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Maybe it is curtain call...

gco212 said:
Personally, I'd tend to believe that this event will have the last PPC updates for all systems. I doubt there will be any more updates after this conference, and that would of course go with the idea of one more thing. It would be the last and finishing remark of an era, similar to what one more thing means in our usage of the prase.

I think you may be on to something. Give the last of the line a big send off/final bow before the curtain falls. It has been a good run.

Roger
 
whaley said:
I think you may be on to something. Give the last of the line a big send off/final bow before the curtain falls. It has been a good run.

Roger

Except for one little detail: it wouldn't need that much publicity. Yes, the switch to Intel is big, but it's already been announced. And even that huge event was kinda burried/hidden inside a developper's conference.

This is something for the public at large, which means it's not a "last PPC Macs" or similar event. Heck, most people think all computers have "Intel inside", they don't even know there's different types of processors (x86/PPC is unknown to them, as is RISC/CISC, etc). All they know is that Windows can get viruses and that Mac OS is pretty.

I'm pretty sure the "one more thing" has something to do with video (the iDVD curtains in the image), so it's either a set-top box (a-la-Tivo, which only the USA has anyway, I think) and/or a movie download service (Universal said they'd have such a service before the end of the year) and/or a video iPod (with TV out, to be used as a playback device and not only a portable video device).
 
whaley said:
I think you may be on to something. Give the last of the line a big send off/final bow before the curtain falls. It has been a good run.

Roger

Apple wants to focus on Intel, full steam ahead. Intel is the "future", PPC is the "past", even if we see a couple more offerings with the architecture. I don't see why Apple would want to make a huge deal and focus so much on updates involving "old technology". Seems to me they should be wanting to save all the limelight, big announcements, etc. for Intel. After all, if this event was being held only to announce PPC updates, (whether they are significant updates or not), what would the press think? "Um, Apple is making a big deal about PPC updates? But, um, aren't you guys moving to Intel and isn't that what you've been touting the past few months? I'm confused..."

Not saying we won't see PPC updates, but I doubt that's going to be the sole reason and focus of this event. :cool:
 
~Shard~ said:
Not saying we won't see PPC updates, but I doubt that's going to be the sole reason and focus of this event. :cool:

And since the "one more thing" usually is part of a bigger event, maybe there's only gonna be "one thing".

This one more thing may use something from intel, but the switch was already announced. The intel thing (if any) won't be anything but a simple note/comment/detail, not the main event.

If there's any PPC updates, it'll simply happen on Apple's website, then being talked about on Apple news/rumors websites ("oh look, 80 more MHz and bigger hard drives").
 
Yvan256 said:
And since the "one more thing" usually is part of a bigger event, maybe there's only gonna be "one thing".

This one more thing may use something from intel, but the switch was already announced. The intel thing (if any) won't be anything but a simple note/comment/detail, not the main event.

If there's any PPC updates, it'll simply happen on Apple's website, then being talked about on Apple news/rumors websites ("oh look, 80 more MHz and bigger hard drives").

Yeah, this is what I'm leaning towards as well. Like I said, I just can't see Jobs getting up in front of the crowd and proudly declaring, "Behold, a 3GHz PPC PowerMac!" Intel should receive that type of attention, not PPC, and this would just confuse people on Apple's focus and direction.
 
~Shard~ said:
Yeah, this is what I'm leaning towards as well. Like I said, I just can't see Jobs getting up in front of the crowd and proudly declaring, "Behold, a 3GHz PPC PowerMac!" Intel should receive that type of attention, not PPC, and this would just confuse people on Apple's focus and direction.

Not to keep quoting what gets quoted all the time but Steve did say that there are some great PPC products coming out soon. Or words to that effect.

It's getting near Christmas, a new product for the Christmas seasons would renew faith in Apple that they will support their PPC products fully - and so people might feel more at ease to part with cash.

G5 PowerBook, or PowerMacs running on Dual Core's. I had an idea that *maybe* Apple would drop 'two CPUs' and use a single Dual Core PPC processor (saving them money no doubt) to reap simular performance benifits.

Honestly though.... its going to be a Special Edition iPod of some sort. ;)
 
RobHague said:
Not to keep quoting what gets quoted all the time but Steve did say that there are some great PPC products coming out soon. Or words to that effect.

