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Apple Ordered to Alter Website Statement Acknowledging Samsung Galaxy Tab Did Not Infringe on iPad Design
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It could well be argued that although the spirit of the ruling may not be contained in the Apple post they have quoted the judges ruling verbatim. Maybe if the judge hadn't been so stupidly childish in his summing up this wouldn't have happened, he is there to interpret the law not decide what is 'cool' or not. I suppose if they just put the text 'Samsung didn't copy us' that wouldn't have been ok either because it does not reference the ruling. We all know Samsung copied apple the evidence is there in internal documentation that has since come to light.
Also 14 days is not that bad, its not just a case of rewriting some text, this then has to be okayed by a bunch of managers and lawyers and that takes time.
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The case was never about "copying", it was to determine whether Samsung had infringed Apple's registered design and the judges found that they hadn't...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19989750
Are you saying that Apple should punish countries only for court decisions that require them to put up advertisements and announce it on their website with 11pt font? Why stop there?
Bad Case Of A Dumb Judge....
This is the case of one ignorant judge. How dare he try and censor Apple on what he said in court!? Apple is only stating the facts on what this judge said - in court no less!!
Easy solution. Whoever appointed this inept judge needs to remove him from his high podium. He has no business handing down judgement, in my opinion.
I hope Apple ignores him, to see what this dumb judge tries to do.
This is the case of one ignorant judge. How dare he try and censor Apple on what he said in court!? Apple is only stating the facts on what this judge said - in court no less!!
Easy solution. Whoever appointed this inept judge needs to remove him from his high podium. He has no business handing down judgement, in my opinion.
I hope Apple ignores him, to see what this dumb judge tries to do.
This court order is such BS. Seems unfair when Samsung did copy & infringe. The judge must be an Android fanboy.
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I hope you're joking... You don't want to give such a bad impression on the level of intelligence you have...
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This is the case of one ignorant judge. How dare he try and censor Apple on what he said in court!? Apple is only stating the facts on what this judge said - in court no less!!
Easy solution. Whoever appointed this inept judge needs to remove him from his high podium. He has no business handing down judgement, in my opinion.
I hope Apple ignores him, to see what this dumb judge tries to do.
Contempt of court? For that Apple execs can go to jail. Is that what you want to see? Apple has been running short on execs lately as it is...
A thought for all of you Americans who are piling on the UK courts/judges as "dumb" and think Apple should just ignore them
If a successful, popular, foreign technical company, lets say someone like Dyson, were the subject of a Supreme Court order in the USA, and acted on it in such a way that it made clear they were mocking the judge and the law of the land, would you be on the side of the company? Or would you be outraged at the disrespect shown to one of the Executive Branches and thus the USA? Would you be calling for the company to be held to account?
Just wonderin'...
If a successful, popular, foreign technical company, lets say someone like Dyson, were the subject of a Supreme Court order in the USA, and acted on it in such a way that it made clear they were mocking the judge and the law of the land, would you be on the side of the company? Or would you be outraged at the disrespect shown to one of the Executive Branches and thus the USA? Would you be calling for the company to be held to account?
Just wonderin'...
Living in USA, obviously you understand that most Americans do not treat other countries as equal. What's good for the goose... is not good enough for USA. We will bomb Iran for violating UN resolutions, then we will violate UN resolutions any way we want. That's just one example.
Dummy Judge!!!
Ha ha! I'd love to see a punk UK judge try and put Apple exec's in jail!! Let's see how long THAT takes! I'd be willing to bet the judge would die before the battle ever ended in court.
Apple, to spite that dumb judge, should post what he wants on their UK web site, but make it about .02 inches in heigth, and white text on white background.
Ha ha! I'd love to see a punk UK judge try and put Apple exec's in jail!! Let's see how long THAT takes! I'd be willing to bet the judge would die before the battle ever ended in court.
Apple, to spite that dumb judge, should post what he wants on their UK web site, but make it about .02 inches in heigth, and white text on white background.
Ha ha! I'd love to see a punk UK judge try and put Apple exec's in jail!! Let's see how long THAT takes! I'd be willing to bet the judge would die before the battle ever ended in court.
Apple, to spite that dumb judge, should post what he wants on their UK web site, but make it about .02 inches in heigth, and white text on white background.
It's quite easy actually... It's just an exec, not a Mafioso family Godfather or a former Prime Minister...
