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I just recently bought and installed a Synology NAS. It did intimidate me and there isn’t one good place to find information about set up and using it but I made it a lot harder in my mind than it was in reality. I bought a photo scanner and I am literally loading decades worth of personal photos and over 100 years of family photographs onto a 6 tb redundant NAS system. I’ve already converted my iTunes library to FLAC and moved a copy there as well. I still use iTunes and I still have iMatch (or whatever their cloud based backup of music is called now) but albums keep disappearing from my iTunes library, and the CD’s they came from are buried down in storage and Apple support doesn’t have any answers as to why individual songs from an album or entire albums disappear.

I thought most things would be a lot more complicated than they ended up being. The problem I am having right now is adding names and descriptions to old photos. The facial recognition software on Photo Station isn’t working well and I may have to go to a 2 step process: scan it into a temp folder on my Mac, enter the names/descriptions using Photo, then export them to the NAS.

And Plex was really easy and doesn’t need a NAS except for the size of audio or video files. I’ve been pretty happy with the combination of iMac/NAS/Plex.
We're on the same page. For your FLAC files you might want to try a free ROON trial. Roon will work "OK" on a Synology NAS. Also get a free TIDAL trial which integrates with Roon as well. Just like a NAS, Roon can seem intimidating at first but it is not that bad. Roon completely changed how I listen to music. Also try Synology's other photo package called Moments. It might be better at facial recognition.
 
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Well this is all interesting. With my Office 365 subscription - the family plan - not only do I get to download all Office products, I also get 2TB of OneDrive storage for $9.99/month. I can share this plan with up to 5 family members, all of who get to download all Office apps AND who also each get 2TB OneDrive storage. All this for $9.99/month.
 
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No, it is not. iTunes Match is a separately purchased subscription product - $24.99/yr - which ties in to Apple Music.
If you signup with Apple Music and you also subscribe to iTunes Match, you longer have to pay the $24.99 for Match because it's *Included* in Apple Music. That is the point that has been stated and proved over and over and over again.
 
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that is just too bad for apple 1 bundle the services can not be swap around. what about the people who can't benefit from one of the service provided in the package.
 
Well, cool. I have Apple Music, TV+ and 2 TB cloud. I did have News and enjoyed it, but canceled a couple of months ago to cut down on subscriptions. Happy to bundle and receive Fitness + as well.

And I’m glad I read the thread... I just canceled iTunes Match before it renews in November. I didn’t realize I was covered with Apple Music.
 
Since you asked:

The NAS I stated will use about 30 watts and will cost about $31 a year to run. Add two more years to the calculations if you want. But after the seventh year it is $31 a year vs. $120 a year. I will add these NAS do a lot more than hold your files and data. They run a lot of software and can host a Plex server, photo sharing features, collaboration apps. The more powerful ones can work as virtual machines. Host websites, etc. Also, I now buy computers with less storage space on them becuase I know I'll offload my files to the NAS. All our home Macs have 500GB drives. Really not very much storage but we only keep files we're using on the local drive. When a project or task is done the files get moved to the NAS for archiving. This saves a lot of money on drive space which Apple charges a steep premium for. You start adding all this up and the NAS becomes a no-brainer, in my calulation.

To back up your iPhone and iPad, you need to use a Mac or PC. Then you back those up to the NAS. It is easy to use time machine on the NAS. All our family has Mac's and we each back up on time machine to the NAS. You could buy separate external drives for this task. But if that's what you've been doing, you can eliminate the expense of all those individual drives. The process is similar with a PC.

I mentioned running in RAID 5 for redundancy. I've been using mine for over six years. Never a failure, unless you include power outages. At the same time, Apple Services are not 100% guaranteed either and go down from time to time. Enterprise level drives have a very low failure rate. I also own a second NAS that is at my brother's house and my home NAS backs up everynight to the other NAS. This level of redundancy helps if my house burns down or my main NAS gets hacked!

When I'm about to replace a phone, I do two backups to iCloud before I go in and restore from the cloud at point of purchase. But more people today get their phones delivered to the home and you could avoid that step.

