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Such as? There are millions if not billions of dollars being wasted/redirected to friends of the US government. Often to subvert the wishes of the average US citizen.

What "conspiracy theories" are there (which will be confirmed as fact tomorrow)? Even the government funded Politico quoted Rahm Emanuel, “You don’t fight every fight. You don’t swing at every pitch. And my view is — while I care about the USAID as a former ambassador — that’s not the hill I’m going to die on,”

USAID has done an immeasurable amount of good in the world, and provided a tremendous amount of soft power to the United States, and is being dismantled by a man who doesn't understand the concept of charity - if he gives something he wants something in return for himself -, a bunch of Christian nationalists who have forgotten everything Jesus said about giving to the less fortunate, and Elon Musk, who is falling for and spreading Russian propaganda (gee, I wonder why Russia might not want USAID around?).

I have friends who have worked for USAID and you know what they were doing? delivering food and medicine to needy people around the world, HIV/AIDS outreach in Africa, fighting Cholera in Haiti, and helping rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan to show the locals that while we were against their government, we wanted to help the people and make their lives better. You know what they weren't doing? Subverting the elected government of the United States.

And, by the way, calling Politico "government funded" is a dishonest rhetorical trick. Does the government buy Politico subscriptions? Absolutely. But when you say "government funded" normal people are going to assume that means the government has approval/control over what is published, not that they're buying subscriptions like everyone else.
 
And, by the way, calling Politico "government funded" is a dishonest rhetorical trick. Does the government buy Politico subscriptions? Absolutely. But when you say "government funded" normal people are going to assume that means the government has approval/control over what is published, not that they're buying subscriptions like everyone else.

Yeah, this is one of those that just got twisted straight away (with MASSIVE help from Musk being disingenuous and cherry picking data and amplifying it)

For some reason I never see the outrage about Fox News getting blasted into ears and eyes on every US Military TV one can ever find

I was visiting a relative on a base in AZ (Air Force Colonel) a few years back and it gave me great delight when someone came into the gym we were at and went out of their way to find the TV controls and shut it off
 
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How can the UK think that they can have the encryption keys to MY iCloud data? I'm a citizen of the USA and do not have any ties to the UK or EU for the matter.
The US is.using the UK to push warrantless surveillance. It's reciprocating their 5eyes agreement. They turn over data on US citizens and in turn US does the same thing for UK cirizens. Snowden laid all that out
 
All of our forum debating and back and forth about "Apple App Store policies", "iPad Pros" and "Apple's rumored desktop robot" are sort of seeming like small and unimportant bickering these days

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Everyone getting the Global picture here?

We, as citizens, Right or Left leaning proclivities ... are the ones that need to band together
They've divided us all and now are planning to carve up the planet like a roast and we are all just pawns to them

Dictators and authoritarians globally are cheering Trump/Musk's destruction of USAID. But Trump/Musk think that's *good.* They're aligned with the dictators/authoritarians in this regard.
They are still trying to hide the fact that USAID was very far from actually providing developmental aid. Instead it was a CIA cut-out for (a) fomenting turmoil overseas, (b) starting color revolutions and (c) paying organizations that will affect regime objectives domestically. (a) and (b) are morally questionable, and (c) is illegal.

I would refer you to Mike Benz’s and Raheem Kassam’s journalistic work on that. They actually have receipts, rather than mere assertions.
 
What can go wrong? They will just add another release of liability clause to the terms and conditions that no one reads.
 
I would like to have Congress haul Tim Cook in front of an investigative committee and state under oath, whether Apple is under such legal obligation in the U.K., or not. He cannot plead the Fifth, because he isn’t threatened by any U.S. Government body.

This can then be resolved through diplomacy, i.e., tariffs, if necessary.
 
i'm sure us in the UK will be better versed about what happens in the UK than a US newspaper or yourself.
Chiming in. If you’re getting all your information from the internet, it doesn’t matter where you live—we all have access to the same internet. Unless you’re getting special information, which correct me if I’m wrong but it doesn’t seem like you are, there’s no use in attempting to elevate your individual authority regarding this news.

As far as domestic vs foreign newspapers, I’m sure it’s generally more true that domestic papers have more accurate information, but not always 100% as today’s world is extremely connected and only getting more connected, particularly with big news. And there’s further reason to give credence to a foreign publication when the story involves a major company from that foreign nation. Also governments have more influence over domestic publications than foreign, so when the story’s publication is not in line with the government’s interests, foreign publications can sometimes be more accurate. All this to say while I would give more bias to domestic publications than foreign, I wouldn’t be “sure”.
 
