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Apple on iPhone 4 Reception: Signal Strength Display Issue Only, Software Update Coming
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Your requests all seem reasonable to me. Let us know how it goes. AT&T should do right by you, but you never know.
While I don't seem to have much of an issue in day to day usage I'm not sure how this update will fix what people are really complaining about.
My natural grip happens to be one that doesn't interfere with the signal. That's great for me but I can't see how the update will help anyone who likes to hold it in a way that the signal goes to nothing.
Here are data speeds I took about 20 minutes ago. The first is a capture of all results. The top right image is with the phone on my table without touching it (not sure why the ping number was so high). The bottom left is me holding the phone vertically...the way I'd normally have it when surfing the web, playing a game, etc. The bottom right is me holding it in a way that simulates the "death grip" but I wasn't holding it tightly. Just cupping the phone so the whole side and bottom left was covered.
I'm keeping my phone since I have no reception issues and all else seems great. So that's great for me, although I don't see how people with major problems will be helped with more accurate signal bars.
I hope those who say there's probably more to the update that they aren't talking about are correct.
My natural grip happens to be one that doesn't interfere with the signal. That's great for me but I can't see how the update will help anyone who likes to hold it in a way that the signal goes to nothing.
Here are data speeds I took about 20 minutes ago. The first is a capture of all results. The top right image is with the phone on my table without touching it (not sure why the ping number was so high). The bottom left is me holding the phone vertically...the way I'd normally have it when surfing the web, playing a game, etc. The bottom right is me holding it in a way that simulates the "death grip" but I wasn't holding it tightly. Just cupping the phone so the whole side and bottom left was covered.
I'm keeping my phone since I have no reception issues and all else seems great. So that's great for me, although I don't see how people with major problems will be helped with more accurate signal bars.
I hope those who say there's probably more to the update that they aren't talking about are correct.
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LOL, this is total crap. The phone is not just dropping bars to display actual data throughput. It really is dropping data throughput, too.
As well as O2 (UK), Bouygues/Orange/SFR (France), T-Mobile (Germany) and SoftBank (Japan), neither of which sucked before? Customers in those countries are having these iPhone 4 problems too. Apple is lucky that American customers are so far up their own a**es they think AT&T is the only carrier in the world. Thanks to this they can always play the "blame AT&T" card.
yeah 850k seems like a stretch.. 0% of the people i know have issues... if there were a poll asking whether or not you are experiencing IP4 reception issues, something tells me the number of votes would be higher than the number of IP4s sold...like dead pets voting in elections.
are you joking? use your common logic or sense, which ever works for you. if all the ip4s around me working fine(including mine) and few phones go bad, how can it be a design problem.
are you for real?
Haha....NO WAY. That's not logical. How does this change the fact that when I hold my iphone 4 the wrong way, I drop a call in the same locations where I never dropped a call with my 3gs. Iphone 4 may have better reception overall, but I'm consistantly dropping calls if I hold it the wrong way. I could hold the 3gs in any manner in those same locations and never drop a call. I believe this is a hardware issue until proven otherwise.
You don't think those of us complaining like our iPhone 4's? Why do you think we are so mad? We like Apple, we love the phone, we just want the damn thing to work at least as well as our 3G/3GS's did as a phone. Most of us will keep them and live with the dropped calls and poor reception because we love everything else about the phone.
We were also the ones waiting in lines and waking up at 4am to pre-order like you. We feel like we've been treated like **** by Jobs and Apple, with each statement more laughable then the previous. We're sick of those without the issues acting like it's a big conspiracy or a plot to bring down Apple, it's a real f'n problem. And you don't have the issues, then why the hell come into threads clearly labeled for the issue?!
This complete bull it would be one thing if I covered the black strip and lost bars but retained signal strength but that is not the case when i cover the black strip during loading of a web page or a phone call the page stops loading or I drop the phone call. Come on that is without a doubt a hardware problem, I live in San Francisco one of the major cities in the US and your telling me i should only be getting 1 bar of signal! Apple needs to grow up and address the real problem!
People are 'shouting' their pie holes...on both sides.. that's the problem...
oh, you meant... shut
I don't understand why people are so offended by the complaints about this phone that they have to go on crusades to shut people up (rather than not enter the threads). ThatGuySmells has made about 30 posts in this thread repeating the same thing like some autistic who just drank a liter of coffee. Get a grip, weirdo.
The difference is, that iPhone and Apple has such a huge mindshare, that everything they do is scrutinized. We have already had YouTube-videos on Nokia-phones having this exact same problem, Anandtech documented this happening in an Android-phone, there were discussions about Nexus One losing signal-strength when held in certain way....
So no one who keeps repeating "then return it" wants to comment on my question?
If ALL phones suffer from the same issue as the iPhone does re: reception - what difference does it make. Why return it?
Indeed. Perhaps you aren't responding because you realize the hypocrisy there. No one is arguing whether or not they have a choice. People are arguing that the press release issued today doesn't address the REAL issue. It addresses something else entirely.
If ALL phones suffer from the same issue as the iPhone does re: reception - what difference does it make. Why return it?
Indeed. Perhaps you aren't responding because you realize the hypocrisy there. No one is arguing whether or not they have a choice. People are arguing that the press release issued today doesn't address the REAL issue. It addresses something else entirely.
Actually he did return it. I am not posting here to let out my frustration. I am posting here because I am sick and tired of all the Apple fanboys running to defend Apple when Apple clearly has a defect in their product yet refuses to acknowledge it! There are so many people on this forum with their heads in the sand it is ridiculous!
Here's a video from someone else with the same issue:
http://9to5mac.com/node/18982
And on the opposite side of the spectrum:
How can I believe it's a hardware issue when mine works fine, even if I do monkey death grip? (BTW the previous phones don't have an easy spot to attenuate the signal but covering the antenna area will still cause signal loss)
I have not experienced GSM reception problems, but I don't live in a 3G area, so maybe that is why.
What I do know is that the Wifi reception is FAR superior in my iPhone 4 compared to iPhone 3G. Not even comparable. The iPhone 3G Wifi reception is a joke.
What I do know is that the Wifi reception is FAR superior in my iPhone 4 compared to iPhone 3G. Not even comparable. The iPhone 3G Wifi reception is a joke.
I wonder, if I return my Phone now, I do get my money credited back but do I also get rid of that new extended contract with ATT that came with the phone? Or am I stuck with ATT for the next 2 years no matter what.
I upgraded from a 3GS to iPhone 4, this is already my 2nd i4 and still have trouble which is really annoying me.
I upgraded from a 3GS to iPhone 4, this is already my 2nd i4 and still have trouble which is really annoying me.
Because not all phones use the same exact antenna array, setup, or exact placement within the device. It's perfectly acceptable to say that any phone with an antenna will suffer signal loss when the antenna is covered or the signal is interrupted, some suffer a greater impact.
The reason no one is responding is because your response is a bit childish; "well if they all do it why bother". You know as well as anyone else there is variance from device to device.
you, sir, are the most uneducated person on these forums, not to mention you can't make an argument to save your life, you resort to name calling and mocking like a 5 year old. it's sad that people like you exist .