I did not know a lot about what a NAS can do when I got my first one. My main motivator was to consolodate all my files and photos. I have old computers going back a few decades? What a pain to find all my old files and memories. With a NAS, I save everything to that and it will be there for the rest of my life. But once I got the NAS and started playing around with it, I learned they can do so much more. I like Synology and you can learn more about all they can do here: https://www.synology.com/en-us/dsm
Thanks for the thorough explanation.
I’m actually sold on this idea, as a separate solution with a different use case though.

I like the fact that it can be a centralized storage for many computers and generations of them. Indeed, jumping between computers to find files, or the “I’ll upload it later” can become quite time consuming and cumbersome in the end. If I already know that a piece of data is to be stored or used more “globally”, then it can go directly to the NAS soon after.
With the 10Gbit versions it shouldn’t be a problem even being a “Web Storage Interface”.

These things are full blown lite computers though, multi core CPUs, 1/2/4GBs of ram, etc.
May I ask which you one would you recommend for a one person home use? I see two main brands, Synology and Terra Master and I guess 2 bays to have a minimal RAID1 mirroring plus drives along the lines of Seagate Barracuda? Or the now SSDs ones are trustable too?
 
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Was really excited until I saw the family plan still only had 200 GB...wtf apple. The article says I can upgrade the storage. Anyone have a price on Family plan with 2 TB? a month

I'm pretty sure I read in the fine print that you'll be able to upgrade the storage tier for additional cost. It didn't say so, but I'd expect they would just charge the difference between the two tiers, which is $7/mo. At that point, you would need to decide if the additional features for the $29.99 bundle would be worth another $3/mo. or not for you before deciding to go family + extra storage vs. premium.
 
Not really... not if you have a bunch of music that's not on Apple Music. Maybe it's changed, but the last time I checked, you'd still need iTunes Match if you want to have your whole library backed up and available on the cloud.
I've never had iTunes Match, only Apple Music, and all of my personal music files are stored in the cloud and available to all my devices (and members of my family).
 
I'm pretty sure I read in the fine print that you'll be able to upgrade the storage tier for additional cost. It didn't say so, but I'd expect they would just charge the difference between the two tiers, which is $7/mo. At that point, you would need to decide if the additional features for the $29.99 bundle would be worth another $3/mo. or not for you before deciding to go family + extra storage vs. premium.
The Apple website clearly says that you can purchase *Additional* storage on top of what your tier provides. It says no where that you can pay the difference.
 
Thanks for the thorough explanation.
I’m actually sold on this idea, as a separate solution with a different use case though.

I like the fact that it can be a centralized storage for many computers and generations of them. Indeed, jumping between computers to find files, or the “I’ll upload it later” can become quite time consuming and cumbersome in the end. If I already know that a piece of data is to be stored or used more “globally”, then it can go directly to the NAS soon after.
With the 10Gbit versions it shouldn’t be a problem even being a “Web Storage Interface”.

These things are full blown lite computers though, multi core CPUs, 1/2/4GBs of ram, etc.
May I ask which you one would you recommend for a one person home use? I see two main brands, Synology and Terra Master and I guess 2 bays to have a minimal RAID1 mirroring plus drives along the lines of Seagate Barracuda? Or the now SSDs ones are trustable too?
Well, I'm not an expert so you'll want to research this a little more. On Synology's website, they list their NAS devices in categories from personal/home use, to IT enthusiast, and small to mid-size business. Inside these categories are what is called the Plus Series, the Value Series, and the J Series (Under the home category only). It depends on how much you want to spend and what you see your future needs to be. Some of these NAS units can add an expansion unit so you can add more drives later if you need extra space. You might want to consider a DS720+ which has a quad core processor and the ability to add a SSD cache later if you want. That is $400USD without drives. You can add a five bay expansion unit if you run out of space. You can move from RAID 1 to RAID5 or RAID6 as you add drives. A couple of six or eight TB drives and you are set! Another brand to consider is QNAP. They have some very high powered NAS units if your thing is video editing. They can cost a lot more too. Synology does a good job of ballancing power and price and the two NAS units I've had from them have been flawless.