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They are still trying to hide the fact that USAID was very far from actually providing developmental aid. Instead it was a CIA cut-out for (a) fomenting turmoil overseas, (b) starting color revolutions and (c) paying organizations that will affect regime objectives domestically. (a) and (b) are morally questionable, and (c) is illegal.

I would refer you to Mike Benz’s and Raheem Kassam’s journalistic work on that. They actually have receipts, rather than mere assertions.
Color revolutions? Yeah no agenda there just another Roman Salute.
 
What can go wrong? They will just add another release of liability clause to the terms and conditions that no one reads.

What actually could go very wrong is the government storing the data on obsolete and unsecured servers. It will be in the hands of hackers way before it reaches the "5 eyes" thingy.
 
What actually could go very wrong is the government storing the data on obsolete and unsecured servers. It will be in the hands of hackers way before it reaches the "5 eyes" thingy.

Or if they are really "lucky", Musk will get let in to go "DOGE" everything with totally unqualified, unelected, unsecurity checked rando Ketamine Komrades from his Kadre

(yes, the misspellings are on purpose)
 
Everyone jumping to clickbait conclusions here again... I am not agreeing with it in the slightest - but it's not what people think. it's not like they could access your data live and listen into anything. This requires a court order ( which they already have to do for unencrypted data )

Ok some more context that seems to have been missed... :rolleyes:

"The notice applies to all content stored using Apple's Advanced Data Protection (ADP), which encrypts the data meaning that Apple itself cannot see it.

This is an opt-in service and not all users choose to activate it because if they lose access to their account for any reason, the added encryption means that there is no way to retrieve your photos, videos and other information saved that way.

But the government notice does not mean the authorities are suddenly going to start combing through everybody's data.

They would still have to follow a legal process, have a good reason and request permission for a specific account in order to access data - just as they do now with unencrypted data.

Apple has previously said it would pull security services from the UK market rather than comply with any government demands to weaken them by creating so-called "back doors" to grant the authorities access to user data on demand.

Cyber security experts agree that once such an entry point is in place, it is only a matter of time before bad actors also discover it."

The Stupid thing is No-one has access to this stuff. Apple doesn't so they cannot insert a backdoor. All they can do is remove the ability to encrypt it completely. Which is what would happen.
 
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I would like to have Congress haul Tim Cook in front of an investigative committee and state under oath, whether Apple is under such legal obligation in the U.K., or not. He cannot plead the Fifth, because he isn’t threatened by any U.S. Government body.

This can then be resolved through diplomacy, i.e., tariffs, if necessary.
Problem with that is we are far ahead of UK in worldwide surveillance. Remember not long ago the uproar over government demanding backdoor access from Apple? Then poof silence, you think they just said ok never mind? Now Cook and many other Tech Bros donates cash to Trump.
 
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The BBC reported on this during an hourly news brief. We'll hear if they report on it again...
 
The UK has declined recently. We defeated them in 1776; didn't they forget they hadn't learned?

Well if you could actually construct English sentences that make sense, that might help.

Also 1776... That was 248 years ago. We did learn and have removed powers from the Monarchy and put it in the hands of the people. You appear to have just elected a wannabe King who already trying to change the constitution.
 
Everyone jumping to clickbait conclusions here again... I am not agreeing with it in the slightest - but it's not what people think. it's not like they could access your data live and listen into anything. This requires a court order ( which they already have to do for unencrypted data )

Ok some more context that seems to have been missed... :rolleyes:

"The notice applies to all content stored using Apple's Advanced Data Protection (ADP), which encrypts the data meaning that Apple itself cannot see it.

This is an opt-in service and not all users choose to activate it because if they lose access to their account for any reason, the added encryption means that there is no way to retrieve your photos, videos and other information saved that way.

But the government notice does not mean the authorities are suddenly going to start combing through everybody's data.

They would still have to follow a legal process, have a good reason and request permission for a specific account in order to access data - just as they do now with unencrypted data.

Apple has previously said it would pull security services from the UK market rather than comply with any government demands to weaken them by creating so-called "back doors" to grant the authorities access to user data on demand.

Cyber security experts agree that once such an entry point is in place, it is only a matter of time before bad actors also discover it."

