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Apple Ordering Components and Flash RAM for New iPhone?

HiRez said:
I don't see why not. They embarrassed themselves with a 2 MP, non-adjustable, no-flash camera in a $600 device two years ago, why not again?

I'm mostly joking but seriously, I wouldn't expect too much. Megapixels are overrated anyway. The more of them you cram into a small sensor, the more noise you get, that's a fact. More noise generally negates any advantage you get from having more pixels (and just increases your file size and upload/download times) so it's a loser's game. Unless they are increasing the sensor size, which I don't see as likely on something the size of an iPhone, I don't think upping the pixel count is wise. I could see maybe 3 MP at most.
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Everybody keeps saying that, and it's correct of course... But, you can't compare the iPhone camera with the 5MP phones back in 2007 (Nokia N95, SE K850i for instance). And what I've seen, every megapixel upgrade has been an overall quality upgrade. With cameraphones of course, not regular camera's. Surely that's not due to the megapixels, but the new 2MP-phones are still incomparable with the 5MP ones.

Having said that, could someone respond to this please:
Stormbringer said:
As a non-iPhone owner (yet:D), can someone tell me how much memory the iPhone uses?

So how many is really free (the OS should take some space) and how much space take the applications of a medium user?
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Stormbringer said:
As a non-iPhone owner (yet:D), can someone tell me how much memory the iPhone uses?

So how many is really free (the OS should take some space) and how much space take the applications of a medium user?
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With nothing installed, my 16gb has 14.6gb free. IME most apps take very little space but their are some obvious exceptions.
 
johnnyjibbs said:
Wow! That's a lot of chips. It really suonds like they're destined for Nanos and Shuffles though - I'm sure they'll be moving toward 16 and 32 in the new iPhone.
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I know what they're doing! The new iPhone will have 32GB storage and an additional 8GB of RAM!!! :eek: :eek:

:D
 
Manie Frizzle said:
totally off topic here but i must ask. does this mean that if i lower the MP on these point and shoot cameras, i will get less noise? assuming they have good lens.
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No, because it's still using the same sensor, in which the size of each light-gathering element is fixed. Of course if you're looking at a smaller image it might appear less noisy because shrinking it can hide some of the noise, but well...it's smaller. If you only need an image smaller than what the camera's maximum is, you should experiment with having the camera downsize the image vs. doing it yourself in Photoshop, iPhoto, or whatever. Some in-camera algorithms are pretty good nowadays, but you might get better results reducing it in the computer. Also, if you're going to make adjustments to the photo (red eye removal, retouching, white balance, sharpening, etc.), it's normally better to do that stuff before you reduce the size, so you can work with as many pixels as possible.
 
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Crispy Duck said:
If I hear the Safari getting snappier *joke* one more time I think I might scream. It's seriously old and not funny.
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Agreed, but chill out dude...
 
to be installed on the board of the new Mac Tablet. There is more room and they will be integrated into the board for power savings and manufacturing. Lower density, cheaper to buy....80gb and 120gb models hopefully.

I completely made this up, but I am wishful....
 
It seems like every day I post about how I can't wait for the new iPhone. Articles like this just seem to say that "it is in the works."
 
I think the "Gb" in the original article may have been a misprint -- I mean even the Shuffle is 4 GB, so they would need four chips just for the Shuffle? Doesn't sound right, unless the memory is for something else entirely (iPod that's small enough to fit completely in your ear? To change songs you shake your head. Volume up and down are left and right nostril.)
 
