If you're uploading anything to iCloud, let alone CSAM, you are waiving any rights to 100% privacy. Read the iCloud legal documents on Apple's website.
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Apple Outlines Security and Privacy of CSAM Detection System in New Document
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If you're uploading anything to iCloud, let alone CSAM, you are waiving any rights to 100% privacy. Read the iCloud legal documents on Apple's website.
When you upload a photo to Apple's servers, you're agreeing that they have the right to scan it -- whether they scan it on the server or use their software that you've agreed to install on your phone is besides the point.
How is it increased? They know MORE about the content of your images.
What I find astonishing is so many here believe Apple executives just woke up one morning and decided to put this program in place all on their own, without any outside mandate or pressure from the government. And without pushing back.
The rules regarding child porn are often strict - just possessing them, without even knowing it - can be a crime. The law in a lot of jurisdictions simply treats child porn differently from real estate.
Funny how some people are just figuring out just how arrogant this company is.
I mean the cryptography. It's difficult to understand and even more difficult to explain if you don't have a background in the field.
At this point, I dont know how Apple can salvage this situation of its own making. Its actually worse then antennagate since Steve Jobs handled that situation perfectly. Apple Should backtrack and either say thier not going to release csam tech or spend the next month, or months, on a public relations blitz explaing and calming the fears everyone has.
I disagree. I paid for the storage on iCloud. Nothing should be happening. If it is then the attention this is bringing needs to stop the behavior.
and for the experts that do understand, their just as freaked out as the public.
No they don't. That's the whole POINT of this - to move the scanning from their servers (not 100% private) to your PHONE (100% private). It's only when you upload CSAM to THEIR servers that images that were flagged as CSAM on your phone are brought to their attention.
Um...how about neither? Apple shouldn't be scanning ANY of my content. Whether it's on my phone or in the cloud, it is MY content created on a phone I paid for.
Shall we do a yearly inspection of every house to find child porn?
Or the alternative --- that so many are deciding that this was the result of mandate or pressure from the government... as if it's not possible that they actually might have altruistic reasons for this and came up with it all on their own? It's truly conjecture from both sides.
So you want Apple to tell everyone it’s hunky dory if you want to upload child porn onto their servers? Who do you think that will comfort?
And how we deal with child porn possession should never come to assuming anyone might have it.
I’d be fine with that.
As someone else already said, you don't own any server space on iCloud. You're renting it and entered into a legal agreement with Apple regarding it. Here's the document:
Note especially the following paragraph:
And you have lost any credibilty.
They have a legal requirement to not host CSAM on their servers, which they own and you are renting. They get in trouble if they let you store it.
As an alternative... you believe that Cook, Federighi, and other Apple execs on a whim or strong personal beliefs decided to put this system in place all on their own. And felt confident that Apple customers would be just fine with it, with no adverse consequences to the company because privacy isn't that much of a biggie after all?
Really?
So the real issue is we need to fix how cloud storage agreements work. There is no excuse for this policy to exist as you quoted.As someone else already said, you don't own any server space on iCloud. You're renting it and entered into a legal agreement with Apple regarding it. Here's the document:
Note especially the following paragraph:
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To be fair, this shouldn’t come as a surprise given how people have been loudly misunderstanding things on purpose during a global pandemic for the last year and a half.
It's multi-facited
1) I just don't like my phone spying on me. Full stop, I'm not OK with this.
2) Just because iCloud might be off today, doesn't mean it doesn't get enabled accidentally during an update
3) Just because it targets child porn in the USA, today, doesn't mean it won't target political rivals or "wrong think" tomorrow.
4) I don't know where these hashes come from. If I take my phone to China, and have a photo (or 30) of CCP opposition leaders on it, will I get arrested?
Ultimately, as it's written, everything Apple is doing with CSAM is probably no different than what they're already doing on iCloud, they're just moving the processing to the end user so that they can cut down on cloud computing costs. And I'm OK with that, really. What I'm not OK with is Apple building a framework that's ripe for abuse. What flies in one country doesn't fly in others (memes of the prophet Muhammad, Tiennamen Square, etc), and it's ridiculously easy to take an already implemented feature and co-opt it for something else.
This pretty much says it all:
www.macworld.com
There's a small crack in the iPhone's foundation. How big will it get?
Apple has made some interesting and difficult choices with its CSAM policy that are worth exploring and debating.
www.macworld.com