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Nice personal anecdote but I'm not sure how that relates at all to the point. That point is that going against the naysayers, Apple not only succeeded at becoming the top selling smartwatch, but Apple came in to an established industry it was a complete novice in and displaced longstanding industry leaders like Swatch and Fossil, and the decades long revenue king, Rolex.

They're completely different products for completely different customers, yet there's something impressive when Apple comes in to an industry and totally throws it on its head, despite the insistence by critics that Apple "can't just walk in" and takeover. Yet, they have. Expect the same with AR Glasses disrupting the smartphone industry, yet again.

My point is popularity in unit sales has a different meaning than when it comes to prestige. Like cmaier said above, you can resell your Rolex and get a bunch more Apple Watches easily.

Apple is targeting a different segment of the watch industry. Fossil watches and certain Swatch subsidiaries are probably what you are referring to. There is some overlap but Apple isn’t touching any of the luxurious and prestigious time pieces including those of Rolex.
 
People match eyeglasses to their style.

There is no option for style choices in VR/AR headsets.

You haven’t seen what Apple is going to offer yet (and don’t conflate VR and AR). Nothing is preventing them from offering many style choices, just like they offer numerous watch bands and material choices for Apple Watch. If it’s going to work, Apple is going to have to offer a wide variety of frames that look more or less like regular eyeglasses or sunglasses.
 
Doesn't mean they're popular. Look around - how many people do you see wearing Apple watches RIGHT NOW? People only wear them when exercising.

Where do you live? I live in Toronto, and frequently travel to Montreal, New York, Lisbon, London and Paris and see Apple Watches on wrists everywhere.

25 Million Apple Watches were sold in 2018, more than double of all the iPods combined that had been sold at this point, 4 years in for the most popular music player in the world. Are you also going to deny that iPods were popular, that you didn’t see white earbuds everywhere back in 2005?

You know, eventually the Apple Watch’s popularity will catch up to deniers like yourself and your posts will stand here as a point of your embarassing lack of foresight.
 
My point is popularity in unit sales has a different meaning than when it comes to prestige. Like cmaier said above, you can resell your Rolex and get a bunch more Apple Watches easily.

Apple is targeting a different segment of the watch industry. Fossil watches and certain Swatch subsidiaries are probably what you are referring to. There is some overlap but Apple isn’t touching any of the luxurious and prestigious time pieces including those of Rolex.

Yeah and if you have a more rare model you can often get more for it than you initially paid.
Rolex watches are prestigious luxury items while the Apple Watch is mainly just a gadget that becomes technologically obsolete with time. This is why the 10k$ golden plated Apple watch failed.
 
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Where do you live? I live in Toronto, and frequently travel to Montreal, New York, Lisbon, London and Paris and see Apple Watches on wrists everywhere.

25 Million Apple Watches were sold in 2018, more than double of all the iPods combined that had been sold at this point, 4 years in for the most popular music player in the world. Are you also going to deny that iPods were popular, that you didn’t see white earbuds everywhere back in 2005?

You know, eventually the Apple Watch’s popularity will catch up to deniers like yourself and your posts will stand here as a point of your embarassing lack of foresight.

Please stop embarrassing yourself. No one goes to social events wearing Apple watches. People would much rather wear luxury watches than an Apple watch. I have never seen a female wear an Apple watch to a fashion show.

Like I said, the only use they have is in the sport & medical market. They aren't general consumer products.

Just like AR & VR won't be general consumer products, and will be limited to certain industrial uses.

People like you thought VR was a good idea in the 90's.

You probably even think self-driving cars are going to be common haha
 
Please stop embarrassing yourself. No one goes to social events wearing Apple watches.

Please stop demonstrating your limited view of the world. Are you from some hick town with population 12? You don’t seem to get out very much other than to the county cow fair.

I have never seen a female wear an Apple watch to a fashion show.

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You haven’t “ever seen a female wear an Apple Watch to a fashion show” because they’ve never let you get close enough.
 
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You haven’t seen what Apple is going to offer yet (and don’t conflate VR and AR). Nothing is preventing them from offering many style choices, just like they offer numerous watch bands and material choices for Apple Watch. If it’s going to work, Apple is going to have to offer a wide variety of frames that look more or less like regular eyeglasses or sunglasses.