The Stupid thing is No-one has access to this stuff. Apple doesn't so they cannot insert a backdoor. All they can do is remove the ability to encrypt it completely. Which is what would happen.
Boldface type doesn’t make something true. Given the people put in charge now, they are about payback and power, from their own words and deeds.
 
They are still trying to hide the fact that USAID was very far from actually providing developmental aid. Instead it was a CIA cut-out for (a) fomenting turmoil overseas, (b) starting color revolutions and (c) paying organizations that will affect regime objectives domestically. (a) and (b) are morally questionable, and (c) is illegal.

I would refer you to Mike Benz’s and Raheem Kassam’s journalistic work on that. They actually have receipts, rather than mere assertions.
Yeah, again, you've fallen hook, line, and sinker for conspiracy theories that are being pushed by authoritarian regimes that are against USAID because it does an amazing job of fostering American goodwill and promoting democracy.
 
No worries. There's an app for that.


I keep all notifications disabled, except text and calls, but that doesn't help. The apps can still hit an unencrypted API for push notifications, which leak the data, even if they aren't delivered.

Bummer.
 


The British government has secretly demanded that Apple give it blanket access to all encrypted user content uploaded to the cloud, reports The Washington Post.

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The undisclosed order is said to have been issued last month, and requires that Apple creates a back door that allows UK security officials unencumbered access to encrypted user data worldwide – an unprecedented demand not before seen in any other democratic country.

The spying order came by way of a "technical capability notice," a document sent to Apple by the Home Secretary, ordering it to provide access under the sweeping UK Investigatory Powers Act (IPA) of 2016. Critics have labeled the legislation the "Snooper's Charter," as it authorizes law enforcement to compel assistance from companies when needed to collect evidence.

An Apple spokesperson declined to comment on the revelation, though the law actually makes it a criminal offense to reveal that the government even made such a demand. Likewise, the Home Office told the publication that its policy was not to discuss any technical demands. "We do not comment on operational matters, including for example confirming or denying the existence of any such notices," a spokesman said.
Apple May Drop UK iCloud Services Over Secret Encryption Access Order


Apple is likely to stop offering encrypted storage in the UK, rather than break the security promises it made to its users, people familiar with the matter told the publication. However, that would not affect the UK order for backdoor access to the service in other countries, including the United States. Apple has previously said it would consider pulling services such as FaceTime and iMessage from the UK rather than compromise future security.

The order would compromise Apple's Advanced Data Protection, which the company launched in 2022. The feature gives users the option to end-to-end encrypt many additional iCloud data categories, including Photos, Notes, Voice Memos, Messages backups, device backups, and more, making their data inaccessible to anyone else – including Apple.

Google has enforced default encryption for Android phone backups since 2018. When asked by The Post whether any government had requested a backdoor, Google spokesman Ed Fernandez did not provide a direct answer but suggested none exist: "Google cannot access Android end-to-end encrypted backup data, even with a legal order," he stated.
The IPA was updated in 2023 to allow the Home Office to outlaw certain encrypted services using a technical capability notice. Apple at the time called the then proposed amendments "an unprecedented overreach by the government," saying that if the update was enacted, "the UK could attempt to secretly veto new user protections globally preventing us from ever offering them to customers."

Apple CEO Tim Cook has consistently insisted that providing back-door access past its encryption for authorities would open the door for "bad guys" to gain access to its users' data. Cyber security experts agree that it would only be a matter of time before bad actors discover such a point of entry. Apple's stance was enhanced in 2016 when it successfully fought a US order to unlock the iPhone of a shooter in San Bernardino, California.

US law enforcement's longstanding objections to encryption have recently taken a backseat to concerns over large-scale cyber intrusions attributed to Chinese state-backed hackers. The attackers infiltrated major telecommunications providers, granting them unfettered access to private phone calls. During a December press conference alongside FBI officials, a Department of Homeland Security representative cautioned Americans against assuming traditional phone networks offer privacy, instead advising them to use encrypted communication whenever feasible.

That same month, the FBI, National Security Agency, and Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency issued a joint advisory detailing numerous countermeasures against the Chinese cyber campaign. Among their recommendations: "Ensure that traffic is end-to-end encrypted to the maximum extent possible."

In a statement, privacy campaigner Big Brother Watch said: "This misguided attempt at tackling crime and terrorism will not make the UK safer, but it will erode the fundamental rights and civil liberties of the entire population."

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Article Link: Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Backdoor
I think it’s time to talk about exiting the UK.

That’s unacceptable.
 
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