Dear Apple,
I’m not a criminal. I resent that iPhone is now designed to monitor me like a criminal.
I’m not a criminal. I resent that iPhone is now designed to monitor me like a criminal.
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Too late, if you've ever used any modern device in any way whatsoever.
So you are saying we need to be louder until they stop doing the invasion they are already doing because clearly, they want more invasive control.
No, I'm saying all of your photos have been scanned since day 1 of iPhone. Granted, they were scanned for different reasons (applying effects, indexing, etc.), but they've been scanned since day 1.
These Apple fellas makes me heavily 🤮.
Even if you live in a country which maybe will never misuse these iPhone surveillance tools, remember Apple will rollout this to many countries worldwide, and innocent people will take the beat, other countries other laws. And Apple simply will obey for profit, just like they are doing in China, unlike Google.
You should finally start thinking outside the bubble, but seems like an ignorant, egocentric and inhuman point of view is common courtesy now.
Even if you live in a country which maybe will never misuse these iPhone surveillance tools, remember Apple will rollout this to many countries worldwide, and innocent people will take the beat, other countries other laws. And Apple simply will obey for profit, just like they are doing in China, unlike Google.
You should finally start thinking outside the bubble, but seems like an ignorant, egocentric and inhuman point of view is common courtesy now.
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If the shoe fits 👠
This sounds like a slippery slope fallacy.
Oh nice you admit it’s literally a slippery slope fallacy. Nice arguing with ya 👋
And that's clearly wrong, so it needs to stop. We need to make this a criminal offense to discourage other companies from doing it. The goal at this point should be more privacy for the user.
There is one important thing in selling something: If you need several lenghty documents to explain the value of the product to your customers, then something is fishy or the product is simply bad. Even worse: in this case it is fishy AND bad.
Ditch it Mr. Cook. You failed and you have lost my confidence.
Ditch it Mr. Cook. You failed and you have lost my confidence.
You think it's clearly wrong for your phone to process the image sensor data into a pleasing photo that you are able to view on your phone? How is that a privacy issue?
So apple’s got a stash of half a million porn pics, yet won’t allow nudity on Apple TV. Cheeky Tim Apple.
It is if anyone but me has access to the data associated with them. So if you want to make my teeth whiter then get my permission to do it and limit the behavior to what was requested by me. But that whiter smile should never be shared, in any way, until I specifically share it.
Sounds like a similar tactic used quite often to control, all under the guise of 'it's for your own good'.
I’m wiser now!
I’ve ordered a cheap, dumb mobile phone for that, primary use. My Canon, Panasonic or Olympus cameras pose no immediate danger ;-)
All my SIM’s vanish from all my Apple smartphones, and my routers (!) will within a week or two disallow all Apple gear and smartphones to perform uncontrolled, non-logged access to anywhere. If it becomes too complicated or suspect, Apple gear is just blocked completely from contacting anything outside the “Apple insanity ward” in a separate network.
It has the extra benefit, that I do not have to perform security updates, since… you get my drift?
Androids are easier to control; not much, but still. One of my Androids is already used only as a local multimedia control device not able to reach outside my local network. My TV is harmless compared to my iPhone 12 Pro with iOS 15. I decide on my Androids the coming weeks, but Apple is ”persona non grata” in my active environment.
In three years - minimum - I’ll know for sure, if that was a wise decision or not. I can wait. I do not NEED any potentially bad Apples. I don’t eat bad apples knowingly either.
My Windows and Linux computers run in a fortified environment already, so… no need to do anything but a standard periodic security check, now the “bad apples” have been identified.
Windows has always had a far better and far easier to control firewall, than Apple. It’s not perfect, but it has qualities, that I appreciate. My Linux based hardware especially.
I had planned a software expansion of my Mac’s - M1 and Intel - firewall software, but that investment in time and money is now moot. With the “spy inside” firewalls become useless to a degree. Air gapping, isolated networks etc is a better solution. If Apple gear cannot reach Apple or anyone else, no firewall is needed.
Simple, innit ;-)
I can still use my paid-for software. My software subscriptions are all available on Windows too (already installed). Where appropriate I already have needed software licenses for both Windows and Apple platforms (where the latter was available;-)
No new software investments required. Aside from the dumb phone, no new hardware investments required.
I already have access to the options, so why not use them in an “reality adjusted configuration”?
I only have to reconfigure the setup of my existing gear. It will take a few weeks, alas… my privacy is dear to me. Only direct cash cost is a cheap, dumb mobile phone. Worst case, I learn something new in the process. Never a bad thing, this “wisdom” thingy ;-)
You may personally decide differently. No importance to me.
Regards
I think they admitted to having a stash of more than 30 child porn images.
For the sake of this comment, I'm going to assume this feature won't be in iOS 14. If I'm wrong on that, that will invalidate my next statement.
If it's NOT coming to iOS 14 as well, the fact that they're going to continue the support would tell me that there is somebody in a high enough position that doesn't like this. Someone that has enough authority to have a say in continued support. I say that because we all know how Apple is in regards to wanting people on the "latest and greatest" software. Continuing iOS 14 and giving the option (an ACTUAL option...not the usual "just don't update" one) between the two is a total change in direction that we haven't seen before.
Take that with a grain of salt. Just thinking out loud 😂
If Apple was left wing they’d pay their taxes.
Let me help with an analogy:
I don't see why it's a problem if a police officer follows you around and is with you 24/7 but only acts if you try to commit a crime and only produces a police report if you have committed at least 30 of those crimes.
You own the device. Apple doesn't have a right to actively scan it on the hardware you own.
Oh, you're responding to a different point altogether. Admittedly, I was being pedantic with So@So@So.
To your point, if you ask me to store some of your stuff, I'll want to make sure I'm not getting myself in trouble by doing so.
So you think there may be a lawsuit about this? Because it appears that Apple does have the right?
So your argument is… if you’re fine with Apple making sure your photos are in focus you should be fine with Apple making sure your photos are only of state-approved subjects.
You’ve done a bit of an extrapolation there.
Let me give you a better analogy:
"I don't see why it's a problem if a customs agent decides to search your baggage after the x-ray scan reveals what looks like 30 bombs tucked within.
You own the device. Apple doesn't have a right to actively scan it on the hardware you own, but it does have the right to scan what you are attempting to load onto its servers, using the software they own and you have installed on your personal device."