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Apple Outlines Plan for Bringing Developer Center Back Online

It means that the developer site is not going to be back up any time soon. The release of iOS 7 may be adversely affected since the Beta 4 should have been ready for some time but the developers are still not able to test the new features or bug fixes.
 
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haruhiko said:
It means that the developer site is not going to be back up any time soon. The release of iOS 7 may be adversely affected since the Beta 4 should have been ready for some time but the developers is still not able to test the new features or bug fixes.
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Not to mention unable, in many cases, of even testing current features (for example, I can not enable Game Center on a project until the sites are back up), or giving/receiving help on the developer forums, which are currently the only place you are allowed to discuss Apple beta software, because of the NDA.

So yes, I believe this has already set back developers' schedules, regardless of new iOS 7 betas being available.
 
dustinsc said:
Wow, either Apple is really cautious or that was one significant breach!
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Really cautious. And I said good. After some of the repeat fiascos with other companies I am happy they are assuming the worst could happen and dealing with it. Rather than doing nothing

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wilhoitm said:
This is taking some time! Apple needs to bring back iWeb '13 so that they can bring back the developer site more quickly! :D
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Can't bring back what never existed.

And if they ever brought back iWeb I hope it would be via buying out something like RapidWeaver or MacFlux cause iWeb was a joke. Couldn't make your own templates, horrid bloated code, wasted space with duplicating images etc.

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TennisandMusic said:
Well, I get what you're saying, but it's pretty clear they didn't have a plan for what happened. Their response is to build a new system? That's pretty poor.
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They may have already been working on this new system, or at least parts and just fast tracked it. Tons of developers have complained about the old system for years so it wouldn't be a shock they might be working on improvements.
 
Bug Reporter is back up. That is nice considering two new OS'es are getting ready to launch. :)
 
Major embarrassment for Apple. They got hacked. Hacked big time. I'm up to 20 emails in the last 7 days telling me how to reset my apple password, when prior to this, it had never happened.
 
theBB said:
Bug Reporter is back up. That is nice considering two new OS'es are getting ready to launch. :)
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Bug reporter has been up for the whole last week. They may have briefly taken it down today to flip a switch, but I don't think it indicates anything about the rest of the site, or beta downloads.
 
darster said:
Major embarrassment for Apple. They got hacked. Hacked big time. I'm up to 20 emails in the last 7 days telling me how to reset my apple password, when prior to this, it had never happened.
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Thats not really hacking. Just phishing it would seem, which doesn't even involve hacking per se.
 
darster said:
Major embarrassment for Apple. They got hacked. Hacked big time. I'm up to 20 emails in the last 7 days telling me how to reset my apple password, when prior to this, it had never happened.
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No, they got minorly hacked, and they're reacting with near-violence.

Big time hacked would be databases compromised, credit cards number compromised, critical data loss, malicious code injection. This is nothing at all like that.
 
CFreymarc said:
Apple knows they are one of the highest value hacking targets out there. I wouldn't be surprised if they already had a security breach game plan set for something like this and they are executing it as previously established.

This is very similar to how military and intelligence communities react on breaches. That is they don't make many strategic decisions during recovery from a compromise. You just follow established plans and perform practiced procedures.

While this may seem very anal and un-Apple like, many companies of this size have security policies separate from their core corporate culture. Thus such plans are not widely know except to executives and security personnel so these exact response plans are not widely known nor predicted.
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Absolutely spot on....what some of you may not know is that this is a compliance item required by their outside auditors. They will have to have a comprehensive plan in place or face serious findings which they cannot ignore. Besides, it would be irresponsible for them to not have this plan in place.

What they may be doing is using this event to roll out updates and improvements that may have been difficult without a significant outage. Timing could have been better, but this was not on their timetable.
 
The bug reporter that hasn't worked with my main Apple ID (I only have a secondary one for that reason) still does not work with my main Apple ID. It has the exact same error message it has for years. I've reported the bug with the bug reporter to Apple for years with no response. I was kind of hoping this whole breakdown would mean they would fix the bug reporter. The number of bugs I encounter every day is too overwhelming to try to report to a company that doesn't want to hear about them.
 