I started six years ago with a DS 1513+ which was a good start for me. But moved up to a DS1618+ last year and now use the older NAS for remote backup so I have redundancy. I use 10TB drives. Skill level of all this is low-intermediate. If you can read an instruction manual, are willing to play around to see how things work, and have a little patience, then you will be fine. Synology's software makes it fairly easy to use but I'll admit is not always the most logically organized.
 
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I wonder what the extra costs of additional cloud storage would be... ? I assume it won’t be the standard cost? 🧐
 
I wonder what the extra costs of additional cloud storage would be... ? I assume it won’t be the standard cost? 🧐
I've looked into that. Me and my family currently use about 9TB of space. With Dropbox, I would need to purchase and advanced account for four people at $960 per year. That means I recoup the cost of my NAS in two years. Every way I look at it, cloud storage is not as appealing as owning a NAS.
 
One way to find out!

Though I think they'll charge the full 2.99 to go to 200gb. It's the same when you step up from the 50gb plan, they don't "discount" the increased tier.

You might be right. Just figured they would create an additional savings incentive for storage upgrades as long as you had one of the Apple One bundles.
 
I've looked into that. Me and my family currently use about 9TB of space. With Dropbox, I would need to purchase and advanced account for four people at $960 per year. That means I recoup the cost of my NAS in two years. Every way I look at it, cloud storage is not as appealing as owning a NAS.
The day you have a fire and your NAS burns up you are really going to miss a cloud backup..

I also advocate a NAS for massive storage but family photos and such stuff should be backed up to at least two locations. I belive most cloud services also says that they don’t guarantee your data safety but they sure have better storage solutions than your non backed up, home NAS with maybe one disk failing soon and the parity drive lost while rebuilding..
 
The day you have a fire and your NAS burns up you are really going to miss a cloud backup..

I also advocate a NAS for massive storage but family photos and such stuff should be backed up to at least two locations. I belive most cloud services also says that they don’t guarantee your data safety but they sure have better storage solutions than your non backed up, home NAS with maybe one disk failing soon and the parity drive lost while rebuilding..
You are right. You missed my post where I explained my first NAS was purchased six years ago and last year became my off-site backup NAS when I bought a newer NAS. Synology's backup software make this easy to set up. I set it to backup at 3:00AM every day and it takes about 45 minutes to do that after the initail backup. I did this not just for the issue of fire, but if either of my NAS units gets hacked for randsomware, I more likely will be able to use the backup to avoid hacking issues.
 
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You are right. You missed my post where I explained my first NAS was purchased six years ago and last year became my off-site backup NAS when I bought a newer NAS. Synology's backup software make this easy to set up. I set it to backup at 3:00AM every day and it takes about 45 minutes to do that after the initail backup. I did this not just for the issue of fire, but if either of my NAS units gets hacked for randsomware, I more likely will be able to use the backup to avoid hacking issues.
Yeah I missed that post. Sounds like a reasonable setup.
 
I’m looking for Family plan with 200 GB iCloud storage and I only hope, that I can buy additional 200 GB iCloud storage, as for now our family uses cca. 240 GB storage and I need to pay for 2TB plan.
So with 200 + 200 GB I will be satisfied for long time.

You can do that now, sort of. If you have one user that is a heavy iCloud user, turn off iCloud Storage sharing for their AppleID and sign them up for their own 200GB plan. That is what I do with the my wife. I have a 200GB plan shared with the Family, but I have my signed up for her own 200GB plan. It is cheaper ($6/mo. vs. $10/mo.) than paying for the next tier to be shared with the family.
 
You can do that now, sort of. If you have one user that is a heavy iCloud user, turn off iCloud Storage sharing for their AppleID and sign them up for their own 200GB plan. That is what I do with the my wife. I have a 200GB plan shared with the Family, but I have my signed up for her own 200GB plan. It is cheaper ($6/mo. vs. $10/mo.) than paying for the next tier to be shared with the family.
That's good tip :). I'm using about 160 GB and my wife 80 GB :).
 
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