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Being the overly optimistic person I am I could see a new Mac Pro announced at WWDC in June with pre-orders starting in July and online sales in August. That puts a Mac Pro in the fall.

Announcements at WWDC with availability in August have happened before.

Any new stuff in the fall does not mean no spec bumps before then.


Man, I sure hope so. If Tim Cook continues to drag his feet on a new Mac Pro I will have to move over to windows which I really don't want to do.

Apparently, Apple doesn't much care about the professional market anymore and in particular they seemingly couldn't care less about Hollywood or professional photographers. Apparently there's a larger market for teenagers and mall chicks with iPhones and whatever the iWatch is going to be. :(
 
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Apple needs the hype badly or else people will discover that they can do the same things with other products that can save them a lot of money, too.

I disagree with that "same" part. I don't want to split hairs, but you can do so much MORE with other products than you can with the Mac and other Apple products.

Now, not to say that I am no Mac fan, but I've known about the limitations for almost a decade.

Surprises in the works for fall is a joke to anyone that's been in the Mac sphere since 2007. Apple's been doing incremental updates and tweaks since 2006.
 
Mac Pro for EU please... cant get one at all now, if its not on the release schedule this year, then im going to have no choice but to build a Hacintosh to take the strain...and if i am doing that, i doubt ill be buying apple hardware again down the line as the Hackintosh should be easier to maintain/upgrade going forward.

I guess we have to face it, Apple is no longer a seller of computer products, they are a Mobile phone/Tablet computer and accessory manufacturer that happens to stock a few laptops..
 
I disagree with that "same" part. I don't want to split hairs, but you can do so much MORE with other products than you can with the Mac and other Apple products.

Now, not to say that I am no Mac fan, but I've known about the limitations for almost a decade.

Surprises in the works for fall is a joke to anyone that's been in the Mac sphere since 2007. Apple's been doing incremental updates and tweaks since 2006.

Sadly, I have to agree with you as I've been using the Mac since 1984 alongside Microsoft. Even now I have Windows 7 running on a separate drive in my Mac Pro. I like the way the resolution is displayed in Windows much more than the teeny-weeny size of text and icons in the Mac environment. Sure, I can command+ the screen to see things' Ok as with 'windows' but not quite.

Also, some apps are more full featured on 'windows' whereas on the Mac they're bit watered down. On the other hand, the entire computing experience is more pleasant on the Mac and I would prefer to stay. My gut feeling tells me that Apple is going to completely eliminate their computer line and simply get into toys and trinkets for the 'younger' consumer. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they hire Justin Beaver as a VP for marketing.
 
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There's a lot of lip service being paid to the word "Surprises".

Story telling at it's finest. It should be very interesting to see what actually materializes.

From my perspective an interesting observance is the fact that Apple seems to be jumping around hyping one device or category after the other. One minute it's the iWatch, the next it's the iPad, the following it's the iPhone, then the cheap iPhone, and now MacBook Pro and Air. When they aren't hyping devices, they are aiming the spotlight at J. Ive and the changes he's creating. These sure see to be tumultuous times in the Apple Camp.

With this flow of info going out to the public, who knows what's actually happening behind the scenes.

Most of us long time Apple loyalists, have observed Apple's rather normal patterns of the past. To use a current buzzword.... disruptive, would be a word that seems to apply to what's going on _inside_ Apple now, instead of what they are doing to the industry.

While I'm sure they will weather this "Fit's and Starts" type of chaos that appears to be the dominate theme, one wonders just how long it will take for Apple Inc to settle down and get back to creating great products as opposed to simply creating more and more headlines.
 
Surprises in the works for fall is a joke to anyone that's been in the Mac sphere since 2007. Apple's been doing incremental updates and tweaks since 2006.
I thought about that as well, but have to admit that Apple did more than just "incremental updates and tweaks since 2006":

  • iPhone (2007)
  • iPad (2010)
  • Retina MacBook Pro (2012)
Where i do more or less agree with you is the desktop computer segment, where they really lack since 2006. However that fits Apples voiced opinion that the PC (=desktop computer) era would be about to be over and everything is going mobile now --> iDevices and Notebooks.
 
