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Apple Ordering Components and Flash RAM for New iPhone?
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All I want to know is if 3G users, with a year left on their contract, will be elligible to upgrade in June (with contract extension, of course).
To keep the cost down (relative to the Touch) AND to switch all of their players over to flash, could Apple keep the form factor of the iPod Classic (maybe a bit smaller) and just use the flash chips to make up 128GB? I'm sure if they could fit that many in the nano then we'd likely see the iPod form factor slowly phased out but if they can't cram them into the nano, why wouldn't they just keep the iPod Classic and add flash memory? I want lots of storage but don't necessarily want the Touch (I have an iPhone)
Call ATT and ask when you are eligible for an upgrade. That should answer your question.
I have been beating this subject on a few different posts, it all depends when they are eligible to upgrade, ATT clearly states that you CAN upgrade as long as you sign a new 2 year contract.
On another note, Apple is almost on the same road map as last year of purchasing materials for the next iphone. Now all we need are some kind of pictures to start seeping out!
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I tried calling AT&T and I asked them this due to the fact that this happened with the release of the 3G iPhone. Back when 3G was released, they allowed any iPhone user eligible for upgrade regardless of where they stood in the contract. I'm sure it depends where you stand in your contract. If you got the 3G iPhone on it's release, then you should be fine. If not, then that's where it get's sticky.
They said since they have no idea of these rumors being legit, they can't comment on it. I've talked with two reps and they said that if they did it once, they are most likely to do it again but nothing is set in stone. I was going to call back once more later this afternoon asking the same question and see what the response was because it seemed like the lady just got pissy at me. This has put my "sell first gen iPhone unlocked to buy 3G iPhone (which I will unlock) and sell 3G right around new iPhone being released" plans on hold for a bit.
That definitely would not end the iPod classic. If they had a 128GB iPod touch, it would cost like $500 compared to $250 for the classic.
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While I agree this has been the case so far, I wonder if newer design/engineering in the next iPhone will allow for more mem chips.
We have seen rumors of low power draft-n and if it and the BT chip, and the 3G chip all get combo'd into one, yet even smaller chip, does it create space for more mem chips?
Don't know, but it does seem possible that advances in mem chips, layout design, radio chips, with maybe even a slight mod to how they taper the device (like the air) it may be possible to get to higher storage amounts, via more real estate inside.
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-wsn
I wouldn't bother calling back. The people in the call centers don't know a thing about what's coming down the pipe - maybe they do a week before it drops, but they will always give you the "we haven't heard anything about that yet, so I can't comment" line. This is true for all carriers, for all phones.
The most info I ever got out of a rep was when I was canceling my T-Mo account for the iPhone and the lady told me something very exciting and better than the iPhone was coming out in the fall (she wasn't being a jerk - she was genuinely excited). It turns out she was probably talking about the Storm.
Anyway, long story short (too late), customer reps are usually the worst source of info. MacRumors and BoyGeniusReport will scoop customer service reps by months.
I think we'll have to wait and see on that one. O2 in the UK has a history of letting people out of contracts to sign up to a new 18-month contract with a new iPhone - they let any O2 customer out of a contract early if they wanted to buy the original iPhone when that came out, and they did the same with existing iPhone customers when the 3G came out (admittedly without a huge amount of stock to back that one up). Makes you wonder why they're so keen on 18-month contracts when they let you out after 12 in line with the iPhone product cycle...
Hopefully they'll do the same thing this year, but there'd be no point in speaking to any customer service rep at this point - they won't get any concrete info at least until the next iPhone is announced. Just keep your eyes on the rumour sites and see what leaks.
Extremely unlikely.
I'm no expert on how flash is manufactured, but if they say these are fused together to make final products then I'm sure they are right. Eitherway, the 8Gbit is all manufacturing details that we shouldn't have to care about.
What you DO want to know is actually provided on Samsung site MLC NAND product page, which lists all final products. This currently lists 128Gbit (16GByte) chips as the maximum available. According to the specs, these have the same dimensions as the Toshiba MLC chips used in current Touch/iPhone.
So unless Apple redesigns the PCB or resize the enclosure, what we will get next are 16GB iPhones (single flash chip) and 32GB (two flash chips) Touch.
I'd be willing to bet that iPhone memory goes larger. When was the last time apple released a product without some kind of speed or memory size enhancement? From a marketing perspective, this is what the vast majority of people look at to determine whether a newly released product is "better." Seriously, if you get thousands of Apple store employees trying to explain to people walking in the door that they should buy the new iPhone because it has a magnetometer you're going to see A LOT of glazed over eyes. 
apple will make a 64GB iphone
you heard it here first
I would sell my first-born for that (if I had one).