In my dreams I'm already unpacking the new iPhone with whopping 100GBytes of storage. I don't care how many chips they have to use for that.
:rolleyes:
 
Iphone RAM to go up from 128MB to 1GB

These are 8Gb = 1GB. The chips in the Shuffle are 4GB. So why such low GB? Why such low density? These may have nothing to do with storage, but may be RAM. Right now the iPhone 3G has 128MB of RAM - this would increase that about 8X. Like any other computer, more RAM means much better performance, applications, user experience, etc. ;)
 
8CoreWhore said:
These are 8Gb = 1GB. The chips in the Shuffle are 4GB. So why such low GB? Why such low density? These may have nothing to do with storage, but may be RAM. Right now the iPhone 3G has 128MB of RAM - this would increase that about 8X. Like any other computer, more RAM means much better performance, applications, user experience, etc. ;)
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That sounds awesome...1GB of memory in a phone...:eek: I posted something earlier about the iPhone having 8GB of RAM...but I was joking...I'm pretty sure flash NAND for storage isn't even remotely similar to DRAM. Beats me. :confused:
 
Ted13 said:
All I know is about the end product: for the iPhone to be 32GB there needs to be a SINGLE 32GB flash RAM chip. The 32GB iPod Touch has two 16GB chips inside, but the iPhone has space for a single chip only.
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This is true for the current model. That is why the iPod touch has twice the memory capacity since it has two memory slots where as the iPhone has one slot.

The next version of the iPhone maybe different and have 2 memory slots.

strausd said:
That definitely would not end the iPod classic. If they had a 128GB iPod touch, it would cost like $500 compared to $250 for the classic.
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Some folks prefer the classic interface. So we may see the classic with an SSD replace the HD, or even change to a flash memory type system before we see the Classic discontinued.

mikeinternet said:
SSD is fast on it's way to being the drive of choice in all Apple products. These specifically for any mobile device.
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SSD and flash memory are not one in the same.

A SSD device basically replaces a HD. So any device that has a hard drive with a SATA interface can be changed to an SSD with a SATA interface. That is what we are seeing in the MBA, MB and MBP lines. With older computers that have a PATA interface, a SSD with PATA interface can be used to replace the HD as well.

Flash memory devices on the other hand, access their memory in a much different manner.

Regarding the new iPhone, I would be surprised if we don't see a 32GB model this summer. Will it be via 2x16GB or 1x32GB chips? We won't know until we see the architecture of the new iPhone. Gut feeling says that it will still have one memory slot due to space considerations. Of course cost is another issue in that the 32GB chips will need to be cheap enough for Apple to use them in the new iPhone.

It's a long time to June ...
 
sushi said:
Regarding the new iPhone, I would be surprised if we don't see a 32GB model this summer. Will it be via 2x16GB or 1x32GB chips? We won't know until we see the architecture of the new iPhone. Gut feeling says that it will still have one memory slot due to space considerations. Of course cost is another issue in that the 32GB chips will need to be cheap enough for Apple to use them in the new iPhone.

It's a long time to June ...
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I fully agree. By the way, the only difference between the two models is this memory capacity and nothing else, or am I wrong?

Yes, and you can get a white iPhone if you choose the big storage...
 
Stormbringer said:
I fully agree. By the way, the only difference between the two models is this memory capacity and nothing else, or am I wrong?[/SIZE]
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With the current iPhone, that is correct.

There is one memory slot. Just different capacity chips are used.

On a side note, the iPod touch has twice the capacity because it has two memory slots.

viccles said:
It's not that long. It's already April :)
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It's all a matter of perspective. Yes, it's only 2 months, but that two months can stretch to an eternity. :)
 
chowmein said:
the article says flash RAM not storage... maybe 100 million iPhones with 1GB ram?
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No, they just misused the term RAM. It's NAND Flash ROM.

A lot of net reporters these days have no real tech background and after a while, terms lose their actual meaning.

spacevator said:
Think about this! If Apple were to use these 1 GByte NAND chips in an iPhone/iPod touch, it would take 16 chips to make a 16GB iPhone, let alone 32 chips to make a 32GB iPhone. These devices do not have the room.
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They're not used as separate 1GB pieces. They are stacked together inside a single chip enclosure to make one larger memory.
 
relativity

Though June 8 is less than 2 months away, let us recall the Iphone law of time dilation. The closer one gets to the release of the next generation the slower times appears to move.

On a personal note, I am so excited at the prospect of Augmented reality I can hardley breath.

I can't wait to get my own Iphone in July 2010, (4th gen). I will definetely spring for the 64 Gig model.

I can't wait to see what kind of star trek magic Steve and Company come up with:)
 
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