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Apple Ordered to Alter Website Statement Acknowledging Samsung Galaxy Tab Did Not Infringe on iPad Design
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No, in Germany and the USA Samsung won regarding the design/community designs exactly like in the UK
Samsung has better things to do than sue over libel... the actually have innovating to do, unlike apple who now just copies all their new features from android...
You can say a lot of things about Apple. One thing you would have trouble justifying is a claim that they were "ethically sound"
The judge made a determination that some specific Samsung products did not infringe upon a specific Apple patent. That is not the same as saying Samsung has not been engaging in copying.
And like I said, if Samsung thought they were defamed, let them sue for libel. If indeed this was punishment for the statement being defamatory, ordered with no evidence provided and no trial, the state of the UK judiciary is even worse than I had feared.
Easily solved.
Simply amend the link titled "Samsung/Apple UK judgement" and put another link next to it headed "Samsung/Apple USA judgement".
Simply amend the link titled "Samsung/Apple UK judgement" and put another link next to it headed "Samsung/Apple USA judgement".
Why would Samsung bother suing over libel when the judge will punish Apple for it without any need for such trivialities as a trial and evidence.
No, he didn't give that as "the" reason. There were several factors that lead him to a non-infringement verdict, most about shapes of the bezels, shape of the edges, design elements on the back of the tablet, the fact that the front is a functional element rather than a design element etc...
It's all detailed over like 20 or so paragraphs of texts, with images explaining his reasoning. Yet people go and read the final paragraph, with the "overall impression". The TL;DR version if you will.
Do yourself a favor, read the actual ruling posted on the 9th :
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Patents/2012/1882.html
Then read how it was upheld during appeal :
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html
It'll make you look a bit more informed and knowledgeable about what you're commenting on.
Were you planning on actually purchasing anything this holiday season or are you just saying that?
I think a small price hike isn't implausible, currency exchange rate do fluctuate daily. It's not like they haven't done it before either.
And if you think a small hike is going to stop people with buying power from actually buying... we're already paying premium price for premium products, small hike makes little difference.
Or even better just follow the instructions from the court rather than behaving like a petulant child?
Erm? You do know the whole point of a court and a trial is to prove who's is right or wrong by law and who is guilty or innocent right?
Not to mention the fact the appeals court also told Apple they were, wrong.
And in light of the fact that most USA courts also denied Apple claims (invalidation of rubber-band patent is the latest example), Apple should just INCREASE prices across the board in the USA too, by 10%. All thru the holiday season
ANd what about those pesky courts in Netherlands, Germany, Australia and Japan? Punish them too. Not to mention iPad debacle in China!
Actually, yes, you're entitled to say that. But that's not what the quote says. The quote doesn't say "We will appeal the verdict and still think there are issues with Samsung in regards to our IP". They wouldn't have gotten in trouble for stating that, as it is a fact and an impression.
Read the quote carefully, read the ruling entirely. It's because Apple kept on the media pressure, the "Samsung blatantly copied" line even after they got a non-infringement verdict, as if that verdict had never happened.
Fines ? Jail time ? Both would have also been possible consequences. The courts thought that simply rectifying the damage done by their media campaign was more appropriate.
In other words, if Apple had kept its mouth shut, no such ruling would have been made.
God I so seriously hope and pray you have nothing to do with the running of a business in any way shape or form, if you do then I suggest you file for bankruptcy now!
Seriously, you see nothing wrong with Apple only putting prices up in the UK due to the ruling of the British courts in it's case? You seriously believe that?
They didn't post the court's statement verbatim, as such, they would have been required to submit their modifications for court approval before hand. They didn't.
Hence now they are getting into trouble. Why is this so hard to grasp ? It was blatant the last time we had this conversation, now the courts have spelled it out and some of you still fail at reading comprehension.
Well in this case it is the judges words whether it be Apple getting benefits from free Judge advertising or not. Apple did what they were told to do and quoted the exact words from a judges mouth (If anyone is gonna get into trouble the judge will be taken down with them).
I don't understand why people are crying over this so hard. Was Apple meant to write "We are not as cool as Samsung" instead?
This post reinforces what a bunch of ignorant morons live in America. I mean what other country in the developed world has a population where only a quarter have ever left the country?
Looking at those Americans who actually think seeing the world is to be encouraged is a comical sight. Those lard arses waddling from McDonalds to McDonalds are the cream of the crop!
Sorry, this is the outlandish and idiotic comments thread isn't it?
Dude you have got to be nuts to think we would actually waddle from McDonalds to McDonalds,we just drive and park as close as possible
But seriously I don't see what the issue is, Apple stated the facts of the case and complied with the orders of the court. Where they diverted from the courts order is the last paragraph that mocks the UK court decision...but it's all truth.
I'm intending on buying a BTO iMac 27", that's the main reason I joined this community.
10% is a small price hike on items such as the iPod but when it comes to the MacBook Pro/iMac/iPad it starts to become even more significantly overpriced compared to what it costs in the US.
The point exactly... the concept of them pulling business from the UK is ridiculous.
Apple weren't ordered to put up advertisements and announce it on their website with 11pt font. Ahead of the holiday season.
Nice try.
I was going to say the EXACT same thing. beat me too it
thats exactly what apple has started to sound like in this.
All they need to do is post "Court rulings found Samsung did not infringe on patent __________ "
tahts it.
The fact that they're throwing around marketting bullcrap into the mix is making them sound like that little twerp brat kid who is still trying to justify what they did was wrong.
Analogy:
Apple is the kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Mom came along and said "stop that, I said NO cookies". The kid turns around and says "but i asked daddy after I asked you and he said it was ok!"
Thats what I feel apple has done here. Mommy (mum UK) has said "NO", and apple has turned around and said, "uyou said no, BUT daddy! (US) says yes, SO I"M DOING IT ANYWAYS"
you can bet your bottoms that in the end, Mommy is going to be pissed. You're not going to get your cookie and you're going to get in trouble for ignoring the letter of your mom's decision and saying ignoring her was ok cause you asked daddy later (usualyl without telling daddy that mom said no anyways).
In the Original Statement Apple posted, the first 3/4's, while absolutely "twisting" and taking out of specific context the judges wording in order to make it more marketably favourable, it was acceptible. It was the last paragraph in which Apple purposely thumbed their nose at the UK court system by saying "other people found differently than you" that was completely unacceptible. The courts decision is in the UK and the UK letter of law is what was enforced on the UK site. if Apple doesn't agree with the UK court system, they are completely entitled to stop doing business in the UK
Then they'll be wrong again. The court has now ordered that they publish on their front page the fact that the previous statement was false along with the original statement the count intended.
And yes it has backfired since now the media is covering how Apple upsetted a Judge and went against an official court ruling after losing their appeal :
It has backfired.
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You must not read many of my posts then. I point out when I feel Apple is wrong, and I point out when I feel Apple is right.
Selective bias on your part ?