I thought about that as well, but have to admit that Apple did more than just "incremental updates and tweaks since 2006":

  • iPhone (2007)
  • iPad (2010)
  • Retina MacBook Pro (2012)
Where i do more or less agree with you is the desktop computer segment, where they really lack since 2006. However that fits Apples voiced opinion that the PC (=desktop computer) era would be about to be over and everything is going mobile now --> iDevices and Notebooks.

True about the mobile devices. The introduction of those have been the real launch boards for Apple. While the products are fully realized, polished versions of what others had been doing for a decade, Apple really made them useable and desirable.

Desktops are a mixed bag of hurt. On one side they are the backbone of many industries, not just the whiny media/engineering pros either (I've long since recommended to media pros to abandon the Mac Pro for the HP Z workstations or top end iMacs). On the other they don't lend much to innovation in anything other than industrial design. The market that needs desktops only needs them for one . . . . . at most two reasons.

1.) Power power POWER (regardless of cost)
2.) Expansion (because of a tight budget)

Desktops have really reached the pinnacle of those two options, especially when you look at other systems like the HP workstations. Apple has abandoned the desktop segment save for the iMac because they simply don't want to spend the R&D, when the products make them so little money, for such a small amount of real innovation that could exist.

To make my small rant short, the only thing to do with a desktop is make it faster and/or cheaper.
 
To make my small rant short, the only thing to do with a desktop is make it faster and/or cheaper.
Or redefine it by merging it with the mobile device sector. I remember a patent application Apple filed in the past which had a tablet-like device being inserted into a what looked like a slot behind a monitor.

So maybe the next iMac will be driven by an iPad and is merely more than a glorified docking station, perhaps offering additional grunt (i.e. core-CPU) next to ports, storage etc., until iPad-level devices have caught up a little more in terms of performance.
 
Or redefine it by merging it with the mobile device sector. I remember a patent application Apple filed in the past which had a tablet-like device being inserted into a what looked like a slot behind a monitor.

So maybe the next iMac will be driven by an iPad and is merely more than a glorified docking station, perhaps offering additional grunt (i.e. core-CPU) next to ports, storage etc., until iPad-level devices have caught up a little more in terms of performance.

I remember those patent app pics. I think that'd be a nice addition for those of us that've joined in the post-PC era in full force. Leaving behind the laptop and traveling with the phone and iPad, then when getting to work/home we dock our tablets and get a larger screen keyboard etc. . . I am sure we all know the purpose.

But, I always ask myself, no matter how fast the fastest tablet gets in the next 5-10 years how fast would the comparable desktop be? I think the dockable tablet is a VERY welcomed idea (I am that guy described above) especially if I can dock an iPad and it starts running a full OSX experience. I do also think there will alway be a need for big iron.
 
No doubt this is a transitioning period between traditional computer hardware (Towers, Laptops, Mini's) and small portable devices.
But until that sugar cubed sized computer comes around that can run Logic without breaking sweat, screw iCrap and give us the Pro apps and the machines to run them.
 
But, I always ask myself, no matter how fast the fastest tablet gets in the next 5-10 years how fast would the comparable desktop be?
You assume that progress on desktop components would go on at the same speed as that of mobile components. If R&D investments shift towards mobile components, the progress on desktop components may slow down significantly.

IMHO that has already happened (for various reasons, like technical limits that would require even more R&D to overcome or simply the fact that current desktop technology is pretty much fast enough for 80-90% of the usual tasks), so mobile components catch up faster.

As the gap between desktop and notebook became smaller in recent years, the gap between desktop and tablet will be smaller as well in 5 years from now.
 
You assume that progress on desktop components would go on at the same speed as that of mobile components. If R&D investments shift towards mobile components, the progress on desktop components may slow down significantly.

IMHO that has already happened (for various reasons, like technical limits that would require even more R&D to overcome or simply the fact that current desktop technology is pretty much fast enough for 80-90% of the usual tasks), so mobile components catch up faster.

As the gap between desktop and notebook became smaller in recent years, the gap between desktop and tablet will be smaller as well in 5 years from now.

I agree, but when we talk about servers and high end workstations from other companies that aren't doing as well as Apple in the mobile market, I think R&D will continue on the big chip side as fast or faster than mobiles. You will always have much more room to work with on systems that are twice the size of a laptop, and 16x the size of an HP Z or Apple workstation.
 
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