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PowerMac G3, G4, G5. The original iMac G3 and G4 to name a few.

I own a 12" and a 17" PowerBook G4. Except for when these are dropped or otherwise given an excessive amount of force I don't see them as being 'bendy'. At least my two have never 'bent' during normal use. I've had a G5 that had it's handles bent, but that was during shipping.
Agreed. I had two 15" Powerbook G4s back in the day, and I thought the build quality was pretty robust. Not even close to bendy.
 
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PowerMac G3, G4, G5. The original iMac G3 and G4 to name a few.

I own a 12" and a 17" PowerBook G4. Except for when these are dropped or otherwise given an excessive amount of force I don't see them as being 'bendy'. At least my two have never 'bent' during normal use. I've had a G5 that had it's handles bent, but that was during shipping.
I'm not able to comment on the older Mac desktops, so you may have a point there.

As for the PowerBooks: I've got a 15", 17" and a 15" 2006 MBP. I do agree that they're very beautiful (and by god, is the keyboard amazing), but they're pretty much thin sheet metal on a titanium frame. I have yet to see one where the gray bezels are completely flush, is all.
 
I'm not able to comment on the older Mac desktops, so you may have a point there.

As for the PowerBooks: I've got a 15", 17" and a 15" 2006 MBP. I do agree that they're very beautiful (and by god, is the keyboard amazing), but they're pretty much thin sheet metal on a titanium frame. I have yet to see one where the gray bezels are completely flush, is all.

Nothing bends like Titanium G4.
 
I'm not able to comment on the older Mac desktops, so you may have a point there.

As for the PowerBooks: I've got a 15", 17" and a 15" 2006 MBP. I do agree that they're very beautiful (and by god, is the keyboard amazing), but they're pretty much thin sheet metal on a titanium frame.
Just to be clear, Apple made the Titanium Powerbook from 2001 to 2003. That PB has the dark chocolate keyboard and is one of the exceptions. It had major problems with hinges, cracking and paint peeling. The Aluminum PowerBooks, which look pretty much the same as your 2006 MBP have the silver backlit (except for the 12") keyboard.

I have yet to see one where the gray bezels are completely flush, is all.
That is a fair point, but also by design. Apple didn't start making the bezels entirely flush until the unibodys. Up to that point, the bezel is simply a facia surround around the LCD. So it wouldn't sit flush.

I have a 2006 17" MBP as well and there are slight differences between it and my 17" PowerBook.
 
Nothing bends like Titanium G4.
LOL. I had an old TiBook 400 for years. Never bent, but the case did crack. Unlike most who had issues with hinges, I never had a problem with that. But after two logicboard replacements I eventually just sent the bits off to another MR member here. It just kept crumbling to pieces around the display and hinges. SMH.
 
Just to be clear, Apple made the Titanium Powerbook from 2001 to 2003. That PB has the dark chocolate keyboard and is one of the exceptions. It had major problems with hinges, cracking and paint peeling. The Aluminum PowerBooks, which look pretty much the same as your 2006 MBP have the silver backlit (except for the 12") keyboard.


That is a fair point, but also by design. Apple didn't start making the bezels entirely flush until the unibodys. Up to that point, the bezel is simply a facia surround around the LCD. So it wouldn't sit flush.

I have a 2006 17" MBP as well and there are slight differences between it and my 17" PowerBook.
Actually, the '03-'07 models are built around a metal framework, and I was under the impression that it was made of titanium. Unfortunately, I can't seem to back that up :)

 
LOL. I had an old TiBook 400 for years. Never bent, but the case did crack. Unlike most who had issues with hinges, I never had a problem with that. But after two logicboard replacements I eventually just sent the bits off to another MR member here. It just kept crumbling to pieces around the display and hinges. SMH.

Guess we all have different experiences. I’ve seen a good bunch of tibooks have the upper display edges stick out like old book pages. Apart from that flaky paint and broken hinges, of course. I always thought that in terms of robustness a Pismo or Lombard runs circles around the Ti.
 
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Guess we all have different experiences. I’ve seen a good bunch of tibooks have the upper display edges stick out like old book pages. Apart from that flaky paint and broken hinges, of course. I always thought that in terms of robustness a Pismo or Lombard runs circles around the Ti.
Yeah, again the TiBooks are an exception here. My experience with them was not great either. The 1Ghz DVI was okay but that was the last model Apple made before they introduced the Aluminum PowerBooks.
 
I loved my G3 iMac, but I was not fond of periodically seeing the spinning beachball of death when something caused it to freeze. I don’t recall seeing much of the beachball with my G4 eMac. I’ve never seen it on my current 2011 iMac. I’ve had SketchUp crash on my current iMac, but I suspect thats a problem with SketchUp rather than the OS.

On my G3 I had an application that kept crashing upon launch. I learned about .plist files and trashing them then no more crashing after that. My iPhone 4 felt laggy, but I realuzed it was the screen cover of the Lifeproof case that was interfering with the sensitivity of the touchscreen. Remove the case and the phone was fine. The door on the disc drive of my eMac would stick, but my fingernail could usually free it.

My current iPad Pro 10.5 has an oddity. It is in a Targus case that is supposed to put the iPad to sleep when I close the cover, but it doesn’t. The same type case did put my previous iPad Air and iPad Mini to sleep when closed. And it apparently works as intended on every other iPad I’ve seen, but not on mine. I don’t know if it’s an oddity of my iPad or the iPad Pro 10.5 in general. But I’ve learned to just put my iPad to sleep with the power button before closing the case.

There have been occasional odd little things with some of my Apple products over the years, but overall it has been a very satisfying experience from one device to the next. I have never regretted buying any of them.

