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About time Apple made this news official.

Even back in 2013, the AirPort Extreme didn't stand out from others in terms of routing performance.

Either be the best in the market or go home. Apple made the right decision.

I respectfully disagree. Normal consumer WiFi routers had very poor performance in my house due to the massive amount of rebar concrete in the walls and floors. (Standard building practice here). My single AirPort Extreme (old model, kinda looks like a Mac mini) could supply my entire house. When the news broke that Apple was discontinuing (not unexpected) I replaced that aging setup with two ubiquiti AC-PRO AP’s to do the same. (Spread over two floors, they hand off clients to each other).

My personal and professional experience is that the airport (extreme) outclassed all the consumer level stuff and even some of the professional stuff.
 
So what do people recommend (that isn't Google WiFi)?



Edit: People have so far suggested....

  • Eero
  • NETGEAR Nighthawk
  • NETGEAR Orbi
  • Asus RT-AC68U
  • Luma
  • AmpliFi HD
  • Ubiquiti UniFi

I got a chance to test Orbi, Velop, AmpliFi HD, Eero, and Deco a few months back. Orbi was fast but plagued with firmware problems. I really liked AmpliFI in many ways, same with Eero, but nothing else performed nearly as well as Velop. Deco was a great budget setup.

I've continued to use Velop and it's been pretty solid so far. I think we had to power cycle it once in the span of a few months.

I should add that I'm not using the router functions, so I would have gone with basic AP's rather than mesh if not for some cabling difficulties.
 
Hyperbole much? If this was a massive seller then it wouldn’t have been cut, just like their $1000 monitors. What got them to the top were music players, and then phones which incorporated those music players. Everything else was limited in scope and adoption even among Apple users. I doubt that 1% of iPhone users in any single recent quarter purchased an Airport device in the past 3-5 years.

Yeah, but that’s because they last. I probably haven’t purchased one in the past 3-5 years, but I do use one. And I thought my next router was almost certainly going to be one until this news came out.
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However the market has matured and it isn’t a core business. That said, Time Capsule integration was nice (though sometimes better in theory than in practice).

So what? Why does it have to be a core business to stick around? If that logic applied to everything we wouldn’t have the term “core business” because everything would be one.
 
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Hyperbole much? If this was a massive seller then it wouldn’t have been cut, just like their $1000 monitors. What got them to the top were music players, and then phones which incorporated those music players. Everything else was limited in scope and adoption even among Apple users. I doubt that 1% of iPhone users in any single recent quarter purchased an Airport device in the past 3-5 years.

Many people benefit from a rock solid, easy to use WiFi setup that exists as part of them local Apple ecosystem. This is going to be sorely missed by a lot of people, regardless of the direct revenue implications.

I hate this move, but honestly Apple has been losing me anyways. I'm in a space where I'll rarely change phones unless I have to. Meanwhile I really want a new Mac Pro and Mini. Apple basically missed 2 full upgrade cycles from me on those failures. About the only thing I find compelling is the iPad.
 
A sad day for Apple. Now I just have to decide if it’s worth buying one now just to have an extra. Frankly, my current one will probably last another 5 years anyway.
 
Steve Jobs: "I'm going to sell people things they didn't know they wanted."
Tim Cook: "I'm going to stop selling things people know they want, but I won't provide an alternative."

I think it is more like:
Steve Jobs: "I'm going to sell people things they didn't know they wanted."
Tim Cook: "I'm going to sell people a lesser version of what they already have. Products we can't make lesser, we're just going ignore until they die"​
 
About time Apple made this news official.

Even back in 2013, the AirPort Extreme didn't stand out from others in terms of routing performance.

Either be the best in the market or go home. Apple made the right decision.

Contrary to this glory day of Apple haters, it was an excellent router. The bad thing is that the idiot in charge discontinued them, and I have to buy a few spares for the future since they will not be available anymore.
 
And yet its still at the top.
Perhaps in the phone market but it's been a while since they were at the "top" of the desktop/laptop market. That side of things has been running on momentum and past glories for a number of years now. MacBooks are no longer the first choice of students and, unless you're specifically developing software for Apple products, iOS and Macs are no longer the place where leading design and development is happening.

Apple thrived though having a walled garden that provided everything. Dismantling the walls sounds good but the net result is that, without compelling products, people have less and less reason to stay in the garden.
 
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It's about customer service, customer experience, and design.

Buy a Mac, buy an elegantly designed TC, and they just work.

Buy a Mac now and one of those freaking bits of plastic with spider-leg antennae and you're left with the headache of disappointing choices, poor functionality, ghastly aesthetics, and a hamstrung customer experience.

I switched to Mac in 2007 as I was sick of the fragmented world of Windows PCs and networking nightmares.

For a company the size of Apple to decide not to support its customers is bewildering. Even if Apple loses money on its TC business as a standalone enterprise, it makes money by brining people like me (my family and friends) into the Apple ecosystem: a marketing expense that it should keep investing in.

I completely understand that Apple no longer wants people like me, my friends, and family, although that is very odd, because I reckon we represent a fair cross section of Apple's user base.

