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Apple on iPhone 4 Reception: Signal Strength Display Issue Only, Software Update Coming
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isnt their pr great?
Actually what is really funny about what Steve boy says
"To fix this, we are adopting AT&Ts recently recommended formula for calculating"
unreal,, so apple is saying they don't know how to calculate signal stength?
hmm if they cant do that right, makes one question how the antenna design was done and tested
And i am sure it will give all the people in the UK and europe having the same problem a real fuzzy warm feeling that at&t is here to rescue them lol
Still don't understand what that has to do with this situation - your analogy would fit if they had moved all the controls from where the driver could reach them to where only a backseat passenger could or something. The iPhone situation is about a design flaw that prevents the normal holding of a cell phone in the left hand.
I love all the people on here who are comparing this issue to either:
1. The subprime mortgage collapse
2. The BP oil spill in the gulf
3. Enron
4. And yes, I actually saw someone compare it to 9/11.
What is so hard about bringing the phone back if it doesn't suit your needs for a full refund?
Personally, my iP4 has been working great, and I've had better signal strength than I ever had on my 3GS. But if that wasn't the case, I'd simply return it and stop stressing out about it.
1. The subprime mortgage collapse
2. The BP oil spill in the gulf
3. Enron
4. And yes, I actually saw someone compare it to 9/11.
What is so hard about bringing the phone back if it doesn't suit your needs for a full refund?
Personally, my iP4 has been working great, and I've had better signal strength than I ever had on my 3GS. But if that wasn't the case, I'd simply return it and stop stressing out about it.
Yeah, makes no sense that the phone connected to a microcell STILL DIES when held normally.
Were not talking about a system that was designed differently that people did not like. Were talking about a PHONE that when held NORMALLY when in use, pretty much dies. This isn't some stunt to make Apple look bad, this isn't based on location or anything like that. There is a serious flaw in the phone and it needs to be addressed.
Can anyone explain to me why - when holding the phone in your RIGHT HAND where the antenna is for cellular service, there is NO degradation of service. Yet, when you hold the phone in your LEFT HAND, cellular service on the phone goes to NON EXISTENT?
Anyone? So the solutions to this problem are..
1 - Use a case
2 - Don't hold it in your left hand
3 - Return it
Those are real solutions? Really? Some of you in here are very interesting with your responses. Lol.
Yeah Right
I bought a iphone yesterday and had an issue with the battery and a buzzing noise when making a call, However i did not have the reception issue. I just exchanged it for another and guess what? Reception Issues galore. This is not a misrepresentation of the signal because it does in fact drop the call when being held the wrong way. I know, I probably should just hold my phone differently!! Hmmmmmm!!
I bought a iphone yesterday and had an issue with the battery and a buzzing noise when making a call, However i did not have the reception issue. I just exchanged it for another and guess what? Reception Issues galore. This is not a misrepresentation of the signal because it does in fact drop the call when being held the wrong way. I know, I probably should just hold my phone differently!! Hmmmmmm!!
Because many people on these boards don't realize that in order to have a real debate, you need to use logic.
I can imagine this scenario:
A (in Detroit): Man, I hate the rain... I wish it would clear up.
B (in San Francisco): Yeah, it's, like, flooding here.
Q (in Houston): WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ITS NOT RAINING ANYWHERE U IDIOT MORANS
Investigation is required!
I hope that Jobs will have to explain it to a committee.
I hope that Jobs will have to explain it to a committee.
You know, I can't help but think that if the designers had just made that insulating gap an inch wide instead of 1/50 inch wide, the phone would have been much less susceptible to touch, the antenna performance wouldn't have been dramatically less, and all (except a few die-hard haters) would be happy. As an engineer, I have strong doubts that any non-hardware fix is possible. (The signal-strength measurement problem Apple identified may well be a real problem, but it is not the whole story by a long shot.)
But look at it from Apple's point of view. What are their options?
1) Acknowledge there is a problem and replace all of the phones, suffering a huge loss.
2) Acknowledge there is a problem but say "too bad," opening themselves up to even more of a customer problem than they have now as well as providing evidence for lawsuits against them.
3) Treat the problem as a normal design limitation but offer a full refund to anyone not happy with the phone, so nobody can claim irreparable harm. Accept that sales will ultimately be less than they could have been, but knowing that enough people will be satisfied with the phone to make it a successful product. (And fix the problem in the IP5.)
It's hard for me to see how anyone with a fiduciary responsibility to Apple could support anything other than the third course.
But look at it from Apple's point of view. What are their options?
1) Acknowledge there is a problem and replace all of the phones, suffering a huge loss.
