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Expos of 1969

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Are you saying you are no longer an Apple customer and will continue not being an Apple customer?

What I do is none of your business . In any event, for some strange reason you seem to think that one cannot disagree with some actions of a company and criticise them for said actions and yet choose to buy something from that company. Environment issues are important but so are issues revolving around transparency, telling customers the truth about product problems, actions taken by the company regarding batteries, keyboards, touch screen non-responsiveness and so on. Unfortunately, as I reflect upon this list which is far from complete, things are not looking too complimentary towards Tim. Having first bought an Apple product in 1998, I am not happy about the current state of how the company treats customers but I cannot change that. It is up to Apple.
 

NMBob

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RESOLVE is an NGO and not a NPO (non-profit organization).

Non-Government Organizations
An NGO can refer to any organization that works independently from the government to promote change, but usually in areas where a government may also be involved. No government oversees what the NGO does, and nobody from the government is directly involved in its decisions or actions. For example, an NGO may promote nutrition awareness within state schools and may receive funding from a government organization like the Centers for Disease Control, but neither the state governments nor the CDC are directly involved with its activities.
 

CreeptoLoser

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This fall, Apple says all Salmon Gold entering its supply chain will be traced from the mine to the refiner using blockchain technology.

Doesn't matter what type of data structure you use. Information that is inserted into a database or data strcuture from the real world can be unreliable. So this marketing buzzword isn't necessary. The public doesn't care or need to know what the data structure was. They just need to see real world results in pollution reduction.

But at least we aren't hearing anything about creeptocurrencies which are highly inefficient, gobble ridiculous amount of energy for silly reason, scam people left right and center and are making so many horrible criminals rich at expense of everyone else.
 

Jakewilk

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Great PR for the company that lead the industry to only offer disposable devices. The external costs of rare earth mining are starting to hit China and other countries. Yet Apple consumers who want to minimize the impact of their buying decisions have NO OPTION to buy a device who life can be easily extended via parts replacement. Sad legacy, but shareholders have been very happy.

Why is it that there are always only two potential futures for a piece of tech? You seem to think that the only options are to repair or dispose. Have you never considered that apple products are highly recyclable? Minimal plastic, minimal toxins, minimal heavy metals; you don’t have to pitch an apple computer like you do others, you can scrap it for materials and get a small sum back for your would-be garbage. Repairing doesn't solve any environmental problems, it only kicks them down the road and creates just as many waste parts that will never be recycled when was the last time you recycled your broken ram responsibly? My bet’s on never
 

Kaibelf

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Of course the environment and changing how individuals and corporations use and abuse it is a very important issue and deserves lots of attention. But the left hand of Apple jumps on every bandwagon as a PR stunt while the right hand is doing things completely opposite. So sad but so typical of what Apple has become under Cook.

Steve Jobs pushed these initiatives a LONG time ago. As I recall, Apple was supporting a LOT of things before they became trendy, so Apple didn't "become" anything different at all.
 
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Rojaaemon

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Weird. Apple Board member Al Gore assured me that the diminished salmon population was caused by "climate change."
 

gnasher729

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Steve Jobs pushed these initiatives a LONG time ago. As I recall, Apple was supporting a LOT of things before they became trendy, so Apple didn't "become" anything different at all.
I remember when Greenpeace rated companies, and HP got a very positive rating because they promised to get rid of led in their computers, and Apple got a very negative rating because they made no such promise. And what Greenpeace had missed that Apple made no promises because they already _had_ removed the stuff.
 

needsomecoffee

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Sadly this is again just PR. Apple is notoriously bad in this regard. Example:

According to their year-long investigation, Apple iPhones and MacBooks aren’t “recycled” in any meaningful sense. Instead, they’re completely destroyed, by Apple’s specific order. The Cupertino-based company handles almost none of its own recycling, instead farming it out to various third parties, and they forbid any reuse or resale of any components. Everything is shredded down to commodity-grade bits of metal, plastic, and glass, with Apple handling just a fraction of their own materials processing.

Link:
https://www.extremetech.com/electro...-materials-refuses-allow-iphone-mac-recycling

Despite this, your position is ill-informed. The best way to minimize impact is to reuse. Recycling is not that efficient (notably for many rare earth elements that cannot really be recovered). The best case is always reuse. Again, Apple could have have provided two paths (one optimized like current iPhones, one optimized for reusability), but chose a single path solely based on shareholder returns - many will posit this their fiduciary responsibility. If so, stop with the facetious PR campaign, and just stop pretending there have not been huge costs imposed by Apple's strategy.

Why is it that there are always only two potential futures for a piece of tech? You seem to think that the only options are to repair or dispose. Have you never considered that apple products are highly recyclable? Minimal plastic, minimal toxins, minimal heavy metals; you don’t have to pitch an apple computer like you do others, you can scrap it for materials and get a small sum back for your would-be garbage. Repairing doesn't solve any environmental problems, it only kicks them down the road and creates just as many waste parts that will never be recycled when was the last time you recycled your broken ram responsibly? My bet’s on never
 

SBlue1

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Of course the environment and changing how individuals and corporations use and abuse it is a very important issue and deserves lots of attention. But the left hand of Apple jumps on every bandwagon as a PR stunt while the right hand is doing things completely opposite. So sad but so typical of what Apple has become under Cook.

Well don't buy Apple products then if you really believe what you just posted.
 

I7guy

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Great PR for the company that lead the industry to only offer disposable devices. The external costs of rare earth mining are starting to hit China and other countries. Yet Apple consumers who want to minimize the impact of their buying decisions have NO OPTION to buy a device who life can be easily extended via parts replacement. Sad legacy, but shareholders have been very happy.
Seems to me Apple is not the leader of the race in companies to only offer disposable devices.
 

Jakewilk

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The best case is always reuse.

Clearly the greenest fate for a piece of tech is to use it until it dies, but repairing is not green, it also creates waste, often of the worst kinds of materials (logic board, battery, display, etc). Some recycling is better than none and even in the case of unrecoverable materials those are at least disposed of properly. Home repairs means more toxic trash, incentivized recycling means responsible disposal
 
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