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It's not that we're saying "return it because it has signal issues," we're saying "if you are unhappy with the phone, then return it." If you're unhappy with any phone, iphone or not, return it.
What if I love the phone but would like the problem fixed? Should I return it or sit on my hands to make you happy? Please, this is all about your forum experience. You matter the most.
 
Go and RETURN THE PHONE! Switch to Verizon and quit crying like a little girl. You want a tissue?

Wow, resorting to personal attacks, huh? That's very mature of you.

The phone's actually been returned, but that doesn't change the fact that Apple should acknowledge some people are having real problems with these phones and not just signal representation issues.
 
Use google maps, it will give you turn by turn directions to the nearest apple store.

Do you work for apple or something? :) I'm glad you are not having an issue but MANY people are experiencing a problem that is unacceptable. It's a great device overall, but it's still supposed to be a phone at heart. For a phone this expensive, it should not have this issue. There is hard data out there that shows the signal drop off based on grip:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2
 
Tried a case, helps a little but i still get dropped calls and data halts. Tried holding it "differently" but I still see a loss of reception and dropped calls. Honestly, Apple may be the only community where the users are blamed for product inefficiencies, not the manufacturer, it's truly ridiculous.

Then YOUR phone may be defective. That is a possibility you know? You should exchange yours and see if the problem persists.
 
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yeah 850k seems like a stretch.. 0% of the people i know have issues... if there were a poll asking whether or not you are experiencing IP4 reception issues, something tells me the number of votes would be higher than the number of IP4s sold...like dead pets voting in elections.

The only data are the Macrumors poll which showed roughly 50% of iPhone users were experiencing the problem irrespective of geographic region. With 1.7 MM phones sold, that would equate to 850k phones with problems.

Some criticized the poll by speculating that non-owners may have responded negatively. Others speculated that non-owning Apple fanboys may have voted favorably to keep the percentage that low. Whatever your stance, these are the only numbers available, and they support the existence of 850k people with an iPhone 4 problem.

As for everyone in a poster's circle of friends having no issues, the flaw does not drop calls in very strong signal areas. So if you are in a strong signal area, then you and all your friends in the area would all experience few dropped calls. The flaw would still exist.
 
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There may well be an error in how the bars are displayed, and this may will fix that. But the real issue is dropped calls/loss of 3G data speed. It is disingenuous to imply that this fix will help with that as it clearly won't.
 
Works every time :D
 

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God your dumber than you look!

You can't change the numbers on a speedometer, and have you ever wondered how a car knows it's speed and distance travelled?

In a cellular phone, the signal received is read, giving you an indication of it's strength. Now most non smart phones, don't even tell you what protocol you've attached to, ie edge, 3g etc.
An iPhone uses that info, to determine what protocol it chooses. If it is reporting incorrectly, whilst you may have a good signal, the reading indicates it's poor, prompting the iOS to look for another protocol, if it cannot find one, it'll drop the connection and 'no signal' appears. It won't find another, as the algorithm has the same issue on all protocols.
The software drops the connection to save battery life, as it is well known that to keep on searching for signal uses high battery consumption.

Sorry - I can't change the #s on a speedometer? Sure I can. I have an electronic speedometer and I use a formula based on how fast the wheels are spinning. I can tweak that however I want. That's what Apple is doing. they are changing the reporting of the signal.

As for the rest of your hypothesis - I'm not going to even comment. As I've worked for a major phone manufacturer in the past, you clearly know little other than throwing around words like "protocols."
 
If this PR mumbo jumbo is true, how does it explain people who are able to drop signal COMPLETELY next to a microcell or real cell tower (BB)?

Answer: It doesn't.

This isn't a fix.

Like so many before me have said, if you're having issues, return the phone.

There is little doubt in my mind now that the outer antenna design is inherently flawed.
 
What if I love the phone but would like the problem fixed? Should I return it or sit on my hands to make you happy? Please, this is all about your forum experience. You matter the most.

Yes.. return it, go back to a 3gs until this blows over, then buy a IP4 with revised software.
 
Nope.

EDIT: looked it up - now I can't see how it relates - a system that does more and better work without sacrificing anything relates to a design flaw that prevents holding a phone normally and continuing to have it function as well as the previous version of that phone how?

Uh EVERYONE bitched about iDrive when it came out because it was a complete departure from touch screen navigation systems. BMW didn't get rid of it. It was something different, but people figured out wow it really isn't the end of the world, it's not bad at all... and those who still reject it have a plethora of other cars to choose from.
 
Then YOUR phone may be defective. That is a possibility you know? You should exchange yours and see if the problem persists.

Wish I could my man, but Apple has denied my exchange requests.

This is the problem! There are ALOT of us seeing this issue, why the hell can you not see that, is it that hard to comprehend? WTF do you think we are all complaining about?
 
Now most non smart phones, don't even tell you what protocol you've attached to, ie edge, 3g etc.

I don't know about the Boost Mobile drug dealer "burners" you've been using, but every non-smart phone I have had since the inception of EDGE, & even GPRS, have showed me an "E" or "G" while using it.
 
Uh EVERYONE bitched about iDrive when it came out because it was a complete departure from touch screen navigation systems. BMW didn't get rid of it. It was something different, but people figured out wow it really isn't the end of the world, it's not bad at all... and those who still reject it have a plethora of other cars to choose from.


Idrive didn't have any flaw in design. The original wasn't as easy to navigate but there was no hardware flaw. It works fine. How can you compare this to idrive?
 
Big giant lines to buy the phone on tv but no lines for returns hhhhhmmm must be a good phone

And what you don't or ever will see are all the people NOT buying the phone because of the issue because they've decided to buy something else.

What would be interesting to see is what sales are like this week for other phones and if there's been a "bump" from people deciding against the iPhone. IE - when one movie is sold out - people funnel to another...
 
I still dont understand how an incorrect algorithm will fix the whole "death grip" issue.

Can anyone explain?
 
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