My next purchase within the next year or so will most likely be a new 24in. iMac to replace my current 2011 21.5.
 
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Apple it was and still is and will be the cream a la cream
The bespoke of things
To be the best in the next 10 years they need to get the AR glasses right and the suppose EV right, and Apple is set for another 1-2 decades
Like Steve said, Apple is a company to last for centuries
 
My next purchase within the next year or so will most likely be a new 24in. iMac to replace my current 2011 21.5.
i would suggest you, since you think about next year already, to wait for the 24" M2 imac ...especially if you can take advantage of the gpu...cpu will see around 10% increase but the gpu around 40-50%
 
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i would suggest you, since you think about next year already, to wait for the 24" M2 imac ...especially if you can take advantage of the gpu...cpu will see around 10% increase but the gpu around 40-50%
That is exactly what I’m waiting for. And to see if they make any tweaks to the iMac at that time. I’m also waiting to see what the new 27in. iMac will be like, but I suspect it might cost a bit more (for my liking) than an optioned out 24. At this point I’ll probably order the green colour.
 
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That is exactly what I’m waiting for. And to see if they make any tweaks to the iMac at that time. I’m also waiting to see what the new 27in. iMac will be like, but I suspect it might cost a bit more (for my liking) than an optioned out 24. At this point I’ll probably order the green colour.
I agree , the green i also like the most. The 27" probably will start from around $1999 or so
I expect the 27" with 32 gpu core M1 max to be around $3000
 
I'm not here to make jokes. You sound like a shareholder.

And I am not alone in my discontentment. Whenever I look up support on the Apple discussion forms for fixes or "work-arounds", THOUSANDS of people are posting with the same issues.

In every forum about every product there are THOUSANDS of people posting with same issues. Because people all over the world come to forums, usually because they have issues.

Remember, Apple makes hundreds of millions of devices. Thousands are, like, 0.1% of devices made.
 
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In every forum about every product there are THOUSANDS of people posting with same issues. Because people all over the world come to forums, usually because they have issues.

Remember, Apple makes hundreds of millions of devices. Thousands are, like, 0.1% of devices made.

That doesn't make it acceptable.
 
As if the first few iPhones under the leadership of Steve Jobs didn’t have problems…

In the end, the slippery slope on which Apple is sliding has gone unaddressed. And if what you say is true, it has gone on too long. This leads me to feel that Apple just doesn't care.
 
My 10XR is still working great. If you don't want to deal with bugs wait for the .5 or .6 version before you update. By that time most of the bugs have been quashed. QC is based on random sampling so it will not catch all the faulty components. The nature of the beast, they cannot afford to do full QC on each and every component that goes into Apple products.
 
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And yet, I find the build quality to be a positive. I like the feeling a heavier phone in my hand. I've looked at other phones (Samsung) and the quality of the materials pales in comparison to the iPhone materials. And yes, these issues wouldn't be so difficult to swallow if the price of the phone wasn't so astronomical.
I switch back n forth between iphone & android (IP12, OP7T, Pixel 5) and have to say while I don't mind apple hardware I detest iOS, it's become such a kludgy mess of ill-conceived layers, desperately trying to keep up with (and failing) the primary features of the far more coherent Android (at least the purer flavors i.e. Pixel, Oneplus). I'm not anti-Apple...bought a Macbook Air M1 recently and love it, and ipad is still the only viable tablet option (while my entire world is PC).

BUT, the Apple Rag is the biggest disappointment of all!!! A $40 rag that is very overrated, still leaves smudges, doesn't self-clean...WTF. The Free Rag I got with my last $6 screen protector is much nicer ;) ;) ;)

But I guess I should be posting the Rag gripes in the Apple Rag forum, will go do that now.

HNY all :)
 
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My 10XR is still working great. If you don't want to deal with bugs wait for the .5 or .6 version before you update. By that time most of the bugs have been quashed. QC is based on random sampling so it will not catch all the faulty components. The nature of the beast, they cannot afford to do full QC on each and every component that goes into Apple products.

You're missing my point. It isn't a component-level problem. It is a software problem.
 
Too many people are either new or just don't remember all of the foibles that Apple has always had. It's like thinking about that ex-GF you broke up with and fondly thinking of the good times. And then trying to remember why it didn't work.
 
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I switch back n forth between iphone & android (IP12, OP7T, Pixel 5) and have to say while I don't mind apple hardware I detest iOS, it's become such a kludgy mess of ill-conceived layers, desperately trying to keep up with (and failing) the primary features of the far more coherent Android (at least the purer flavors i.e. Pixel, Oneplus). I'm not anti-Apple...bought a Macbook Air M1 recently and love it, and ipad is still the only viable tablet option (while my entire world is PC).

BUT, the Apple Rag is the biggest disappointment of all!!! A $40 rag that is very overrated, still leaves smudges, doesn't self-clean...WTF. The Free Rag I got with my last $6 screen protector is much nicer ;) ;) ;)

But I guess I should be posting the Rag gripes in the Apple Rag forum, will go do that now.

HNY all :)
Yeah about the rag. Apple has been accustomed to charging whatever for a product and people just laying it.

I can imagine the marketing meeting regarding the cleaning cloth.

‘Do you think our customers would buy a swatch of cloth for $40?’

‘Nah, not even people who buy all our products are that gullible ‘

‘I dunno. Let’s give it a whirl.’
 
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I think a lot of people have no concept of what it takes to create and maintain this type of technology with all its complexity. I have also found that a lot of issues are caused by the applications we run vs. the actual Apple stuff
 
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