Yeah exactly. Except for the fact that the Galaxy Tab was ruled not to infringe in the UK court. It was also found not to infringe Apples design patents in the USA trial. I believe the Dutch court also found no infringement and in Germany I believe there is a prelimanary injunction but it is still pending trial. So if Samsung did infringe as you say it must have been on something other than the Apple design in question.
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In the United States, such an order would be tossed in the first appeal as unconstitutional. And mocking our courts, executive and legislators is common.
No.
The information that comes across in most of the news accounts is incomplete, and in it's incompleteness it seems to be an unjust ruling by the judge.
I think Americans in one state would be quick to blame a judge in another state, and the whole judicial system in that state for a ruling they didn't like; they are not being any more harsh with regard to the UK.
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Exactly my point, why was the judge making half arsed comments about how cool something looks when he should have been referencing purely legal reasons for his decision. The comments he made are an embarrassment to the British legal system and Apple rightfully quoted his judgment verbatim on their site.
No Lifetime Judges.....
I, for one, do not believe ANY judge shall have his position for a lifetime permanent job. It is too easy for a judge to be in his position for a long period of time, and not become corrupt. It saddens and infuriates me when judges release convicted felons of rape and murder back out on the street, because of some backroom handshake(s). I've seen it happen way too many times.
Let a judge hold office for 2 terms ( 8 years tops ), then kick him out, and let someone else pass judgement down.
I, for one, do not believe ANY judge shall have his position for a lifetime permanent job. It is too easy for a judge to be in his position for a long period of time, and not become corrupt. It saddens and infuriates me when judges release convicted felons of rape and murder back out on the street, because of some backroom handshake(s). I've seen it happen way too many times.
Let a judge hold office for 2 terms ( 8 years tops ), then kick him out, and let someone else pass judgement down.
Reading this entire thread has just made me think of Billy Madison.
"Overzelous Apple fans, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "
Just amend the notice, post it, and move on. No ones going to bother to read it. Anyone defending Apples behavior, calling the UK socialists, etc. is just a waste of time. Its a court order, Apple is a big boy, get it over with.
"Overzelous Apple fans, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "
Just amend the notice, post it, and move on. No ones going to bother to read it. Anyone defending Apples behavior, calling the UK socialists, etc. is just a waste of time. Its a court order, Apple is a big boy, get it over with.
I hope by "great" you mean childish, juvenile, and immature. Because that's all it was. But you're right, now we can add stupid to the list.
Yes, they did. They posted the required notice on their web site. That complies with the ruling. The fact that they may have added, separately from the notice, verbiage that used the content from the judge's ruling, is outside the court's control, as far as I'm concerned. It's a public record.
If the judge is embarrassed, and he should be, it's because he appeared to use no recognizable statute or standard in reaching his decision; "not as cool"?. Disbarment proceedings should be initiated.
All part of the Plan.......?
Firstly, Apple wouldn't have done this without the agreement of its UK lawyers, who clearly know how far they could push the UK Judiciary without being held in contempt of Court. They've probably achieved that and succeeded in showing how ridiculous the original Judgement was (in terms of what it said Apple had to do). Clearly Samsung is a copyist but the devil is in the detail especially when we are talking patents.
They've tickled Their Lordships sufficiently to generate a another load of free publicity knocking down Samesung, without taking much of a hit from anyone other than said Lordships and all the Samedroid fanboys. Mission accomplished.
Next, deal with Samsung:
1. With better products, iOs, OS X and iPhone hardware etc.
2. By removing their business from Samsung, hitting them in the pocket where it hurts most by depriving them of orders for parts, the opportunity to steal IP from Apple and to create clones of Apple product which can divert sales away from Apple.
Revenge is a dish best served cold and I guess this plan is probably being played out now, but we'll never know....
Firstly, Apple wouldn't have done this without the agreement of its UK lawyers, who clearly know how far they could push the UK Judiciary without being held in contempt of Court. They've probably achieved that and succeeded in showing how ridiculous the original Judgement was (in terms of what it said Apple had to do). Clearly Samsung is a copyist but the devil is in the detail especially when we are talking patents.
They've tickled Their Lordships sufficiently to generate a another load of free publicity knocking down Samesung, without taking much of a hit from anyone other than said Lordships and all the Samedroid fanboys. Mission accomplished.
Next, deal with Samsung:
1. With better products, iOs, OS X and iPhone hardware etc.
2. By removing their business from Samsung, hitting them in the pocket where it hurts most by depriving them of orders for parts, the opportunity to steal IP from Apple and to create clones of Apple product which can divert sales away from Apple.
Revenge is a dish best served cold and I guess this plan is probably being played out now, but we'll never know....