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we all agree this is a massive overreach that should be stopped! Liberals and Conservatives agree on something! This is a good thing! Hopefully bringing attention to this will stop it. Happy to support those in the UK who might be able to talk sense into their elected representatives in whatever way I can.

This is the key ^^

The sooner we all realize we've been divided for the gain of others "up the chain", the better for ourselves

There is power in the population and keeping us divided is how they win!
 
They also created an amazingly virulent bat virus with the help of the now pardoned Fauci and Eco alliance. Maybe start a new agency that this time isn't corrupt?

If you're not going to post your medical credentials and education credentials in detail, along with direct verifiable evidence, then I'm just going to ignore your nonsense. No one in the medical world believes such nonsense, and we're the ones doing the actual work, the research, the treatment, and the cures.

All this does is distract people from what is actually happening. We have H5N1 rapidly jumping species, a billionaire unelected immigrant taking over our government finances at the IT level, the UK demanding backdoor access...I could go on and on...but sure, let's perpetuate nonsense about bat viruses. What is your local government doing, your city council, your school board, your state legislature?

Do better.
 
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Source for this? Nope? I thought not.

Verification of the Incident:
  • No major news outlet or official source has reported that a 33‑year‑old man—described in the manner you mentioned—was arrested for a comment about Keir Starmer and then given an option to take a “16‑week course” on his online behavior.

  • It’s not uncommon for rumors or exaggerated anecdotes to circulate online, especially around politically charged topics. If a claim sounds unusually extreme or is couched in pejorative terms (for example, using derogatory language to describe someone’s mental capacity or condition), it’s a good idea to be cautious and look for corroboration.
I don't agree with the riots arrests around social media...but they were SPECIFICALLY inciting violence.

You shouldn’t be so sure of yourself. Play from 1 hour 24 minutes:


Main stream media doesn’t cover incorrect hate crime arrests unless they have an agenda.
 
You shouldn’t be so sure of yourself. Play from 1 hour 24 minutes:


Main stream media doesn’t cover incorrect hate crime arrests unless they have an agenda.
I mean, I don't know anything about this case or UK speech laws (other than that I understand that there is less protection of speech in the UK than the US), I can certainly see why someone posting online "if he doesn't stop someone is going to kill him" about the leader of the country would get the poster investigated.

Of course, if it turns out the person was in fact disabled and doesn't have the mental capacity to understand what they were posting, then that is a mitigating circumstance and should have ended the investigation, but given how someone recently tried to assassinate the former and now again-President of the United States while campaigning a few months ago, it seems inherently reasonable to look into someone saying things like that.
 
If UK government gains access, what would stop the USA government also having access?
As the article points out, what would stop the UK from having access to all iCloud data? And what about tourists just passing through? I’d love to visit the UK again, but I don’t want to have to wipe my phone to do it. This is straight up fascism.
 
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You shouldn’t be so sure of yourself. Play from 1 hour 24 minutes:


Main stream media doesn’t cover incorrect hate crime arrests unless they have an agenda.

Isn't TalkTV a Rupert Murdoch entity?

Scanning a few of the channels video thumbnails and the headlines, I'd honestly recommend branching out a bit on the news sources
 
As I said in the story about the porn app, Apple should stop doing business with the EU.
 
As I said in the story about the porn app, Apple should stop doing business with the EU.

This story is about the UK

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UK government and USA and many others already have agreement to access info VIA COURT ORDER - and this NEW edict is still by court order but to any encrypted information
How many law enforcement agencies have been found guilty of accessing data without court permission? Several. This whole thing requires trust on the governments, which I do not. Governments have been found accessing data to which they have no right and did so without a court order.

Beyond the governments, once there is a way into a system, someone will find a way in without oversight. Nothing is 100% secure at all times from all entities. The trick is to make it so difficult that it is not worth the effort.
 
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Isn't TalkTV a Rupert Murdoch entity?

Scanning a few of the channels video thumbnails and the headlines, I'd honestly recommend branching out a bit on the news sources
As someone who makes a point of seeking out multiple news sources, I have a slight problem with comments like this one. Something that becomes obvious to me when I look at different news sources is that their ideological slant is often less about the accuracy of an individual story than about what it chooses to play up/report, or bury/not report.