2) Acknowledge there is a problem but say "too bad," opening themselves up to even more of a customer problem than they have now as well as providing evidence for lawsuits against them.
3) Treat the problem as a normal design limitation but offer a full refund to anyone not happy with the phone, so nobody can claim irreparable harm. Accept that sales will ultimately be less than they could have been, but knowing that enough people will be satisfied with the phone to make it a successful product. (And fix the problem in the IP5.)
It's hard for me to see how anyone with a fiduciary responsibility to Apple could support anything other than the third course.
I am just glad that I am one of the many thousands of people just lucky enough to get such an awesome device and not experiencing any problems. This thing is slick as it can be. The screen is astounding, the OS is smooth and silk, and my phone reception is better than I have had on ANY cell phone. The camera is an amazing upgrade to the 3Gs, it is almost equal to my Canon SD 790. It is so tightly engineered and dense it feels great in your hand.
Good job Apple.
Good job Apple.
I know it takes an IQ over 150 to understand this, but these people may love the phone but hate the defect that they fully expect to be fixed at some point. What they want is for an acknowledgment, at least.If you really hate it that bad, return it.
No takers?
That's what we thought. ****!
Didn't you realize that this is actually a new feature to help prevent errant drunk texting when you suddenly realize the mistake you made moments after sending the text?
re: Cricket
I did just this, actually! So far? Far fewer dropped calls than with AT&T! Seriously! I was honestly expecting Cricket to suck, based on all the bad-mouthing I heard about them. But at least in my city, they work just fine.... and no contract to get locked in to at all.
I also like the way their local stores work, because unlike the corporate giant cellular carriers, Cricket apparently just lets independent people purchase a store and put their name on it. The store by my work, for example, is run by a couple of Asian guys who seem to sell practically every phone accessory for a flat $10 per item. I bought a case for my Samsung phone for $10 off them, and found out later, it costs a little more than that everywhere I looked on the net. So a surprisingly good deal.....
I did just this, actually! So far? Far fewer dropped calls than with AT&T! Seriously! I was honestly expecting Cricket to suck, based on all the bad-mouthing I heard about them. But at least in my city, they work just fine.... and no contract to get locked in to at all.
I also like the way their local stores work, because unlike the corporate giant cellular carriers, Cricket apparently just lets independent people purchase a store and put their name on it. The store by my work, for example, is run by a couple of Asian guys who seem to sell practically every phone accessory for a flat $10 per item. I bought a case for my Samsung phone for $10 off them, and found out later, it costs a little more than that everywhere I looked on the net. So a surprisingly good deal.....
I just hope they can fix it. Without recommending a case or having to hold the IP4 differently.
Ok people.
For one second - forget about the antenna issue. forget about the fix. forget about everything and focus on this one thing. Is NO ONE pissed off (at the very least) that Apple has been misrepresenting the signal strength on their phones?
Forget about whether that has ANY baring on actual function or design on the phone or how you've experienced the device.
Apple - the "leader" and creator of "the best smartphone on the planet" has, for a few years now, not been using the right equation. Furthermore - how has this not come up before internally?
Tell you why - because as long as people weren't complaining about their signals (or blaming ATT) and there weren't lawsuits filed - Apple didn't have to change a thing. The second the HEAT was turned on them - suddenly it was "whoops - wait a second. Looky here. I see what the problem was. It's this darn formula. Silly us - we had it wrong."
Those that believe - HONESTLY believe that Apple has NO idea that they were using a bad formula are naive. Period.
For one second - forget about the antenna issue. forget about the fix. forget about everything and focus on this one thing. Is NO ONE pissed off (at the very least) that Apple has been misrepresenting the signal strength on their phones?
Forget about whether that has ANY baring on actual function or design on the phone or how you've experienced the device.
Apple - the "leader" and creator of "the best smartphone on the planet" has, for a few years now, not been using the right equation. Furthermore - how has this not come up before internally?
Tell you why - because as long as people weren't complaining about their signals (or blaming ATT) and there weren't lawsuits filed - Apple didn't have to change a thing. The second the HEAT was turned on them - suddenly it was "whoops - wait a second. Looky here. I see what the problem was. It's this darn formula. Silly us - we had it wrong."
Those that believe - HONESTLY believe that Apple has NO idea that they were using a bad formula are naive. Period.
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You forgot "d": reseat the sim so the metal doesn't touch the edge. Many people have seen the issue go away entirely by doing this.
AbSoluTc said:
You forgot "d": reseat the sim so the metal doesn't touch the edge. Many people have seen the issue go away entirely by doing this.
