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Oops.. you said setting. Yeah that should work accounts that are registered to different regions will be a problem, but just having your locale settings different won't.
not talking about iphone country setting but rather the Appleid itself. Cause one account might be using the US store, the other the U.K. store
 
There you've done it, Apple You've created a scheme where nothing is perfect and nobody is happy. You've created a package plan that is designed to benefit yourself which by default means it does not benefit your customers.

I'm sure Apple has the data to know how customers use their services and what kind of bundles would make sense to save customers some money. But saving customers money means Apple making less. NEVER!

It is a sure bet that nobody uses all these services forcing customers to pay for something they don't want. In my case, the main service I use is News+. I have a 200GB iCloud plan. And I use Apple TV+. Will never game and won't use the fitness app. I use TIDAL to get my music in hi-res. TIDAL has a generous family plan. So I will continue to pay $17.97 a month for the three things I use vs. having to pay $29.99. Epic Fail.

On another note. For those of you needing more iCloud. $9.99 for 2TB is a rip off. A 2TB drive costs $65 and you own it for life. Why pay someone $120 a year, every year to rent that much space? Learn to use a NAS. You can get a 2 bay Synology NAS with 4TB of storage in RAID 5 for backup for $600. In five years of iCloud savings the NAS is paid for and you have double the space. Back up your phones and iPads to your hard drive. Store your photos on the NAS. You have access to your files from anywhere. A NAS is the way to go. Save yourself from the hefty Apple tax.
 
not talking about iphone country setting but rather the Appleid itself. Cause one account might be using the US store, the other the U.K. store

right, so that *will* be an issue. You're not supposed to share accounts with family members at a different address much less a country. Even if that family member happens to be you yourself. If nothing else, the media-rights deals Apple need to cut would just never allow international licensing.

speaking as an immigrant, its a PITA.
 
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. So I will continue to pay $17.97 a month for the three things I use vs. having to pay $29.99. Epic Fail.

how do you work that out as a "fail". You've got a choice, and the choice that works best for you happens to be the cheapest. Would you prefer they took away your choice?

FWIW, I'm signing up to the max plan cos for another 2bux per month than I'm currently paying I get 2TB and a couple of free services I might use on occasion.
 
Would it have really been that difficult to just let people sign up for whatever Apple services they want and offer a 20% monthly discount when you subscribe to 2 Apple services and a 30% monthly discount when subscribing to 3+ Apple services? Why complicate things with these ridiculous bundles Apple?
That’s how they make a profit. Charging more for extra services you may or may not use. If people had a chance to choose their most used services it wouldn’t make sense in terms of profits since you’re most likely already paying for them individually.
 
On another note. For those of you needing more iCloud. $9.99 for 2TB is a rip off. A 2TB drive costs $65 and you own it for life. Why pay someone $120 a year, every year to rent that much space? Learn to use a NAS. You can get a 2 bay Synology NAS with 4TB of storage in RAID 5 for backup for $600. In five years of iCloud savings the NAS is paid for and you have double the space. Back up your phones and iPads to your hard drive. Store your photos on the NAS. You have access to your files from anywhere. A NAS is the way to go. Save yourself from the hefty Apple tax.


For technology capable people this does make sense. But the convience factor is worth the money for some. iCloud Photos sync for my wife is perfect. Her photos are automatically synced between her iPhone, iPad, and MacBook. No need to manually sync or connect her phone to her laptop.

The best part is there is an option. If you like it and use it, pay for it. If you don't, then don't.
 
Store device backups on an external drive, and possibly photos. Change phone settings to automatically delete messages after a year. With that alone your cloud storage needs should go down by 60%.

Tis true, then I'd have to manually back up my wife's iPad, her iPhone, my mother-in-law's iPad, her iPhone, my iPad, my iPhone all to a disk somewhere.

I don't know, the convenience factor vastly outweighs the time required imo. But yes, you're right - I used to do that back in the day (for years) with iMazing.

