time they change the look of the operating system.
First there were too many stripes, then the brushed metal windows were ugly, then the transparent menu bar and 3-D dock were corny, then the leather calendar and green game center were awful, then it was too flat, now it’s two square and iPadi, so really no matter what they do with the design of the operating system, not everyone is going to be happy

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Maybe they can give us a few screensavers to make up for it. Can they at least do that while working at home? Or is everything beyond new emojis too difficult now?

We just got three brand-new screensavers in the past two years or so, drift and Hello with big sir and Monterey with Monterey.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

I was on the outside looking in back then. I was going to get get a Mac and my buddy told me to wait for the release of 10 and the new machines that would run it.

I remember 10.0 being amazing and a mess all at the same time. Unfortunately things were bad enough that it delayed my personal entry to the Mac platform.

Yeah, from all reviews and articles from back then, 10.0, and even 10.1 and 10.2 were not even close to ready for prime time.
10.1 actually was given out for free for people who bought 10.0, because its main objective was just to fix everything.

 

[sracer]

This is what happens when people are still working from home. Planning and executing becomes very hard, even for Apple.

I believe that is more a reflection of Apple's corporate culture than anything inherent in remote and distributed teams.

One of the last projects I worked on during my career with IBM was an AI-driven app that automated the maintenance, configuring, and troubleshoot of user workstations within the entire corporation. Our team was distributed between NY, AZ, FL (in the 'States), Brazil, Japan, and Germany.

Being distributed and remote did not impede the quality or timeliness of the deliverables.

If stodgy, old-dinosaur IBM could pull it off (10 years ago), surely hip and with-it Apple can do at least as good.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Another big example of a software feature Steve Jobs completely missed the ball on was push notifications.
June 2008:

Apple Previews iPhone Firmware 2.0, Additional SDK Notes

At today's Worldwide Developers Conference Keynote address, Apple previewed iPhone Firmware 2.0 and highlighted some additional features of the...

www.macrumors.com

“In addition, Apple announced a method for developers to have their applications receive information while not in use. Apple had previously said that they would not allow background applications to run on the iPhone, to the widespread dismay of developers who need such functionality to server-side information. As a response, Apple has implemented a notification feature into the SDK which will allow applications to be alerted of server-side events (i.e. new IM received, new mail, etc) without having to run in the background and eat CPU cycles. This functionality is scheduled to be delivered in September, however it will be seeded to developers "soon."

October 2008, a month after it was supposed to release:

Apple Misses September Deadline for 'Push' Notifications

Macworld correctly notes that Apple has missed their deadline for a September release of background Push notifications for the iPhone. At WWDC,...

www.macrumors.com

Seven months of silence…

March 2009:

Highlights of Apple's iPhone OS 3.0 Preview: Copy and Paste, A2DP, MMS, Much More

Apple today hosted a preview event for its upcoming iPhone OS 3.0, highlighting a few of over 1,000 new APIs for developers and over 100 new features...

www.macrumors.com

“Rather than using background processes that hamper battery life, utilize third-party server to push badge, text, and audio alerts from applications.”

April 2009:

Apple Turns on Push Notification Services for Developer Testing

Apple notified developers yesterday that Push notifications have been turned on and that iPhone developers can now start testing their applications...

www.macrumors.com

June 2009: it finally launches!!! 373 days after being announced, 260 days after the deadline they set for themselves, on 3.0 instead of 2.0.
So yeah, Steve Jobs delayed features too

 

[chucker23n1]

Another big example of a software feature Steve Jobs completely missed the ball on was push notifications.
June 2008:

Apple Previews iPhone Firmware 2.0, Additional SDK Notes

At today's Worldwide Developers Conference Keynote address, Apple previewed iPhone Firmware 2.0 and highlighted some additional features of the...

www.macrumors.com

“In addition, Apple announced a method for developers to have their applications receive information while not in use. Apple had previously said that they would not allow background applications to run on the iPhone, to the widespread dismay of developers who need such functionality to server-side information. As a response, Apple has implemented a notification feature into the SDK which will allow applications to be alerted of server-side events (i.e. new IM received, new mail, etc) without having to run in the background and eat CPU cycles. This functionality is scheduled to be delivered in September, however it will be seeded to developers "soon."

October 2008, a month after it was supposed to release:

Apple Misses September Deadline for 'Push' Notifications

Macworld correctly notes that Apple has missed their deadline for a September release of background Push notifications for the iPhone. At WWDC,...

www.macrumors.com

Seven months of silence…

March 2009:

Highlights of Apple's iPhone OS 3.0 Preview: Copy and Paste, A2DP, MMS, Much More

Apple today hosted a preview event for its upcoming iPhone OS 3.0, highlighting a few of over 1,000 new APIs for developers and over 100 new features...

www.macrumors.com

“Rather than using background processes that hamper battery life, utilize third-party server to push badge, text, and audio alerts from applications.”

April 2009:

Apple Turns on Push Notification Services for Developer Testing

Apple notified developers yesterday that Push notifications have been turned on and that iPhone developers can now start testing their applications...

www.macrumors.com

June 2009: it finally launches!!! 373 days after being announced, 260 days after the deadline they set for themselves, on 3.0 instead of 2.0.
So yeah, Steve Jobs delayed features too

Given that none of us remember this, it's also a great example of how such delays do not matter in the grand scheme of things.

I mean, it is nice when Apple announces a feature and says "it's available Today". But it's also not the end of the world.

If anything, I'd argue that the delay of Push Notifications was a way bigger deal, because without them, apps were severely limited. With Universal Control, yeah, that's a nice feature, but macOS worked fine for two decades without it, and Monterey is a perfectly fine (if boring) release without it, too.

 

[maxoakland]

Quality.

But why? That’s my question

 

[maxoakland]

dear apple, the new theme refresh since big sur is such a step down. please bring back good looking macos. thanks.

I’m still cringing at the non-centered title bar titles and the tendency to hide everything possible “because we’re letting your content shine"

 

[iHorseHead]

And they want everyone to move to Apple silicon when they can't get the features in their new os out in a timely fashion.

But Apple has always wanted people to buy new laptops?
dosdude1 patches prove it as well.
It's the same as Microsoft with Windows 11.

 

[techfreak23]

Really the only feature I was looking forward to. I installed the first developer betas specifically for it, only for them to never enable it. I hope it's still coming. Sounds like they're having a lot of issues though and just can't get it quite right.

I knew what they showed on stage had to be a very specific demo like the Photos app back with the original iPhone keynote.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Given that none of us remember this, it's also a great example of how such delays do not matter in the grand scheme of things.

I mean, it is nice when Apple announces a feature and says "it's available Today". But it's also not the end of the world.

If anything, I'd argue that the delay of Push Notifications was a way bigger deal, because without them, apps were severely limited. With Universal Control, yeah, that's a nice feature, but macOS worked fine for two decades without it, and Monterey is a perfectly fine (if boring) release without it, too.

Yes yes, I don’t think it’s that important either.
My point was that this is not anything new under Tim Cook, Steve Jobs would delay a feature for nine months and barely let out a peep.
As for hardware… well… anyone remember the white iPhone 4?