Absolutely, I never said we wouldn't see anymore great PPC products. I'm just saying Jobs won't hold an event for the specific purpose of releasing new PPC products and nothing else, that's all.

RobHague said:
It's getting near Christmas, a new product for the Christmas seasons would renew faith in Apple that they will support their PPC products fully - and so people might feel more at ease to part with cash.

Yep - and this is exactly what's going to happen in my opinion.

RobHague said:
G5 PowerBook, or PowerMacs running on Dual Core's. I had an idea that *maybe* Apple would drop 'two CPUs' and use a single Dual Core PPC processor (saving them money no doubt) to reap simular performance benifits.

I see 970MP PowerMacs and 7448 PowerBooks. I still say there will never be a G5 PowerBook. :cool:
 
Arnel said:
I'd say that's very unlikely. Apple has to work with developers to make sure everyone is ready for the transition. The developers have to make Universal Binary versions of their apps, package them up for download and make them available at launch, so they need to know ahead of time what the timetable is (and Apple has so far stated that it will happen in 2006, by WWDC)...

"These are the new Mactels, and Mac OSX/Rosetta is sooo good it'll run all your PPC programs already....oh and one more thing......"Ta-Da!!!!"
 
I thought Apple usually announced stuff on Tuesdays??

October 12, 2005 is a Wednesdays...
However, October 12, 2004 is a Tuesday.

I'm still VERY skeptical about this whole thing. I'm not putting my hopes up high.
 
iEric said:
I thought Apple usually announced stuff on Tuesdays??

October 12, 2005 is a Wednesdays...
However, October 12, 2004 is a Tuesday.

I'm still VERY skeptical about this whole thing. I'm not putting my hopes up high.

You're thinking that there aren't going to be any product releases at a Special Event titled "One More Thing...."???

Apple haven't done a big tuesday release in ages.
 
iEric said:
I thought Apple usually announced stuff on Tuesdays??

October 12, 2005 is a Wednesdays...
However, October 12, 2004 is a Tuesday.

I'm still VERY skeptical about this whole thing. I'm not putting my hopes up high.

Haven't you heard, Wednesday is the new Tuesday! :p Actually, more Apple events have occurred on a Wednesday this year than Tuesday I believe - sure seems like it at least...
 
I still reckon we'll see fairly healthy PB and PM updates tomorrow, along with 10.4.3 to support them, driver-wise. Then "One More Thing" on Wednesday will introduce the thin end of Apple's Video wedge. Some new hardware, of particular interest to the pod-crew (not necessarily a vPod but they got the invites, after all) along with the next iTunes update to increase support for video downloads.
 
Just speaking hyperthetically - If i bought a superduper new IntelBased mac from Apple, to replace my 'slow' technically inferior PPC based one ;) what would happen if i tried to play my copy of WoW or Doom3 on it? Does rosetta support 'emulation' for games too? Whats the performance hit? Will there be 're-writes' of the games like this out there? Wont that be confusing? Will they rewrite the game and get a 'universal binary' version out to replace the existing PPC title? What about older titles? :confused: Will the companys want to bother recoding their game or is it as simple as Apple say with other software.

With games upcoming (like Fable? Quake4?) are they making PPC/x86 versions at the same time to prep for the arrival of these intel machines.
 
~Shard~ said:
Haven't you heard, Wednesday is the new Tuesday! :p Actually, more Apple events have occurred on a Wednesday this year than Tuesday I believe - sure seems like it at least...

I still stand by the reasoning that there are and will be no updates this Tuesday due to the US federal holiday, Columbus Day. Apple has moved events/updates to Wednesdays in the past due to federal holidays on Mondays, most recently Labor Day and Independence Day updates. I see absolutely no reason why this event's date is any different.
 
RobHague said:
Just speaking hyperthetically - If i bought a superduper new IntelBased mac from Apple, to replace my 'slow' technically inferior PPC based one ;) what would happen if i tried to play my copy of WoW or Doom3 on it? Does rosetta support 'emulation' for games too? Whats the performance hit? Will there be 're-writes' of the games like this out there? Wont that be confusing? Will they rewrite the game and get a 'universal binary' version out to replace the existing PPC title? What about older titles? :confused: Will the companys want to bother recoding their game or is it as simple as Apple say with other software.