Will we all junk our Apple products now that Apple has indicated it no longer wants our business? I expect that in time a large percentage of us will. The iPhone, Watch, and HomePod simply don't offer enough in terms of uniqueness or quality, especially if we have to pair them with one of those freaking bits of plastic with spider-leg antennae.
 
I got a kick out of the Eero web site. It has a quiz that will help you determine how many Eero's you will need. Based on my house, I need 1 Eero and 2 beacons to get good coverage. Yet, I get great coverage with just 1 TC. Go figure.
 
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Our Airport Extreme is equipped with 2 external hard disks for back-ups for our 2 computers. Works very well !
I going to buy a spare Airport Express (have 3 in operation) and sit it out out for the coming 10 years or so waiting for Apple to change their mind. I do not trust other (Chinese?) router brands...
 
Disappointing but not surprising. While not the "best" anymore they are still the easiest to use if you have an Apple-heavy ecosystem.

Any router & networking hardware is easy to use. It mostly takes care of itself and in most cases it's good to go straight out of the box. Configuration/customisation is done via a web GUI and couldn't be easier.

At home I have a 2TB Time Capsule and a few AirPort expresses scattered around to extend the range. This kind of set-up is easily replaceable with hardware from many other vendors.
 
I try to be optimistic. Apple just created a business opportunity for others. Maybe this encourages router oems to properly implement time machine via smb. And there are still plenty of old sound system laying around that could be easily upgraded with an airplay 2 compatible device (airport express style).
 
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Just bought a refurb AirPort Extreme last year for half the price. At the time it still was one of the best in the industry. I've been using Apple wireless routers for over a decade now, since they are so easy and reliable to use.

I went through 2 airport expresses, for some reason they both only lasted 2 years before dying on me.
 
Our Airport Extreme is equipped with 2 external hard disks for back-ups for our 2 computers. Works very well !
I going to buy a spare Airport Express (have 3 in operation) and sit it out out for the coming 10 years or so waiting for Apple to change their mind. I do not trust other (Chinese?) router brands...

Yes, because the USA are soooo trustworthy and have never been caught snooping on people have they.

The components in all Apple hardware are manufactured in China. The wireless/networking components in all devices Chinese made.

I heard China even make a good range of tin foil hats.
 
They’ve been neglecting what was their main business: Macs and all accessories related to them. I don’t think Jobs would’ve done the same thing.

Of course he would. iPhone shot past Mac revenue in 2010 and by end of 2011 even iPad revenue was above Mac.
Steve Jobs' vision of the future of computing was the iPad. You know, the post-PC era.
 
Let Cook sell this once-best-of-its-class technology - even to Michael Dell - instead of starving it off. This is outright betrayal (yes, betrayal) of what Steve has accomplished (and how Tom got his job in the first place)
 
I've murdered a few Airport Expresses somehow. Not sure if it was power surges or packet storms on my LAN (I accidentally had a loop in a tangle of 100 ethernet connections). Now I'm extra sad that they're gone.
Broadcast storms aren't really a thing anymore, at least in enterprise networking equipment. I'm not sure about the consumer tech. STP isn't terribly expensive to run though, so you'd think they'd support it.
 
The ecosystem is slowly going down... one day Mr. Cook will wake up to realise he cannot sell us the mirage anymore because there's nothing left.
The Mac line is really suffering from a complete lack of understanding of user needs (see the Touch Bar, the USB ports, even the MagSafe which saved at least 4 times my laptop).
Apple is focusing on the $$$ and unfortunately the message of the "Crazy Ones" campaign will soon be no more. For me that was the company's DNA, the fact that it supported, understood and helped people to create new things, to develop, to push things forward. And you cannot do that with emojis, ignoring the Mac line and abandoning important pieces of hardware cause other lines of work provide more profit.
Steve Job's spirit is slowly diminishing and the typical corporate profit-driven decisions are replacing it. Soon we will have to part ways I'm afraid ::(
 
While I understand everyone’s annoyance over Apple neglecting yet another product which they have come to love and rely on, I think much of the criticism here is unjustified.

For one, people are not buying iPhones and iPads because they are using an AirPort router in their house. It's a silly assertion. In addition, needing to buy a third-party wireless router is not going to lower the value found with the broad Apple ecosystem that includes smartphones, tablets, smartwatches, laptops, desktops, and the software/services that combines it all.

Apple likely made the decision that there just wasn’t any point to continue dedicating resources and attention to take on chipmakers like Broadcom in order to come out with some kind of differentiated router. Instead, it would make more sense to just remove the features from AirPort routers that users do want, like wireless music playback, and put the functionality into new kinds of Apple device.

For example, we have the homepod, which handles airplay. Apple TV handles HomeKit. We will likely see other products in the future which replicate any other desired functionality of the airport routers.

Overall, I think this is a good move by Apple. I don’t think this decision is being driven by money. Instead, management is simply reallocating precious resources on products that can utilize Apple hardware, software, and services to produce an experience that improves users lives.

Apple management is neither being clueless nor reckless here.
 
Never owned one, never will. There is hardware from other vendors which offer significantly more capability.

I rolled my own networking gear with:
 
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