TennisandMusic said:
Well, I get what you're saying, but it's pretty clear they didn't have a plan for what happened. Their response is to build a new system? That's pretty poor.
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No. In the current statement Apple say they are updating their software and rebuilding the database.

"Rebuilding" a database means nothing. They could be writing an entirely new database driven application, or just re-creating the old database on a new server from a back-up. Either would fit the vague description.
 
HiRez said:
Not to mention unable, in many cases, of even testing current features (for example, I can not enable Game Center on a project until the sites are back up)
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this might sound cheesy, but I think devs (like you) can use this time to relax and forget about ios 7. Nothing can be done until the iOS Dev Center is back online...

Its the summer, enjoy the sunshine an long days and read a good book

Just my two cents...(Not a developer)
 
darster said:
Major embarrassment for Apple. They got hacked. Hacked big time. I'm up to 20 emails in the last 7 days telling me how to reset my apple password, when prior to this, it had never happened.
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Somebody out there is frantically trying to reset the password on an old account using a misremembered email address. Every time he fails to get a reset mail he assumes its because of the shutdown and tries again later. Fits the facts and is no less likely than any malicious scenario I can think of.
 
charlituna said:
Can't bring back what never existed.

And if they ever brought back iWeb I hope it would be via buying out something like RapidWeaver or MacFlux cause iWeb was a joke. Couldn't make your own templates, horrid bloated code, wasted space with duplicating images etc.
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Yeah, I use/used iWeb for my amateur sites because I never learned HTML very well, and it's a lot easier than coding in HTML or using some other tool, but it's pretty inefficient and buggy. It was still pretty great to be able to make quick and easy photo sharing sites.
 
iChrist said:
Or they had some serious trouble figuring out how to make their database secure. Scary.

:apple:
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Yup, that's much more likely than a company like Apple having secure practices and plans in place when a breach (which is practically unavoidable sooner or later for any business or government) takes place. Right?
 
skidmark999 said:
Lol. One dude takes apples dev site down for a week. How is that possible?
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One dude (or as far as Apple knows, one NSA crack team, or one Chinese government sponsored crack team, or one hacker team paid by a competitor) got past one of multiple defenses and it cannot be ruled out that they accessed some less important data.

As a result, Apple took down the site immediately because that is the secure and therefore correct response.
 
Manderby said:
Take your time.

Make it good.
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Good advice.

I just wish they'd do that with iOS 7 :(

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MacRumors said:
At the current point in time, iTunes Connect is the only service that is listed as online
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iTunes Connect was not affected by this outage, as far as I know. It's been working fine this whole time.

The iAd portal has also been working, though it's not mentioned on the status page.
 
Macist said:
Once again, Apple shows it just can't do 'cloud'.
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Google can't do software development. Android is so stupid it won't recognise when signed updates have been manipulated and include malware. (The bug is now well known and largely unfixed. Two app updates have been found that accidentally were modified by the developer after signing and installed just fine. And now apps have been found that actually do install malware that way).
 
sessamoid said:
No, they got minorly hacked, and they're reacting with near-violence.

Big time hacked would be databases compromised, credit cards number compromised, critical data loss, malicious code injection. This is nothing at all like that.
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It's not a minor hack. For a company protecting a third-party's data, any leak of that data is a major security breach. A minor hack would be some of Apple's data being leaked. When you're storing someone else's data, that data is always considered more precious than your own.
 
sessamoid said:
No, they got minorly hacked, and they're reacting with near-violence.
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1 person being able to access data from every Apple account is certainly not in the realm of 'minor'. It's just thankful that the person that did it was a researcher, and not a hacking group, otherwise the dev center would still be online and Apple would be none the wiser.

Make no mistake, this was a BIG hack and a MASSIVE flaw. If someone had gained access to all that data, or even been able to get further into the system, it could have destroyed the online stores (AppStore, MacAppStore, iTunes Store, etc).
 
Apple must be changing a lot of stuff. It's been like a week now, no way it should take their talented team that long. Probably beefing up the security and redesigning some stuff
 
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