It’s not going to fix anything. It’s yet another empty promise so people run out and buy more overhyped junk, get excited and then the same problems, or more, come right back. Create a problem and sell the solution, oldest trick in the book. Except in the case of HomeKit, I just don’t think Apple gives a damn. And for stuff that’s supposed to secure, protect and monitor your home, I’d expect a lot more effort and enthusiasm than we’re getting.
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Apple Outlines What to Do If You Have Issues Accessing a Home in iOS 16.2
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Apple’s software quality has been going downhill ever since they fired Forstall 10 years ago
At this point, more than a few people at Apple richly deserve to lose their jobs...
So they pulled the new architure, what does that mean if you made the update to the new architecture on all your Apple devices? I own a lot of Eve Energy devices, but have not updated their firmware to support Matter yet. Is the new architecture a separate thing from Matter?
And I just bought an Apple TV 4K 3gen to get Thread support. All our devices are already updated to the new architecture, and now Apple pulls the update, so I wont be able to update the ATV as well which basically means it wont work as a border router with Thread until Apple decides to re-introduce the option of updating to the new architecture. I am furious! Unless they in the coming days allow us to fall back to the old architecture.
This upgrade was the roughest Apple upgrade I’ve gone through in a while. All they had to do was say “restart all your hubs” and I could have avoided hours of cussing.
Suppose Support will have to manually upgrade homes.
E.g. If the family meets over the holidays, and some have old architecture homes, giving access to the new arch home probably wont work. Great timing
Restarting the hubs finally allowed me to get the wife added. However lots of screwy stuff is still going on.
Cannot Airplay to a stereo pair of HomePods or a stereo pair of HomePod minis but can airplay to a single HomePod and a single mini, but I have a scene that plays music to all the HomePods and that does play to the stereo pairs. Also, the tab for Speakers and TVs under Categories in the Home app shows some of the pods, but not all, despite the fact that they do show up in the individual rooms.
Everything has been started and restarted numerous times. I even signed everything (iPhones{mine and the wife’s}, iPads, iMac ) out of and back into iCloud accounts. Massively frustrating.
The Apple guidance actually worked for me. After the upgrade my wife’s access was messed up and I couldn’t add or remove. But I followed the guidance and it fixed it. I think you only need to contact Apple support if both you and the other family member have set up different homes. But if it’s only one home that you’ve previously shared with others, the guidance should work. Good luck everyone!
If only there was a way of testing updates before they were released.
Oh well, maybe sometime in the future someone will come up with a system to do that.
Oh well, maybe sometime in the future someone will come up with a system to do that.
Agree on the HomePods thing. About once a week I have to kill the power to them to get my devices out of “Updating…” mode.
This whole process has been absolutely wild. It's crazy how vastly different everyone's experiences have been.
Prior to iOS 16, my HomeKit reliability had gotten so painstakingly bad, I was ready to jump ship. I figured I had nothing to lose by updating to the new architecture and fully expected it to fail in spectacular fashion after reading all of the horror stories. But some how, some way, the update went flawlessly and my entire setup is running better than ever.
And yes, my setup was rather complex:
-72 Devices
-Lutron Caseta / Hue / Starling Hub for Nest Cameras & Thermostats / Homebridge for Home Theater
-5 HomePod minis; 1 OG Homepod
-4 AppleTV 4K (mix of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gens)
-Wife and two kids as home members – total of 4 iPhones, 3 iPads, and 4 apple watches
-Dozens of scenes and automatons
I updated HomePods first; then everyone's iOS devices, then AppleTVs. Ran the architecture update and bam. Everything was working, all users were able to open Home.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Prior to iOS 16, my HomeKit reliability had gotten so painstakingly bad, I was ready to jump ship. I figured I had nothing to lose by updating to the new architecture and fully expected it to fail in spectacular fashion after reading all of the horror stories. But some how, some way, the update went flawlessly and my entire setup is running better than ever.
And yes, my setup was rather complex:
-72 Devices
-Lutron Caseta / Hue / Starling Hub for Nest Cameras & Thermostats / Homebridge for Home Theater
-5 HomePod minis; 1 OG Homepod
-4 AppleTV 4K (mix of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gens)
-Wife and two kids as home members – total of 4 iPhones, 3 iPads, and 4 apple watches
-Dozens of scenes and automatons
I updated HomePods first; then everyone's iOS devices, then AppleTVs. Ran the architecture update and bam. Everything was working, all users were able to open Home.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
3 HomePods and 3 minis. I stopped doing updates around 14.something and now have most on 15.0 as I’ve turned updates off and don’t want to brick out of warranty hardware with a software problem. It’s issues like this that makes me not regret my decision to stop all new updates.
I’m curious as well. It was painful, but after experiencing all of the upgrade issues folks in this thread are echoing, I was able to get the new Home architecture to work for the wife and me. Working without a hitch now. Were we rolled back?
uh... i remember matter, now there's THREAD too?!? Wtf is thread, a new standard to replace the old matter standard?
No, you're two weeks behind the curve you oldster! Matter is so yesterday, it's all about Thread now.
Exactly this. I don't update ANYTHING anymore. Not my PCs, macs, iphones, watch, not ANYTHING.
All updates now are about monitization, and monetization only, in any way possible. If they can get one extra penny out of you by removing a feature they'll do it, customer be damned. They HATE their customers. Amazon music app taking away the thumbs down button was the last straw.
As more and more people start to get a clue and quit updating, they're going to start forcing the updates or bricking devices that refuse to update.
Try guessing how long it is before posessing a dangerous non-updated device is a crime.
No, they are 2 completely different things.
Thread is a mesh network protocol specifically designed for smarthome devices to use instead of WiFi or Bluetooth which both have limitations since they are primarily built for other use cases.
Matter is a communication standard, a common language for smarthome devices to speak to other with instead of Apple, Google, Amazon, Samsung, etc. all having different ones that devices need to support. Matter also requires that devices can be controlled locally, instead of relying on cloud servers for control.
I'll stick with the old tech that just works.
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Thread is the connection between the devices. Matter is the language. Two different things.
New features that either do not work and or require users extra time troubleshooting are way too common today at Apple. To be fair, the whole technology industry the same. Stop it already!