I’m not commenting on this particular story because I have not taken the time to look into it, but it seems to me if it is true, the question becomes, why was it not reported in other “non-Murdoch” outlets? The point is, the comment suggests the other party is only consulting a narrow set of sources with a particular bias. This may or may not be the case.
 
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As someone who makes a point of seeking out multiple news sources, I have a slight problem with comments like this one. Something that becomes obvious to me when I look at different news sources is that their ideological slant is often less about the accuracy of an individual story than about what it chooses to play up/report, or bury/not report.

I’m not commenting on this particular story because I have not taken the time to look into it, but it seems to me if it is true, the question becomes, why was it not reported in other “non-Murdoch” outlets? The point is, the comment suggests the other party is only consulting a narrow set of sources with a particular bias. This may or may not be the case.

My comment is strictly aimed at the Murdoch part
No offense to you is meant, but he's not operating in good faith and never has been

He played a massive role in laying the ground work to get the US where it is now with how he ran Fox News from its inception

His outlets are never really trying to be "fair and balanced", which is the fully gaslighting slogan Fox News uses.

With respect, I just can't trust anything he's financing or owns, as the track record of the behavior is now very long

His incentives are divisiveness and highly partisan
Incentives matter

News outlets can and do get things wrong -- it's inevitable
His entities are not all interested in a factual and fair record -- they don't even correct the record when appropriate

I'm sure this comment will be offensive to some

I know how this goes -- I have a couple family members who were fully destroyed by Fox News drumming into their brain for decades ... and they are flat out insane at this point
 
This is insane. Absolutely not acceptable. What is this ? The old USSR or the United Kingdom ?
You're thinking of the sitcom Comrade Dad. "Comrade Dad is a BBC satirical sitcom set in 1999 in Londongrad, the capital of the USSR-GB, after the United Kingdom has been invaded by the Soviet Union and turned into a communist state. The programme focussed on the Dudgeon family (starring George Cole as Reg Dudgeon) and their attempts to adapt to the new order."
 
As the article points out, what would stop the UK from having access to all iCloud data? And what about tourists just passing through? I’d love to visit the UK again, but I don’t want to have to wipe my phone to do it. This is straight up fascism.
I agree.
 
As the article points out, what would stop the UK from having access to all iCloud data? And what about tourists just passing through? I’d love to visit the UK again, but I don’t want to have to wipe my phone to do it. This is straight up fascism.

Let's hope you're not a non US citizen going to the US, got some bad news for you...
 
Hah. Normally in cases like this I'd say I hope Apple tell the UK government where to stick their demand, but I don't think that even needs saying in this case, there isn't a chance in heck they'd comply with this.

Instead, let them disable their services in the UK and see how that turns out for Labour come the next General Election. Of course, if Labour win anyway I'll have egg on my face and my iCloud won't work...
 
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Hah. Normally in cases like this I'd say I hope Apple tell the UK government where to stick their request, but I don't think that even needs saying in this case, there isn't a chance in heck they'd comply with this.

Instead, let them disable their services in the UK and see how that turns out for Labour come the next General Election. Of course, if Labour win anyway I'll have egg on my face and my iCloud won't work...

You are aware of what they did in China, right?

(complied)

As a corporation, you comply with governments
 
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Let's hope you're not a non US citizen going to the US, got some bad news for you...
Even US citizens at the border have significantly fewer rights.

U.S. citizens re-entering the country are subject to search by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers, including searches of electronic devices like phones and laptops. CBP has the authority to conduct these searches without a warrant or probable cause. They can't prohibit you from re-entering the country if you're American (but can if you're not a citizen), but they can seize your device and hold you for questioning.
 
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Not the same though. This would be a fundamental breaking of iCloud security, for everyone.

Correct. I also don't like it or want it

But corporations don't get to "not comply with the government", as you'd said they would likely do

There have been many efforts to ban encryption in the World, including in the EU I believe

Our data is in harms way
 
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