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Apple Outlines What to Do If You Have Issues Accessing a Home in iOS 16.2
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What do you actually want? Version numbers are arbitrary, and software developers continue to work on the things they are tasked with.
Some of us are well over 50 individual devices and it’s pretty consistently us who have been having problems with it. Ironic, since Apple claimed the whole reason for the new architecture was to improve performance in large systems.
Apple would not brand for business version as “homekit”. Maybe, idk, “businesskit”? Regardless, if the software design philosophy and concept at developing consumer product is brought to business world, there will be huge backlashes sooner than later.
Yes, I know companies managing a fleet of MacBook and various iOS devices enjoy the benefit of tight control of iOS ecosystem, but in essence it’s still a consumer first product. Windows has been having lax software update policy for business customers i think right from the get go, and it still is to this day. Why iOS can’t let customer to decide the best timing for their software update? It’s only recently Apple relent and doesn’t pester user as much for iOS update and introduces rapid security response.
>> Apple document: If the invited user has a home with accessories, contact Apple Support.
Case by case debug doesn’t sound good 🫤 This whole failure reminds me of Apple Maps debacle in early days — seems a few Apple people will lose their jobs.
Case by case debug doesn’t sound good 🫤 This whole failure reminds me of Apple Maps debacle in early days — seems a few Apple people will lose their jobs.
I got Homekit upgraded to the new infrastructure a week ago. It was a challenge for a few reasons.
1) I had to make sure all my family members icloud accounts had devices associated that were upgraded
2) After the upgrade, my wife lost full access. I tried a variety of things on her phone (only device in icloud) and I got it working after unplugging all the Apple TVs in my house and only plugging in one of them.
I finally narrowed it down to the one Apple TV 4K device (1st gen) I have upstairs. It was always causing trouble before the upgrade so I intentionally disabled it from Homekit but after the Homekit ugprade, you can no longer disable devices intentionally. I've since had the device unplugged all week and had no issues. I plan to do a full wipe of the Apple TV 4K after Christmas and see if that resolves it.
FWIW my remaining Apple TV hubs are a 4K 2nd gen and an Apple TV HD (last gen).
1) I had to make sure all my family members icloud accounts had devices associated that were upgraded
2) After the upgrade, my wife lost full access. I tried a variety of things on her phone (only device in icloud) and I got it working after unplugging all the Apple TVs in my house and only plugging in one of them.
I finally narrowed it down to the one Apple TV 4K device (1st gen) I have upstairs. It was always causing trouble before the upgrade so I intentionally disabled it from Homekit but after the Homekit ugprade, you can no longer disable devices intentionally. I've since had the device unplugged all week and had no issues. I plan to do a full wipe of the Apple TV 4K after Christmas and see if that resolves it.
FWIW my remaining Apple TV hubs are a 4K 2nd gen and an Apple TV HD (last gen).
Has anyone noticed how Home app on macOS takes almost 3 GB of disk space? This now my biggest app on disk that I have. Seems ridiculous a bit.
The nightmare of iOS 16 continues. This has to be one of the most inept releases Apple has ever come out with. It's just problem after problem after problem. I do really wonder sometimes how a company this massive with all of this talent can have this many issues with what are really just iterative software updates every year.
Especially for what it does... Let's hope it's all debug code running in the background to make the next versions better. Because it surely can't be code related to complex automation functionality...
iOS 16 only started not to be a serious battery hog until 16.2. The iPhone 14 Pro had very very poor battery life prior to that. 16.2 fixed most of the battery problems but then it broke my HomeKit accessories. My HomeKit Secure Video no longer records, no matter how I reboot the Home Hubs.
Major version releases usually include entirely new features, or in this case, a whole new architecture for a feature that is becoming more and more popular. .x releases are usually entail bug fixes and performance enhancements, maybe one or two new features. Since competition is so fierce, it's hard for them to release major versions every other year, but I too wish they would focus on refining features and get the OS solid before moving on to the next version.
What Amazon nailed down FIVE YEARS AGO Apple can’t even touch. Apple profits through oligopoly, not innovation.
What are you taking about? Alexa? They're losing money on that and just made cuts to the project. Amazon makes money from their online marketplace. They're not even in the same business as Apple.
Apple makes phones, computers, and a bunch of other stuff.
HomeKit would never work in a business context. I bet dimes to dollars that Apple doesn’t run Apple Park on it.
Just a guess but it’s probably got a lot to do with the sheer number of moving parts. You know at the end of a major motion picture when the credits scroll through dozens of teams and thousands of individual people? No doubt that’s what’s happening behind the iOS scenes, and to make it worse they’re working with a mountain legacy code that many if not most of them probably had little or nothing to do with writing.
This wasn't just security - this was DRM.
Requiring people to put in a specific hardware component allows Apple to easily meter their royalties for things like accessory sales.
This is also one reason why they mandate apps to use In-App Purchases for certain things - because as long as the purchases go through Apple's system, they don't have to do things like coordinate third party audits of contract-obligated payments.
Right. Alexa and its associated ecosystem is a Trojan horse to make people buy Amazon stuff and continue to subscribe to Prime. Same as Amazon’s streaming service. It makes them no money in and of itself. Instead it functions as a feature of Prime. You know. Like Apple TV. It doesn’t make Apple money. It’s a perk for buying into their ecosystem.
This is one reason why I don’t rush to update on day 1 these days.
Who even wants to bother with this junk anymore? It doesn’t work when you need it most and you gotta constantly fiddle with settings to get devices to respond. If you have HomePods, expect to do 5x more work than a HomeKit setup without.
It goes to show what tech companies think of users who want home automation: they don’t care and know consumers will buy gadgets for the sake of having them (never mind them working)
It goes to show what tech companies think of users who want home automation: they don’t care and know consumers will buy gadgets for the sake of having them (never mind them working)
Well, this is what Matter and Thread are supposed to fix but if the new HomeKit architecture is any indication the prospects look bleak.
For me Apple is now just another tech company where it's not safe to update when a new release is available but see what new bugs have been introduced.