I hope they just make white ones to match ear pods.
 
I say that because people will make a choice between the watch or the glasses. And glasses will definitely look more attractive to the consumer.. And for premium $$$ Apple products, people will opt to buy the glasses and not both.
So Apple Watch will fade away like the iPod.. Glasses have the potential to replace the phone, but I highly doubt watch+glasses have enough physical potential to replace them (battery and thermal cooling).
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You have this backwards. Apple is positioning the Apple Watch at the centre of our wearable technology lives for the long term. It’ll be your most personal device, the one device that you always have on you everywhere you go. The Glasses like AirPods will be an optional accessory that you can add to it. Both of these are items you put on and take off whereas the Watch is something you keep on all day.

If anything, the iPhone is going to find itself less and less of a must have device in favour of the Watch. And this is an intentional outcome. Tim Cook, Jony Ive and Kevin Lynch have all said that the Watch is an attempt to correct the bad side effect of the iPhone in that it shut us out from the world and turned us all into zombies. By definition, they’re actually trying to kill the iPhone by making a successor that allows us to stay connected to the real world and still enjoy the benefits of connected devices.
 
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I say that because people will make a choice between the watch or the glasses. And glasses will definitely look more attractive to the consumer.. And for premium $$$ Apple products, people will opt to buy the glasses and not both.
So Apple Watch will fade away like the iPod.. Glasses have the potential to replace the phone, but I highly doubt watch+glasses have enough physical potential to replace them (battery and thermal cooling).

What if apple glasses are an Apple Watch accessory the same way an Apple Watch is currently an accessory to the iPhone?
 
What if apple glasses are an Apple Watch accessory the same way an Apple Watch is currently an accessory to the iPhone?

I would say that would be utter garbage.

Why would a customer value an accessory dependency chain?
 
I would say that would be utter garbage.

Why would a customer value an accessory dependency chain?

Because I don’t see how you would fit an entire operating system into a pair of glasses, while still making it look like a normal pair of glasses and not Hololens. Apple glasses would be more like Airpods and less like the Apple Watch in this regard.

I envision a future where the Apple Watch is independent of the iPhone and becomes the hub for an ecosystem of connected wearables. Airpods and Apple glasses would just be two of them.

The iPhone would be something you refer to once in a while when you need a larger screen or have to perform a task your watch can’t handle.

The Apple glasses might eventually become a standalone headset, but that would still be many years away.
 
Please stop demonstrating your limited view of the world. Are you from some hick town with population 12? You don’t seem to get out very much other than to the county cow fair.



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You haven’t “ever seen a female wear an Apple Watch to a fashion show” because they’ve never let you get close enough.

You know most of those are paid promotional spots, right? Especially the celebrities. And Anna Wintour relies on Apple advertising revenue, and she has to sell ads.

I actually go to fashion shows as an editor, including backstage, and no, no attendee wears them. The only people I've ever seen wearing them are photographers that obviously can't check their phones while holding cameras. I'm reviewing my photos that includes the audience right now from this season's shows, and I don't see a single one.

Feel free to check here of actual attendees to see if they're wearing smartwaches to a fashion show:
https://www.vogue.com/slideshow/new-york-fashion-week-spring-2019-street-style

I see lots of bracelets and other watches, but only two attendees wearing a smartwatch from hundreds of people.

Meanwhile, everyone has iPhones.

It just goes to show you how irrelevant smartwatches are to culture.

Just like how irrelevant AR & VR are.
 
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I envision a future where the Apple Watch is independent of the iPhone and becomes the hub for an ecosystem of connected wearables. Airpods and Apple glasses would just be two of them.

The Apple Watch is physically and technologically limiting... hence watchOS. If you have to wear an accessory to an accessory in order to match the iPhone, I’m not sure what you’re really solving here.

I know you love your wearables, but can you be realistic for once?
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The iPhone would be something you refer to once in a while when you need a larger screen or have to perform a task your watch can’t handle.

The task coverage the iPhone has over the watch is immensely understated by your views.
 