I'm not too sure about universal binaries for games, I'm guessing games that already exist will probably not recompile because it simply won't be worth the investment in time for them.

Frankly, if you like playing games, I would just create a dual boot machine with XP :eek: . Wouldn't kill you if all you used it for was gaming.
 
Ok.. I can't believe I am being sucked into this sillyness, but here goes. Please understand that I think we have probably already nailed what is really going to be announced Wednesday, since every reasonable base has been covered. Nonetheless, inspired by the velvet curtains I want to add the following crazy and unrealistic fantasies:

Some kind of camcorder with an ipod dock. The video goes straight to the ipod HD. It works as an audio recorder and digital camera too of course, hell, let's say it also works as a portable digital VCR.

Alternatively, an ipod with a camera built in.

A mac mini with a built in projector.

A highly portable projector or display that connects to a video ipod (or computer). Is there such a thing as a high definition projector?

Some kind of weird-ass head-set or goggles to let allow you to actually see something when you play a movie from your ipod.

Some kind of laptop-like device but smaller and simpler - maybe with a 6 or 8 inch display. Billed as a high end multimedia ipod and hand-held.

Apple home media center with massive HD display, ipod dock and computer built in. Includes surround speakers, bluetooth remote, keyboard and pointing device.

Maybe Apple is getting into the ISP and/or cable or satellite TV business. Perhaps a pay-per-view movie service or Itunes store for sattelite TV, with new software for using the mac as a tivo type system, all seamlessly integrated of course.

The merger of PIXAR and Apple to yield a major studio, media producer and record label, maybe with the help of the other (Beatles) Apple.

er... oh, oh..... I know..... its a waterproof floating G5 powerbook you can use in the bath, in fact, to deal with the cooling issues, you can ONLY use it in the bath. The great part is that it keeps the water nice and warm.
 
Whyren said:
I still stand by the reasoning that there are and will be no updates this Tuesday due to the US federal holiday, Columbus Day. Apple has moved events/updates to Wednesdays in the past due to federal holidays on Mondays, most recently Labor Day and Independence Day updates. I see absolutely no reason why this event's date is any different.

I don't think anyone is arguing with you. The event is scheduled for a Wednesday, Apple has been holding more events on Wednesdays this past little while - it's pretty cut and dried, really. Having a holiday on the Tuesday is essentially irrelevant in my mind and has nothing to do with the timing around this event. Regardless, it's a moot point. :cool:
 
even tho think secret have said about 2 ipods, im sure its gonna be like itwas last time, like:
iPod Photo last year > iPod Video this year
U2 iPod last year > Maddona iPod Nano this year
 
Whyren said:
Sorry if I came off a bit...surly, perhaps? I've just heard far too many people (not just on these forums) lately saying that there's some sort of "conspiracy" or something because this event is on a Wednesday. :eek:

Ah, understood. No worries. :)
 
LGRW3919 said:
#600:
this is a power-user upgrade event i believe
I'm glad I just pumped up my Power Mac. Got a new X800 XT, up'd my memory to 4GB SDRAM and my storage to 480GB. All this plus my 23-inch Cinema HD was intended to keep me happy until the Intel Mac's show up. I can't afford a Power User Upgrade right now :eek:
 
It has to be something iPod related otherwise iLounge wouldnt've been invited so I'm still going on video iPods

Tablet mac sounds sweet too

Pocket mac maybe? Bring back the Newton?
 
I think I may have figured this big announcment out. So MacBytes has an article that Apple is charging a 10% licensing fee to make iPod accessories. Sure they want the money for it but what they also want is to own the market. This event is a perfect time for them to release their own line of accessories. By charging 10% to other companies they will drive their prices up and Apple's accessories will now be the most affordable!

Think about this -- now Apple isn't overshadowing the iPod Nano but just adding to it. Following this logic I don't think we will see a vpod as this would be a lot of announcments all at once, but who knows!
 
Macosrumors...

... now predicting 2Ghz eMac. I suppose that cooling isn't an issue but making your education line quicker than you pro notebooks, that just seems silly. Still always nice to have a laugh in the morning!
 
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