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It's one of the few WiFi routers my cat can't kill by laying on top of it :( I have really limited space, and there's no place I can put a flat router where my can't lay on top of it. She's killed 2 ASUS routers already.
 
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Totally agree. It doesn't make sense to me that the "It Just Works" company would take this part of their ecosystem away. What about HomeKit integration, etc? Handoff? Airplay? Is all that expected to be seamless through a Brand X 3rd party router?

Yes. It has to be, because few people today are going to replace the system that came from and was set up by their provider. In today’s market there is no way for Apple to assume anything else. They have to support ISP-provided devices as well as their own, and at that point why have their own?

I expect the only reason they’ve kept them on the market this long is that their engineers used them. But there are now decent solutions for engineers to use, too.
 
How did they get around Apple's proprietary requirements for Time Machine?

I've had a Linux server running various versions of Samba and AFP for years, and it's always been a HUGE pain in the ass to get Time Machine to work with it. I've had to employ hacks, some on the Mac and some on the server, to get it to work, and on top of all that it was unreliable.

In the end I bought a Time Capsule since I was tired of fighting Apple on this. The sever's shares STILL don't show up as being Time Machine capable today.

The hard drive on the TC recently failed, so I'm using an external USB drive now. But it'd be nice to do it networked again so the drive can be shared between my iMac and MBP.

How are Asus and other router makers getting around Apple's finicky nature with networked Time Machine?


Apple has published the document
Time Machine over SMB Specification

https://developer.apple.com/library...gInternetWeb/Time_Machine_SMB_Spec/index.html

My hope is that this is enough information for router makers to support networked Time Machine properly.
 
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No - but what got Apple to the top once was the eco-system. If I purchased a MacBook Pro in 2012 I could get a MacBook Pro with Magsafe (I could see if my battery was charging or not + magnet for safety), I could charge my iPhone with the USB ports, I could buy an Apple Display to hook up with my MacBook Pro and also buy a AirPort Extreme to get my network set up in literally 10 minutes. That took Apple to the top.

We don't have that anymore, any of it actually.
You nailed it.
 
Totally agree. It doesn't make sense to me that the "It Just Works" company would take this part of their ecosystem away. What about HomeKit integration, etc? Handoff? Airplay? Is all that expected to be seamless through a Brand X 3rd party router? I'm very disappointed about this. Seamless integration is Apple's whole selling point over any other brand. Software and hardware, remember? I fear we are headed for "It Might Work".
Apple TV and the new HomePod class of products will occupy this space, replacing the AirPort hardware and offering AirPlay 2, HomeKit, and a Siri that actually does something.
 
Has anyone tested the Airport Utility (ver. 5 or 6) on High Sierra or Windows 10? Does it still work?
Is it 32 or 64-bit?
 
I would hope the general public, given recent data breaches and legal issues, would be wary of turning over the keys to their entire digital life to a cloud provider like that. But then again, Google is top of the game so I think I am answering my own question.

I wouldn't trust my data to Google. I'm confident in Apple and how much importance they give to designing their products and services for privacy. Our iPhones are already backed up to iCloud and no doubt that our iPhones are our most private devices, not Macs.
 
My Airports have worked flawlessly over the decades. While the hardware may not be state-of-the-art according to some, that detail is secondary to the ease of setup and monitoring that the accompanying Airport Utility software provided. Add to that the excellent support documentation and third party guides. Many alternative home networks are unsecure and inefficient because owners couldn’t understand the setup options.
 
Is it worth getting one right now while supplies last ?

What are the pros/cons of deciding to buy one now vs going with another router ?

and anyone have suggestion for what the next best router is that's comparable to an airport extreme in terms of:

simplicity, ease of use, reliability, and price ?
 
Has anyone tested the Airport Utility (ver. 5 or 6) on High Sierra or Windows 10? Does it still work? Is it 32 or 64-bit?
Yes, it does. Version 6.3.8 is 64-bit. You'll need the hacked version to configure older base stations and Express units; that one is 32-bit.
 
What is Tim Cook doing to Apple?! What the point of Apple Stores other than repair centres?

I knew the official announcement was coming but what a waste of engineering talent that could of made a modem/router for the world market with the best security and support, a product vitally essential for the internet and home network, which existing Apple products rely upon.
 
NetGear, Synology, and Qnap all make great products that support Time Machine. Paired with a robust WiFi router, you’re solid. True it’s more work than a simple elegant Apple solution, but extremely powerful and exapandable.
 
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When do you foresee this happening? Anytime before 2025?
It's happening now. Apple TV as a HomeKit hub was the first step; now compatible with hundreds of products. The HomePod class will continue to evolve into a complete audio solution with AirPlay 2.
 
Edit, just in case the point isn’t clear: The Mac is no longer the center of the ecosystem. It never will be again. The “center” is now iOS devices and specifically the iPhone, and it’s not going back.
And this has been clear for some time now. With Mac's only being 5% or so of revenues, I don't understand why people are always shocked by such moves.
 
Hyperbole much? If this was a massive seller then it wouldn’t have been cut, just like their $1000 monitors. What got them to the top were music players, and then phones which incorporated those music players. Everything else was limited in scope and adoption even among Apple users. I doubt that 1% of iPhone users in any single recent quarter purchased an Airport device in the past 3-5 years.

Please use some sense. Apple didn't market it for years, didn't improve it for years, totally forgot about it, Tim Cook wasn't interested in it, the engineers were let go, and it was rumored for the last year that they are stopping it.... use some of your sense to realise that this is the reason why.
 
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AmpliFi HD units with Ethernet backhaul. Great so far.

So do you have 2 of the Amplifi cubes? Do you also have any of the wireless mesh points?

Right now I have 2 Airport Extreme's hardwired to provide full house WiFi. I really don't want just a single router and wireless mesh points....I'd prefer at least 2 hard wired routers.
 
It's happening now. Apple TV as a HomeKit hub was the first step; now compatible with hundreds of products. The HomePod class will continue to evolve into a complete audio solution with AirPlay 2.
That’s not what asked. My question is when do you think Apple TV or HomePod will replace AirPort?
 
Tim Cook is not an IT guy, but pure salesman. Good for the stock, bad for the users...what does it mean practically? We have a dozen iPhones or iPads to chose from, but Macs themselves and accessories like Airport are badly designed (Pro series), not updated (Mini) or just discontinued. It‘s a shame.

Agree. Very disappointing and sad that Tim Cook is leading Apple down this road.
 
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