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Working from home for over a year has turned Apple top executives into delusional lunatics who are completely out of touch of reality. They have transformed Apple from the guardian of privacy to the worst privacy invader. The fact that such people control billions of devices that are deeply embedded into the lives of hundreds of millions of people is extremely worrying.
 
Yes but I have seen many post who seen to think this will apply to their smartphone, and they cannot do anything, and other who think Child and CSAM are the same technology.
The only one we must ask proof from apple that their list will never do anything else than CSAM ... is CSAM, since the Child one cannot be "perverted" since it warn the phone who is "parent" on the family account.
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🤣 This is all starting to be hilarious! You have a company that taught privacy and even put up a public show that they will not even help their own government (FBI). Only to find out this was all a glorious smoke and mirrors show put on by the very company everyone had some type of hope in.

At least China told everyone up front we monitor EVERYTHING. no BS. Just said it like it is. Google, the same. Right out of the gate everyone knows Google knows everything.

But Apple... na guys.. na.. na.. we don't do that. Only to find that later yes.. yes we did and do.

The only difference between Apple and Android right now is simply the language the APPS are written in.
Apple has changed a lot. In bed with Goldman-Sachs over their credit card. Ads in iTunes. Obfuscation. They are also a bureaucratic mess when dealing with simple things.

I'm not complaining. I moved on from Apple.
 
Working from home for over a year has turned Apple top executives into delusional lunatics who are completely out of touch of reality. They have transformed Apple from the guardian of privacy to the worst privacy invader. The fact that such people control billions of devices that are deeply embedded into the lives of hundreds of millions of people is extremely worrying.
Have you even bothered to read how this child protection work and that they don't report to any other than PARENTS ?
 
I am voting with my wallet. I have canceled all of my Apple subscriptions and I will not be buying any Apple devices until Apple rolls these features back.
Be prepared to NEVER have these services again, because they will not remove it since it DOESNT invade your privacy
 
Have you even bothered to read how this child protection work and that they don't report to any other than PARENTS ?
Have you? I doubt, so I will spell it out for you. Apple’s CSAM detection system scans all of your private photos. As if that’s not enough reason for concern, they now consider giving third parties access to it as well.
 
Have you? I doubt, so I will spell it out for you. Apple’s CSAM detection system scans all of your private photos. As if that’s not enough reason for concern, they now consider giving third parties access to it as well.
Don't try to explain me what it does I'm a dev, and I know how it work, all they have to do it's generate a proof that their list of hash is the same of the hash of the CSAM organisation.

And no hash is not scanning but a mathematical calcul of the image, it cannot be reversed and does not contain information from the original so it's not a "scanning" for me a scanning extract information from the photo (scan for a dog) here it's not the case, it hash and AFTER a scanner extract the photo from the hash, the hash is scanned not the photo.
The parental stuff doesn’t.

The CSAM stuff does.
Cool in this case go to the CSAM article here we are on Child protection one.
 
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Or you know, just don’t have iCloud photos turned on.
Or be like 99.999% of people, and don’t be worried about features that Will not ever apply to you
Extremely short sided… and completely ignores the principal involved.
Here is a company that has built its reputation based on promise of ‘privacy at all cost’ who is now, in your face, telling u that their software will come with a built in mechanism of surveilling the content in your phone!!!🤯.. yes, it is photos now… but look past and beyond that……
2nd… turn off iCloud… that breaks the ecosys. another huge marketing point of Apple.!
3rd.. no icloud… no need for extra storage anymore.. hurts their services revenue… a shot in the shareholders foot!

I would not be surprised if there will be a class action lawsuit from …shareholders /etc as this is not in anyway to their interest!….and is against all Apple stood for .. principals we believed in invested in and chose to pay premiums for… all gone !

I for one wont upgrade to 15….
This is total betrayal and hypocrisy on Apple side!

Hope you are listening TIM ORWELL COOK!!!!
 
Don't try to explain me what it does I'm a dev, and I know how it work, all they have to do it's generate a proof that their list of hash is the same of the hash of the CSAM organisation.

And no hash is not scanning but a mathematical calcul of the image, it cannot be reversed and does not contain information from the original so it's not a "scanning" for me a scanning extract information from the photo (scan for a dog) here it's not the case, it hash and AFTER a scanner extract the photo from the hash, the hash is scanned not the photo.

Cool in this case go to the CSAM article here we are on Child protection one.
The post you quoted said “policies.” And CSAM is also being discussed here if you’d, you know, read the thread.
 
The post you quoted said “policies.” And CSAM is also being discussed here if you’d, you know, read the thread.
Don't care about the thread here the article is Child protection you do the off topic, and some of us are bored from reading off topic comment, go to the right article to speak of that.
 
In addition once this launches I see a lawsuit challenging the legality of CSAM software being installed on phones. In addition to that it would not be surprising if a class action lawsuit requiring Apple to compensate users for their devices who did not sign up for this software to be installed. It will be interesting to see it play out.
 
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I’m next. Which distribution did you pick? Looking for a good start (that isn’t Ubuntu).
Congrat to have chosen linux, you will loose many security and a software/hardware who isn't secure at all by default.

If you change your mind and switch to windows it will be the same (their hardware security isn't activated even if they support it (unlike linux (tpm)).

Before changing for a feature who is only announced and not even implemented wait a bit before changing all of your hardware / software
 
In addition once this launches I see a lawsuit challenging the legality of CSAM software being installed on phones. In addition to that it would not be surprising if a class action lawsuit requiring Apple to compensate users for their devices who did not sign up for this software to be installed. It will be interesting to see it play out.
It technically isn't illegal, since the material CSAM search is illegal, and you have accepted their CGU so so, I don't know but pretty sure none juge will punish apple for searching CSAM
 
This new "expansion" announcement is an immediate spreading of the liability due to the inevitable privacy class action lawsuit that will "drop" in the coming weeks.
Class action is not enough. Even if Apple settles for millions, you’ll get a check for $1.50 after the lawyers take their cut.
 
It technically isn't illegal, since the material CSAM search is illegal, and you have accepted their CGU so so, I don't know but pretty sure none juge will punish apple for searching CSAM
I think that is debatable since Apple owns the software and not the phone.
 
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