The Apple Watch is physically and technologically limiting... hence watchOS. If you have to wear an accessory to an accessory in order to match the iPhone, I’m not sure what you’re really solving here.

I know you love your wearables, but can you be realistic for once?

For now. iOS also started out very limited, but look at what it can do today compared when the iPhone was first released.

Maybe I wasn't being clear enough. My point is that you would be able to not only pair your Apple glasses to your iPhone, but also to your Apple Watch as well. The reason for this is that you might not be able to bring your phone everywhere you go with you. An example would be when running, where some people might bring only their Apple Watch along with them to track their exercise, leaving the phone at home.

The larger point is that having distinct wearable devices designed to excel at certain tasks, and worn on different parts of the body, will ultimately offer more value than having one device be merely adequate at a lot of different things.

The task coverage the iPhone has over the watch is immensely understated by your views.

I would argue that it more the Apple Watch will take on some functionality of the iPhone, but also be given functionality that the iPhone cannot (and will never be able to) handle. Such as health monitoring. Likewise, the Apple glasses will probably also be positioned to take on certain tasks from the iPhone and perform them better (namely AR-based use cases).

So here's how I see things happening in the future.

1) Apple glasses is announced, initially needs to be paired to your iPhone.

2) Apple Watch goes on to become more powerful and ultimately gains independence from the iPhone at some point (probably sooner than later). At this point, it is capable of supporting the apple glasses on its own.

3) Airpods would be positioned as the best way to control sound on the go, similar to how home pods is being positioned as the best way of controlling sound at home.

4) Apple goes on to announce other wearable devices (maybe even smart clothing?) that is capable of pairing with either your iPhone or Apple Watch, but the point is that by the time this happens, the watch is more than powerful enough to stand alone and handle these functionalities on its own.

You may have a point that apple glasses might even cannibalise some other products, but I guess Apple will be fine with losing sales to another one of their own products, rather than to one of the competitors.
 
I hope they just make white ones to match ear pods
You know most of those are paid promotional spots, right? Especially the celebrities. And Anna Wintour relies on Apple advertising revenue, and she has to sell ads.

I actually go to fashion shows as an editor, including backstage, and no, no attendee wears them. The only people I've ever seen wearing them are photographers that obviously can't check their phones while holding cameras. I'm reviewing my photos that includes the audience right now from this season's shows, and I don't see a single one.

Feel free to check here of actual attendees to see if they're wearing smartwaches to a fashion show:
https://www.vogue.com/slideshow/new-york-fashion-week-spring-2019-street-style

I see lots of bracelets and other watches, but only two attendees wearing a smartwatch from hundreds of people.

Meanwhile, everyone has iPhones.

It just goes to show you how irrelevant smartwatches are to culture.

Just like how irrelevant AR & VR are.


What a conundrum. Do I believe my own eyes that see apple watches everywhere, including in these photos at fashion shows, or do I believe this guy? Hmmm.
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I don’t think the watch has enough juice to supplement the glasses... it’s optimized to survive on its own and not power anything else... the phone has the graphics and battery to sustain what we’re already seeing in AR on the iPhone... I’m sure those AR apps will translate to the glasses, I think that’s their intention.

Probably. But by the time the apple glasses arrive the watch will be much more powerful. The difference between series 0 and 4 is astounding.
 
What a conundrum. Do I believe my own eyes that see apple watches everywhere, including in these photos at fashion shows, or do I believe this guy? Hmmm.

Well, it sounds like you haven't actually gone to any fashion shows, so, I guess you wouldn't know or can tell the difference between paid product placement and actual users.

Like I said, no one wears them. Just like no one is going to be wearing AR & VR headsets.
 
Well, it sounds like you haven't actually gone to any fashion shows, so, I guess you wouldn't know or can tell the difference between paid product placement and actual users.

Like I said, no one wears them. Just like no one is going to be wearing AR & VR headsets.

Yep. No one wears them. Except for the people in the photos wearing them.

Also all these people:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bu...-an-apple-watch-and-how-much-they-cost-2015-6


https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/instyle/news/celebrities-wearing-apple-watch

Again, hard to know if I should believe my own eyes or your words.
 
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