At launch you are going to see 2 versions of iPhones, the iPhone and the iPhone Pro, the iPhone will carry the standard 8GB storage and be basically the exact same 3G phone we've been carrying for a while only at a slightly reduced price point and featuring OS 3.0, and maybe a casing redesign.
The iPhone Pro on launch will come in 16GB only size and feature a lot of the rumors, a few months later to re-initiate hype and sales they will introduce the new iPhone Pro 32GB model.
100 million units is not enough to build 3 different devices especially when the launch date is relatively close. A Later introduction is almost certain. If the chips are in fact 8Gb, then it's going to take 32 of them for the 32GB iPhone, which is enough to make 3.1 million, but demand will be higher for the lower storage devices cause of the affordability.
But, if there is an introduction of all three devices at once more than likely the number of devices will be as follows on launch day:
3.2 Million 8GB iPhones
2.5 Million 16GB iPhones
1.2 Million 32GB iPhones
Now if this is a worldwide release on the same day...well...there probably is nly enough for 8GB and 16GB models, but this all pure speculation..
The iPhone Pro on launch will come in 16GB only size and feature a lot of the rumors, a few months later to re-initiate hype and sales they will introduce the new iPhone Pro 32GB model.
100 million units is not enough to build 3 different devices especially when the launch date is relatively close. A Later introduction is almost certain. If the chips are in fact 8Gb, then it's going to take 32 of them for the 32GB iPhone, which is enough to make 3.1 million, but demand will be higher for the lower storage devices cause of the affordability.
But, if there is an introduction of all three devices at once more than likely the number of devices will be as follows on launch day:
3.2 Million 8GB iPhones
2.5 Million 16GB iPhones
1.2 Million 32GB iPhones
Now if this is a worldwide release on the same day...well...there probably is nly enough for 8GB and 16GB models, but this all pure speculation..
i cant wait for the spec.
i probably would not buy it. but i would like to find out more about the new iphone.
i had the first generation iphone x2 , but gave away to relative teenage kids, because i do not find the phone various gimmick useful for old guy like me, i just go back to plain old nokia which just make calls and nothing else, i really do not think so much feature, and iphone are huge, they take up a lot of space in my jean pocket.
teenage kids love it though.
old people probably pass...............
i probably would not buy it. but i would like to find out more about the new iphone.
i had the first generation iphone x2 , but gave away to relative teenage kids, because i do not find the phone various gimmick useful for old guy like me, i just go back to plain old nokia which just make calls and nothing else, i really do not think so much feature, and iphone are huge, they take up a lot of space in my jean pocket.
teenage kids love it though.
old people probably pass...............
The only problem with that is that first generation iPhone buyers did not have the price subsidized. They paid full value for the phone so when the 3G came out, it was no skin off AT&T's back to allow upgrades. With the 3G, it was subsidized so AT&T may not be as willing to allow those upgrades. Now I'm not sure what goes on behind the scenes between Apple and AT&T, but it's something to consider when thinking about possible upgrades by 3G owners.
I don't know what this means and I don't care. I just know I want my 64gb iPhone (I'll settle unhappily for 32gb). There is no way they can introduce video recording in the next iPhone and have it remain at 16gb. And yes apple, I will be willing to pay a $100 above the 32gb for 64gb!
Your not looking at the bigger picture here people....
Apple, to combat jailbreak phones and phones running on other communications networks will require new purchasers to implant chips into their hands. For the phone to function you have to hold your hand with the chip to the Iphone for it to function. They will be synced and communicate higher up with a super computer buried 100 feet below Apple HQ in California.
I'm willing to do it if I still get that upgrade discount for having a 1st gen Iphone.
In all seriousness, though, how far between an announcement like this and seeing the final result in a product on the shelf? Is it a matter of weeks or is it months? I know ipod nanos are usually updated in September, can the chips be used in them or is that too far in the future or a different chip?
Apple, to combat jailbreak phones and phones running on other communications networks will require new purchasers to implant chips into their hands. For the phone to function you have to hold your hand with the chip to the Iphone for it to function. They will be synced and communicate higher up with a super computer buried 100 feet below Apple HQ in California.
I'm willing to do it if I still get that upgrade discount for having a 1st gen Iphone.
In all seriousness, though, how far between an announcement like this and seeing the final result in a product on the shelf? Is it a matter of weeks or is it months? I know ipod nanos are usually updated in September, can the chips be used in them or is that too far in the future or a different chip?
I can't see the iPod classic being discontinued. But I can see apple updating it to flash memory instead of the "classic" harddrive form it has now.
Thanks for clearing up the confusion Bill.
Yeah AFAIK 8 bits = 1 byte. So the 8Gb chip is actually 1 GB. But I could (and seem to be) wrong.