Have to say tho... taking a photo from any device and having it nearly instantly available on my Mac, iPad, iPhone, Watch... :) I'm spoiled. If I have to I'll baaaaa loudly. lol.
 
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There you've done it, Apple You've created a scheme where nothing is perfect and nobody is happy. You've created a package plan that is designed to benefit yourself which by default means it does not benefit your customers.

I'm sure Apple has the data to know how customers use their services and what kind of bundles would make sense to save customers some money. But saving customers money means Apple making less. NEVER!

It is a sure bet that nobody uses all these services forcing customers to pay for something they don't want. In my case, the main service I use is News+. I have a 200GB iCloud plan. And I use Apple TV+. Will never game and won't use the fitness app. I use TIDAL to get my music in hi-res. TIDAL has a generous family plan. So I will continue to pay $17.97 a month for the three things I use vs. having to pay $29.99. Epic Fail.

On another note. For those of you needing more iCloud. $9.99 for 2TB is a rip off. A 2TB drive costs $65 and you own it for life. Why pay someone $120 a year, every year to rent that much space? Learn to use a NAS. You can get a 2 bay Synology NAS with 4TB of storage in RAID 5 for backup for $600. In five years of iCloud savings the NAS is paid for and you have double the space. Back up your phones and iPads to your hard drive. Store your photos on the NAS. You have access to your files from anywhere. A NAS is the way to go. Save yourself from the hefty Apple tax.

My friend, I will agree with you that it would be nice for Apple to bump the cloud storage space. From the individual to family plan, it seems most are commenting that they should be higher or be transparent about any flexibility.

But overall, the plans are a good deal for a lot of people that already subscribe to multiple services, though skewed toward family plans at the moment. I have a family plan where I am already paying $30 for 2tb of space, Apple Music, and Apple Arcade. For the same price, I get to add Apple TV+, Apple News+, and Apple Fitness+ at no additional cost.

Bundles are good for having many services. If someone is only paying for one or two things, they may want to continue paying for those one or two things only. I do hope they offer more options or customizable options in the future, but this is a good start.
 
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There you've done it, Apple You've created a scheme where nothing is perfect and nobody is happy. You've created a package plan that is designed to benefit yourself which by default means it does not benefit your customers.

I'm sure Apple has the data to know how customers use their services and what kind of bundles would make sense to save customers some money. But saving customers money means Apple making less. NEVER!

It is a sure bet that nobody uses all these services forcing customers to pay for something they don't want. In my case, the main service I use is News+. I have a 200GB iCloud plan. And I use Apple TV+. Will never game and won't use the fitness app. I use TIDAL to get my music in hi-res. TIDAL has a generous family plan. So I will continue to pay $17.97 a month for the three things I use vs. having to pay $29.99. Epic Fail.

On another note. For those of you needing more iCloud. $9.99 for 2TB is a rip off. A 2TB drive costs $65 and you own it for life. Why pay someone $120 a year, every year to rent that much space? Learn to use a NAS. You can get a 2 bay Synology NAS with 4TB of storage in RAID 5 for backup for $600. In five years of iCloud savings the NAS is paid for and you have double the space. Back up your phones and iPads to your hard drive. Store your photos on the NAS. You have access to your files from anywhere. A NAS is the way to go. Save yourself from the hefty Apple tax.

This is ridiculous. Normal people don't investigate options that take 5 years to recoup. And you fail to account for real costs like failure rates, learning, stress, remote access, troubleshooting, and device integration.
 
That’s how they make a profit. Charging more for extra services you may or may not use. If people had a chance to choose their most used services it wouldn’t make sense in terms of profits since you’re most likely already paying for them individually.

Exactly this. In the end, I can’t blame them for finding a way to get more to sub to arcade or news+. It may not be the most consumer friendly for everyone’s specific want, but it’s going to let these services survive while putting more money in their pockets.

I currently pay $30 for Apple Music family, 2tb of cloud storage, and arcade. For the same price, I’ll be getting tv+, news+, and fitness+. I’ll take that $25 savings and let Apple pad those numbers to allow those other services to continue existing.

I imagine both news+ and arcade are not performing as well as they hoped, and it wouldn’t surprise me if this is the only reason we have this bundle to begin with. Maybe not the only reason, but it certainly helps to justify it.
 
They’re a ripoff for most users, so do the math and skip them if those numbers don’t add up.
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One thing I haven't seen mentioned: Anyone who is already paying for a mag subscription (yes, some of us do) that is a part of Apple News. I'm currently paying for Barrons which I will quit and take on a bundle. I come out ahead as well as get much more storage (now have the 200gb which I've had for years and never gotten close to filling). Priced 'per/day' the bundles don't seem too bad...I exercise every day and will definitely give the Fitness a trial. Don't understand all of the fuss about storage....once you have your systems backed up and some space for synching/sharing photos I don't get it...the prices of HD's and SSDs are so low I don't understand why anyone would want the speed constraints and 'rental' of online storage as opposed to at-home backups (and leaving encrypted copies at work or with family and friends). I've never expected Apple to supply me with Free/Cheap/Subsidized on line storage. Prefer to 'own/physically posses' critical backups. Especially photos and videos. Maybe just old-fashioned.....actually liked the old 'e-World' and 'MacMe (?).
 
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Give me a break!!!

Nobody is forcing anybody to sign up for anything. Oh boo-freaking-hoo, none of the three quite simple options fit your needs. Guess what, they fit other people’s needs (posts in pretty much every thread about the bundles). Apple is not canceling the existing a la carte options, so you can still use those and not pay more to get services you don’t want. Consider this a non-event, keep using the services you’re using and stop the freaking entitled belly-aching.

There are much bigger things going on in the world that you should be more concerned with than whether or not Apple is catering to your self-centered, very specific needs when it comes to their services.
 
Give me a break!!!

Nobody is forcing anybody to sign up for anything. Oh boo-freaking-hoo, none of the three quite simple options fit your needs. Guess what, they fit other people’s needs (posts in pretty much every thread about the bundles). Apple is not canceling the existing a la carte options, so you can still use those and not pay more to get services you don’t want. Consider this a non-event, keep using the services you’re using and stop the freaking entitled belly-aching.

There are much bigger things going on in the world that you should be more concerned with than whether or not Apple is catering to your self-centered, very specific needs when it comes to their services.
Hey....just wondering: who are you replying to?
 
I don't understand why anyone would want the speed constraints and 'rental' of online storage as opposed to at-home backups (and leaving encrypted copies at work or with family and friends).

I don't want to buy three hard drives a week. That seems expensive.
 
What about those of us who pay for Apple Music once at year for $99 or less? It doesn’t make sense for me to pay monthly, when I am already saving money paying yearly versus the yearly cost paid monthly.

Ya, but i guess you wouldn't be saving any money if you paid Apple One per year anyway, so Apple probably thinks those who pay Apple music subscription (per year) is low, just to offer a 'bundle' and 'a saving'

In short: They're probably not interested in the small fish
 
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This is clearly designed to get more people to sign up to ATV +, news+, arcade and fitness+.

I suspect many people already subscribe to Apple Music and extra iCloud storage. The above services not so much (yeah I know some not yet available). So this is some MBA’s way of convincing the stupid media and Wall Street that those lesser loved services are doing well by propping up their subscriber numbers in a bundle.

for my family, switching from our current subscriptions for Apple Music family, 2 Tb iCloud and maybe paying for ATV+ come December comes to AUD $40.97. An Apple One Premier is AUD$39.99. We would save $1.02 and get the other services on top I would never be prepared to pay for otherwise.

Of course I expect I will never pay for ATV+ anyway due to lack of accessing it during the free year, so it isn’t worth signing up to Premier at all.
 

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